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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/1/2007 10:56:26 PM   
BIGBOPPER


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Status: offline 		give us a break. there have been fat people and skinny people and people who whine about both and why and how its all your fault or my fault since the beginning of people. fact is that fat people arent as healthy and they dont move around much during fucking or anything else so you fuckem. and with the superskinnyones when i stick my hot throbbing cock in them i can see it bulging out of their bellies which causes me to shoot off plus they tend to move around a lot to cause this phenomena. each to his own, fatboy.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/1/2007 11:00:55 PM   
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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/1/2007 11:04:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting first post..BigBopper,

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Do any of you know someone with this devastating illness?  And what is being done to help these people get their health back? 


anything to add to the above original questions?.. enquiring minds want to know..

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/1/2007 11:11:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm 5'8 and 145 on a good day. I think I'm too damn skinny, but I can't gain weight no matter what I try. And I love girls that are curvy to a little chubby.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/1/2007 11:30:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is much that we still do not understand about science (medical science to be explicit).

I am a personal trainer and have trained all walks of life in 18+ years.

The latest research is focusing on morbid obesity and it's causes.  It is still a medical mystery.  So is anorexia.  There is no pill you can take.  There is no solution at present for either state.  Thus it deals with the mind.  Both forms must be first dealt with non-traditional means.

Both states should first be de-wormed and rid of all bodily parasites.  There are commercial products on the market for this.

The second step is psychiatric treatment with medication immediately.  As with smoking, nicotene is a hard task-master (D/s-M/s) and food or lack of is a state of mind and an addiction.  People cannot control it any more than they can stop breathing oxygen.  But with the little parasite nasties gone you can make a start of it.

The third step would be blood analysis and run a complete spectrum on any KNOWN diseases they might have.  The worms and parasites would just get wiped out from the start, broad spectrum.  If any DNA markers would be found in the blood analysis, then treatment could begin for that.

CHOLESTEROL IS NOT SOMETHING TREATABLE WITH DRUGS.  LOOK UP RHABDOMYOLYSIS.  DO NOT ACCEPT ANY CHOLESTEROL DRUG (STATIN) FROM YOUR DOCTOR AND STOP TAKING IT IF YOU ALREADY ARE.  See how imprecise medical science is as of late?  I would rather die from Priapism than to have my body cannibalize itself and dump the contents of your muscles into your bloodstream for your liver to deal with.  And if you take anti-depressants there is always the increased risk of suidical thoughts, so go ahead and take your own life once you realize that's what we all do anyway! Inch by inch.

And that is what morbid obesity and anorexia are:  An inability to deal with life.  Plus parasites sucking off you and some genetic or viral indicator that we have not discovered yet.  There should be no judgement on these people from a moral standpoint.  You should treat them as you would someone with down's syndrome:  blame the parents.

The weight of the evidence points to a viral infection that sacrifices the body's metabolism in some way.  Morbid obesity is a great host for feeding organisms.  It is a literal buffet.  If they can make the host fatter they extend their life cycle and can reproduce.  There are cases that have been successfully treated with the right antibiotic, just like the de-worming medication or herbs (usually an Eastern Indian mix.) Anorexia will be shown to be a more agressive parasite or virus that does not have the mind to keep it's host alive (sadly the same is true for the stupid morbid obese virus or parasite.)  Imagine an 85lb woman with a 15lb tapeworm inside them who loves ketones.  Jack Spratt could eat no fat his wife could eat no lean.  The end result is a decreased lifespan which totally and further proves that the influence is from without instead of within.  It is an attack like Iraq where men are dying for the lack of information.  God told the prophets that His people perish for lack of vision.  So it is with all ailments.

Tell anyone you know to de-worm theirself, (like a dog, once a year) pay for some known blood tests, and go to a psychiatrist to deal with the vision of food.  Tell them the best nutrient rich foods to eat and encourage them to get outside and walk, see the birds and the trees, and think about their lives.  It will be over shortly and they should have their matters in order.

