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The meaning of life


Touch
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Sex
  12% (1)
Food
  12% (1)
Experiance
  50% (4)


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(last vote on : 2/16/2007 3:18:04 PM)
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The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:01:00 PM   
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The meaning of life

I am posing this community with answering the ever-elusive question of the meaning of life. There will be rules to this thread, and I hope you can follow them. I will list the rules later.

With respect to the rainbow of personalities and positions in this community I would like each of you to contemplate the meaning of life and post what you feel the meaning of life is. There are no wrong answers; nevertheless your conviction will be tested.

Your job is to write and define what you feel the meaning of life is and the rest of the community will tear into your post and try to punch holes through it. This community is notoriously argumentative; therefore I am counting on this being a good, perhaps heated, topic. Now I will define the rules:


If you post to another posters idea you must post your own idea of the meaning of life in a follow up post.
No personal attacks.
You must defend each, for lack of a better word, rebuttal to your post.
No links. If you can’t site it in the post it doesn’t count.
Sub/slaves have amnesty from their posts.

As your answers hold their strength I will add them to the poll.

I will begin with my own idea of the meaning of life, which I feel is so simple many will not be able to accept it.
Touch is the meaning of life.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:08:04 PM   
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      (I hope like hell metaphors are allowed here.)

     Touch is momentary and cannot sustain itself.

     Food is the meaning of life.



      (I probably got up way too early to jump into this one.  Hope it runs a while.)

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:11:45 PM   
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Glad you dove in Rich. In defense of Touch I will point out that everyone is here looking for touch in one form or the other. As for food I would say it is a necessity, like air, but not a meaning.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:17:17 PM   
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Food is the meaning of life only if you live to eat instead of eat to live, so I disagree with food being the meaning of life. Food sustains life, it doesn't give meaning to it.

I agree with Rich, touch is fleeting although telling, but sight, hearing, smells and taste are on equal ground with touch .. and yet, they are also fleeting holding only memories of a moment in time where you..

Experienced something..

So, experiencing is the meaning of life. The good experiences create moments of joy and perhaps some learning for growth and progress. The bad ones can also create moments of learning and growth and if you embrace them for what they are, they can help strengthen you. Without experiences, you stagnant. It means you've stopped moving, stopped walking your own path and just stand in place and wait .. to die.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:20:55 PM   
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here here Bita! Experiencing for the human cycle of life is the most important thing be it good/bad or indifferent, the meaning of life is to live.   

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:25:30 PM   
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Could you hypothesis what the fondest “experiences” an invalid would have?

I raised a crippled child and for him, and I suppose me, touch was the most compelling medium. Holding his hand, brushing the hair from his eyes. When I would enter the room the first thing he would want is a hug, taking his face in my hands and kissing his forehead. Out of all the experiences touch is what he sought the most.
Through that experience I am inclined to believe touch is the meaning of life.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:25:59 PM   
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I agree with Celeste, experiencing which to me is learning.

Though I do like the 3 choices offered


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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:48:31 PM   
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      Going from the options list, and reserving the right to get metaphorical, Food is that which sustains us.  It must be obtained or provided, placing responsibility on us. 

    Touch can good, one of the great joys we have, but one can also be touched by hunger.

    Learning?  The first thing a newborn learns is where to find the food.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 3:56:37 PM   
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Rich is food the meaning of your life? I understand sustenance is a necessity, but is your dreams of food; do you seek companionship through food? Do you work to buy a better refrigerator to provide a better environment for your food? Is food what is fulfilling you?
 
I can see where food is the necessity for existence, but what is it that brings meaning to your life?

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:10:02 PM   
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      It's the metaphor I felt best expressed the meaning of life.  Now I certainly enjoy good food but it's not just the eating.  Putting food on the table is a powerful motivation and the measure of independence.  A person who cannot do that is unworthy to call himself free.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:12:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Could you hypothesis what the fondest “experiences” an invalid would have?


Watching the birth of their grandchild .. what an experince that is to watch your child bring another into the world. Or how about the experience of finally understanding something which was lost on your for so long, whether it's 'getting' that math problem you struggled so long to learn or gaining some insight into self that opened up whole new worlds for you.

quote:

I raised a crippled child and for him, and I suppose me, touch was the most compelling medium. Holding his hand, brushing the hair from his eyes. When I would enter the room the first thing he would want is a hug, taking his face in my hands and kissing his forehead. Out of all the experiences touch is what he sought the most.
Through that experience I am inclined to believe touch is the meaning of life.


Then what of the parapheligic who can't experience touch? Does he have no life? Is there no meaning for those whom have suffered a tragedy and can no longer benefit from the touch of another human?

What of the man who was deaf and got an operation to hear .. the first time he heard music or his child's laughter. When we have an experience, especially something which we've never had before, regardless of what that may or may not be, it can change us profoundly in ways we never dreamed.

I counter that even touch is an experience and that you don't have the experiences, you are not living, you are only dying. You said it yourself, touch is a medium, but what is it if not the experiencing a sensation?

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:29:08 PM   
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Very good answer Bita. Nevertheless many of the experiences you used were derived through touch.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:43:55 PM   
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     I was thinking about this in the shower (excellent topic, Wulf) and it dawned on me that if we are going to stick by the original three options, defining them as broadly as possible, you and Bita are arguing for the same thing.  What is 'touch' but the experience of physical contact?  Aren't the experiences that matter the ones that touch us deeply?  You two are on the same side.

     Completely wrong of course, but on the same side.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:52:54 PM   
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Actually Rich I am trying to draw in the masses and see how many different "meanings" there are. I think that with so many different people here, from different perspectives, we will get a broad array of ideas. Remember the rules of the game.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:54:38 PM   
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A good point on touch, and experience being linked, but what of the half of a couple who remains living for thirty years beyond his/her partner? Who perhaps goes through the ins and outs of days alone? Touch is love, but life is thought. We give birth to countless ideas, hopes, fears, facts. Thoughts grow, thoughts die. Thought is the spark that ignites desire.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 4:57:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: goodlittlegirl28

A good point on touch, and experience being linked, but what of the half of a couple who remains living for thirty years beyond his/her partner? Who perhaps goes through the ins and outs of days alone? Touch is love, but life is thought. We give birth to countless ideas, hopes, fears, facts. Thoughts grow, thoughts die. Thought is the spark that ignites desire.


I think the red word said it.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 5:00:21 PM   
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was it the egyptians who used to bury women with their dead men? someone did. so life ceases to exist when one half is gone? that's a lot of dead people walking around in the world.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 5:04:47 PM   
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My SO works in an assisted living. Many widows and widowers are there. The one thing they all have in common is a need for touch. Hugging, holding hands, and torrid affairs between residences. When she makes contact with them, delivering meds, dinner, whatever, they all respond with touch.

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 5:04:54 PM   
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So I am dead because I am a widow ???
Well that explains a lot now

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RE: The meaning of life - 2/1/2007 5:06:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Actually Rich I am trying to draw in the masses and see how many different "meanings" there are. I think that with so many different people here, from different perspectives, we will get a broad array of ideas. Remember the rules of the game.



  Then what the hell am I doing arguing metaphors??? 

   The meaning of life is providing.  For yourself, and those you claim as yours.  To accept that responsibilty is to become whole.


     (And now, I'm off to 'provide' for the continuing shelter of me and mine and then to pay someone else to put food on a table.  G'night, and have fun)

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