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ServenteMail -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/11/2007 11:11:25 PM)
LadyEllen, It is amusing that what I was trained to be by not only my vanilla relationships but by my last owners, to have no feelings or desires and only reinforce Their strength as superior to me because they possessed an even greater ability to be emotionless seems to create an emotion from those here. Compassion for Her property, caring etc. If I dare slipped and showed fear, happiness, or sadness at the death of my son or any emotion or hesitation I would be immediately punished both physically and mentally. That is what Domme’s do. That is what this lifestyle is for. That is what makes Domme’s superior and slave’s better. I am still weak and will admit in the animosity of a forum as this that the desire to be able to have emotion does come to my thoughts occasionally. I only know what I was taught by my owners. This profile, yes is new. I am not though. Lashra’s property is NOT a human being. He is a slave like I was for many years.

thetammyjo -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/12/2007 6:51:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ServenteMail LadyEllen, It is amusing that what I was trained to be by not only my vanilla relationships but by my last owners, to have no feelings or desires and only reinforce Their strength as superior to me because they possessed an even greater ability to be emotionless seems to create an emotion from those here. Compassion for Her property, caring etc. If I dare slipped and showed fear, happiness, or sadness at the death of my son or any emotion or hesitation I would be immediately punished both physically and mentally. That is what Domme’s do. That is what this lifestyle is for. That is what makes Domme’s superior and slave’s better. I am still weak and will admit in the animosity of a forum as this that the desire to be able to have emotion does come to my thoughts occasionally. I only know what I was taught by my owners. This profile, yes is new. I am not though. Lashra’s property is NOT a human being. He is a slave like I was for many years. Wow. This post made me feel sad. Even in the most strict slave societies there was no doubt that slaves were also human beings -- how much and in what specific ways was debateable but they were never considered 100% non-human.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/12/2007 8:47:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ServenteMail LadyEllen, It is amusing that what I was trained to be by not only my vanilla relationships but by my last owners, to have no feelings or desires and only reinforce Their strength as superior to me because they possessed an even greater ability to be emotionless seems to create an emotion from those here. Compassion for Her property, caring etc. If I dare slipped and showed fear, happiness, or sadness at the death of my son or any emotion or hesitation I would be immediately punished both physically and mentally. That is what Domme’s do. That is what this lifestyle is for. That is what makes Domme’s superior and slave’s better. I am still weak and will admit in the animosity of a forum as this that the desire to be able to have emotion does come to my thoughts occasionally. I only know what I was taught by my owners. This profile, yes is new. I am not though. Lashra’s property is NOT a human being. He is a slave like I was for many years. Say Brother..... I did you a big favor.... I set ya up for an appointment next Tuesday with this Doctor who works outa Bellevue. She specializes in out-patient care for folks who've been released from the facility.... but don't worry....I gotcha in. If ya have any problems, call this number (212) 562-4678 and ask for Nurse Ratched. Good luck - R

nephandi -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/12/2007 9:58:48 AM)
i am depressed, and my Master is ok whit this, he will not leve me even if there are days where he must tend to me as i hardly have the energy to get out of bed. Lashra i hope your sub get a speedy recovery, and i hope the best for you and yours. quote: LadyEllen, It is amusing that what I was trained to be by not only my vanilla relationships but by my last owners, to have no feelings or desires and only reinforce Their strength as superior to me because they possessed an even greater ability to be emotionless seems to create an emotion from those here. Compassion for Her property, caring etc. If I dare slipped and showed fear, happiness, or sadness at the death of my son or any emotion or hesitation I would be immediately punished both physically and mentally. That is what Domme’s do. That is what this lifestyle is for. That is what makes Domme’s superior and slave’s better. I am still weak and will admit in the animosity of a forum as this that the desire to be able to have emotion does come to my thoughts occasionally. I only know what I was taught by my owners. This profile, yes is new. I am not though. Lashra’s property is NOT a human being. He is a slave like I was for many years. Oh dear. i would ahve run hard and fast from such treatment. i am a slave, and a human being, and while humiliation and objectifation is a thing whit Master, he never let me forget i am loved. And as human being, we desere care, and love and to show emotion. i am not a robot, i am just somone that work better when somone else controls my life.

bludemonn -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/12/2007 11:50:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ServenteMail LadyEllen, It is amusing that what I was trained to be by not only my vanilla relationships but by my last owners, to have no feelings or desires and only reinforce Their strength as superior to me because they possessed an even greater ability to be emotionless seems to create an emotion from those here. Compassion for Her property, caring etc. If I dare slipped and showed fear, happiness, or sadness at the death of my son or any emotion or hesitation I would be immediately punished both physically and mentally. That is what Domme’s do. That is what this lifestyle is for. That is what makes Domme’s superior and slave’s better. I am still weak and will admit in the animosity of a forum as this that the desire to be able to have emotion does come to my thoughts occasionally. I only know what I was taught by my owners. This profile, yes is new. I am not though. Lashra’s property is NOT a human being. He is a slave like I was for many years. Can i just say something? Please dont say stuff like 'that is what dommes do' NO IT ISNT! it's what YOUR Owner did, everyoone knows there is no guide book for BDSM, there is no etiquette set in stone, the 'in session' area of your relationship with Mistress/Master is very distinct from your private/personal life and just because you decided on a 24/lifestyle to which you seem to have surrendered all choices in your life that my friend is YOUR decision, quite alot of Dommes and Masters would never ever wish to have that burden as to expect 100% coldness toward another person, this is not lifetsyle but definately a form of mental illness. Most of us who have deep desires would always say we wanted owning all the time but as you have found out this will have an adverse effect on both particpants. True some subs need to have their Domme/Owner as a life mentor to assist with decisions and so the lifetsyle is very suitable to cater for power and weakness surges in both Domme and Sub but to simply cross the line where you are being mentally bullied by a person who isn't 'Domme' but a bully in Dommes cloths does not mean across the board that 'Dommes do that'! They Dont! I think YOU need to re-evaluate your experiences before you blanket everyone elses!

DommeChains -> RE: Fearful and Depressed Sub (2/12/2007 8:24:20 PM)
I totally understand your concern for your sub and your frustration as to what to do. I think you have received, amidst all the less-than-helpful rants, some good, workable tips. I would like to add something that I hope helps in a concrete way. I have the idea that your sub is not really sure of where to turn for help with his parents and probably feels he is drowning in trying to meet their needs. A suggestion I would make is, with his consent and the consent of his mother, get a referral from her physician for hospice care and also ask the family physician for a home health assessment for his father. Having professional medical and nursing support might go a long way to relieving some of his burden regarding his family. Most home health agencies also have the services of a medical social worker who might be able to find financial aid or resources for paying medical expenses for his parents. I hope this proves helpful. I nursed both of my parents through their terminal illnesses and it is a time of extreme strain on a caregiver. It is is easy to get tunnel vision and feel overwhelmed and even guilty at having any fun or play for one's self. This is a perfect formula for depression and alienating important people in one's life. I will offer this last bit for you alone. It is possible to get through this time and come out the other side a stronger couple. You have taken the all important first step and sought out help. I wish you both the best.

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