That covers anorexia as defined and morbid obesity.  The rest of you are just lazy!

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 12:10:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		obey1.. I don't agree at all. I can't begin to list every point I disagree with..Every addiction can be controlled, every person has the ability to do it..If they feel they need support.. they will find it. You can't blame the parents for everything.. sometimes you have to accept responsibility for yourself and deal with it...

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 12:10:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had Anorexia as a freshman and part of my sophomore year in high school. I am five feet six inches, and my weight dropped from 126 pounds (which is darn near perfect for my height, but at the time, I didn't think so) to 93 pounds in about 7-8 weeks. At the time, Anorexia of course existed, but had not been given a name by the medical community.

When I fainted at a swimming pool that Summer (between freshman and sophomore year), due to lack of eating, my neighbor told my mom I wasn't eating, and she took it a bit more seriously (she'd noticed I was losing weight, but my mom had at one time been a part-time model, and  had never suffered at all from any weight problem, and thought my self-imposed "diet", up to that point, was a great thing). When she realized I weighed 93 pounds, she became concerned, and tried to force me to eat more.

I threw food in the garbage, hid it, all that stuff. I was not hospitalized for it (at the time, there were just no programs of that kind treating eating disorders, that my parents knew of, anyway. I don't think that possibility occurred to them). My mother tried to monitor what I ate, etc. I stopped exercising so much, too.

It took me a year to get up to 115 pounds, but since then (with one brief relapse in my mid-twenties), I never had the problem again. If anything, I always seem to be concerned about losing 5 pounds, but try not to become obessesive about it.

-Susan 

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 12:22:15 AM   
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You should treat them as you would someone with down's syndrome:  blame the parents.



Blame the parents for Downs Syndrome?  Can you explain this further please? 
 
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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 12:48:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: adaddysgirl

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You should treat them as you would someone with down's syndrome:  blame the parents.



Blame the parents for Downs Syndrome?  Can you explain this further please? 
 
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I am not sure I want to know.........  

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 12:54:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		On the show they had a doctor that worked for a clinic that treated anorexic people.  They offered this one lady a free hospitalization and treatment to help her get better, which I thought was quite generous.  It could quite possibly save the woman's life.

Evidently these clinics exist obviously.  I have never heard of one, but has anyone considered, or actually made use of, one of these clinics?  I got the impression that it was like a shrink ward for mentally ill patients, but far more targetted to a specific group of people.  Another analogy would be a detox center.  Are there many in the USA?  And are there any in Canada?  It strikes me that if people know of these clinics, they should be making the push to getting their loved ones into these clinics.

And, further, modelling agencies should be forbidden to contract work for any man or woman that looks like they are suffering from this ailment.  It should be against the Law.  They are encouraging people to kill themselves for that next photo shoot.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 1:09:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some of the models that walk down the  catwalk are so atypical and to my eye unattractive I simply cannot see how others can be influenced to be like them.

That however is the problem, many many people especially adolescents of ALL ages, cannot disentangle themselves from images and attitudes thrown at them to the point of saturation by the modern media and hence become anxious and uncertain when, as they see it, they do not conform

So I think we are not dealing with an illness but with the power of propaganda on immature minds.
Unless of course you classify immaturaty as an illness !

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 1:11:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not so sure.  My aunt is in her 50's.  I somehow doubt that runway models or fashion magazines are much of an influence on her.  She is a staunch Christian to boot.  Hmmm.  I dunno.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 1:18:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: obey1
And that is what morbid obesity and anorexia are:  An inability to deal with life. You should treat them as you would someone with down's syndrome:  blame the parents.
I do not agree with the above statements, but otherwise obey1 makes a lot of sense. I will look up his reference to statins.
 
There are indeed such clinics, SirKenin. We have one in The Netherlands. It is my impression that it is a place of despair. They may bring some order into deteriorated lives and fatten up some patients, but it does not cure the disease. I imagine that their fate in such clinics is much like that of patients of tuberculosis, diabetes, malaria and such diseases in the clinics of their time before cures were discovered for those diseases.
 

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 3:14:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		on the subject of Tyra... since retiring from modelling.. she has went from 136 pounds she has gained weight to 161... recent pictures were taken of her and implied she was fat or "letting herself go" for someone of her height (5 ft 10 inches) 161 still falls within the acceptable guidelines of a healthy weight.... but the modelling industry and hollywood have become so obsessed with those who are uber thin (paris hilton, nicole richie etc) that when someone gains a few pounds it becomes a cardinal sin... i read so many negative things about the actress America Ferrara (Ugly Betty) who is all of a size 12... and how she is so fat, or what a tragedy it is when a star such as Rene Zelleweger or Kate Winslet has to put on weight for a movie role....

There was a time not too long ago when the "rounder" someone was signified their social status to the community... the heavier you were the wealthier you were.... in a world obsessed with youth and living forever... that seems to be all there is anymore.

So many are obsessed with not dying they forget to actually LIVE.... i would rather live each day as my last... indulge in whatever i desired... rather than concern myself with living to be 112. There are no guarantees of tomorrow.... so why live for tomorrow and forget about today when tomorrow may never come? And do i really want to be 112, incontinent, sitting around in a wheel chair having to have someone else take care of me because i am so old i cant even perform normal everyday functions.

The simple fact of the matter is.... some people... both men and women... are skinny.... and some are rounder... and some are more muscular.... and we should all respect their right to be happy in which ever form that may be.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 4:28:27 AM   
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Is that a CRF you are standing next to?


Lol, not Diane but if i am not mistaken that is a Honda 450 R, which is a CRF.

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 4:48:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sir Kenin: Age doesn't matter - I've done some reading on this disease, and it is life-long as far as the risk of eventual relapse (supposedly. Although I know I currently have to watch myself, or I run the risk of putting on weight, not getting too thin. I am not a "naturally lean" person (with a particularly high metabolism, say)- I have a sister who is, and my mother was, but I am not). 

But - there were a few times since high school, when I dove in and started losing weight again and going over-board on the exercise - I think juliaoceania was onto something when she said it was because this (losing weight to an extreme) gave her a sense of control over her life (when perhaps major parts of it were outside of her control, or felt that way). Because when I look back, those times were majorly stressed periods in my life.

The other thing is - I've read that people with this disease have such self-esteem issues, they literally believe they don't deserve to eat - that eating less makes them a "better person" somehow - and they do receive therapy for that at clinics in the U.S. I know there are at least a few clinics that specilaize in treating this disease (and Bulimia, another eating disorder) in the U.S. They are expensive - but if your alternative is probable death, I am sure they are worth the cost.

I think the modelling industry may be partly to blame (especially as it affects the younger girls) But- there are other issues at play as well - and some are very individual.

- Susan 

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 8:35:26 AM   
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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 8:58:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is this topic just geared towards women. What about men?

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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 9:44:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have known quite a few people with eating disorders of both extremes. It's a tough problem either way. Several just seemed to get in a better place in life that it became less of a focus. Several still struggle.

My former person of affection is a runway model. At 5'10" she was always expected to stay under 115# by her agency. After a vacation she panicked when she weighed in at 117#. I have known her to get down to 107"(if I remember correctly) The designers loved her. It's not good nor healthy.


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RE: Skinny chicks - 2/2/2007 10:12:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		actualy anorexia  is takeing hold in young men as well as women,  my youngest brother  has periods of time where he wont eat for three or four days  at one point he droped from 180  at 5'11   to 124.    it seems that  eating disorders run in my family  my sister  has periods where she wont eat followed by binge eating   she doesnt pruge  ( least this is what she tells me)   and for myself I am an obsessive over eater.      

oh!  and they pick those super skinny moddles cause the cloths hang off them  and look like they would on a coat hanger ;)  



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