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Saline in the Scrotim - 5/14/2004 6:21:35 PM   
sexygentleman


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Status: offline 		I have recently met a Mistress and one of her likes is to inject
Saline solution into the scrotum, although she has never done
this before. Is this safe, are there special precautions to be taken
is there a way to get the saline out of the bll sac other than through
the body absoring it ?

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/14/2004 7:46:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well if she has never done this before, I would say it wouldn't be safe to be the guineapig.

I have had a nurse tell me it was safe, but I wouldn't do it without proper training.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/14/2004 8:36:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is another thread on this under "fetish gear and apparel" that might be helpful. Welcome to the message boards sexygentleman.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/15/2004 8:34:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexygentleman

I have recently met a Mistress and one of her likes is to inject
Saline solution into the scrotum, although she has never done
this before. Is this safe, are there special precautions to be taken
is there a way to get the saline out of the bll sac other than through
the body absoring it ?



I have to echo Marissa on this one. It can be done safely but it's not something that should be attempted without proper training as there are a LOT of things that could go wrong. Very wrong. A sterile field is much more difficult to create and maintain than most people realize. Simply reaching your arm over a sterile field can contaminate it. Contaminated sterile fields can cause infections. Infections in the scrotum are a nasty piece of work that often require hospitalization for IV antibiotic therapy and very often leave permanent scar tissue. That scar tissue can cause long term problems.

I know someone who got epididymitis at a pro house doing this play. Someone had refilled a saline bag with tap water and didn't let the other dominas know she'd done it. Subsequently this bag was used by an unsuspecting domina who I'm told has great skill with this. My friend spent two weeks in the hospital and years later still has a mass of scar tissue in his scrotum that is significantly larger than his testicle. He was told that he was fortunate that he did not lose that testicle.

To my knowledge waiting for it to be absorbed by the body is the best way, but I suppose it would be possible to draw it out with a syringe. I don't think drawing it out would be as safe as letting the body take care of it.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/15/2004 10:51:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Id have to echo Marissa and Suz on this one. A lot can go wrong. Easily enough done. I've seen people do this demo many times in the past. It is not one of my fetishes.

I just have to ask, how can she like it if she has never tried it?

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/15/2004 11:34:34 AM   
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I just have to ask, how can she like it if she has never tried it?


Sorry, Gloria, I just got to answer. How did you and MizSuz learn you liked fire play before you tried it? Same thing I would guess.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/15/2004 11:56:08 AM   
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and just rolls My eyes...
jezzzz cant You super users
be just a tad more helpful
to the newbies?? Heres the
link to the other scrotal info
sexiegentlemen ~click below~

http://www.collarme.com/forum/m_7481/mpage_1/key_//tm.htm#8125

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/19/2004 7:45:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Saline infusion is perfectly safe as long as you use the correct saline. It MUST be injectable saline. It MUST be able to be absorbed by the body. It CANNOT be bought without a prescription. YOu MUST get it from a doctor, medical supply with a script, or someone with a connection.

That being said. Saline infusions are one of my favortite past-times!

Make sure the saline is warmed. Cold saline injected just hurts. Use a 22 or 20 gauge needle and appoximately 10 cc of saline at a time. You will be surprised how much fluid you can take. The needle should only pierce the very upper layer. Fill til your hearts desire. You really cant do any damage. Like I said it will all absorb into the body eventually. Some fluid will leak out the injection site but will stop with direct pressure.

It is possible to get your scrotum, or you ladies, your labias, to the sizes of grapefruits! and they feel so neat to touch. LOL....but try walking!

Have fun!

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/19/2004 11:29:13 AM   
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It is possible to get your scrotum, or you ladies, your labias, to the sizes of grapefruits! and they feel so neat to touch. LOL....but try walking!


Wow this is new to me, have any women here tried it?

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/20/2004 8:17:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Monts
It CANNOT be bought without a prescription. YOu MUST get it from a doctor, medical supply with a script, or someone with a connection.


From a legal standpoint, I believe that in most states it is also illegal for an untrained person to inject anyone unless they are a certified in the medicial field.

Same goes for cathaders, etc. Find out what your state's laws are before you do this casually.

Also use common sense when deciding who to allow to do what to your body.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/20/2004 8:30:46 PM   
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From a legal standpoint, I believe that in most states it is also illegal for an untrained person to inject anyone unless they are a certified in the medicial field.

Same goes for cathaders, etc. Find out what your state's laws are before you do this casually.

Also use common sense when deciding who to allow to do what to your body.

~ShadeDiva


I believe a lot of what WE do is illegal in MOST states. Thats what mentors are for.

Monts <----- who loves those cathaders too

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/20/2004 11:06:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Point being you'd be facing practicing medicine without a license as well as the normal bs we'd have slung at us. If it was across states, as in the person lived in another state and was visiting, that might be even more of an issue.

If you are going to do something that's cool, but at least do it fully informed of what the consequences might be.

Someone might be willing to face a judge and jury for spanking or flogging someone but would have a huge issue with facing the charge of practicing medicine without a license and having a few organizations and a plethra of charges hurled at them.

Just going well everything illegal isn't really wise, after all, some illegal things are a lot worse than others.

I'd also mention mentors are NO substitute for a lawyer - unless they ARE one, and actually KNOW the law in regards to that.

Just because someone's done it a bunch of times so that someone thinks they are mentor quality doesn't mean they are fully informed as to what the consequences could be.

I know tons of "mentor" types that don't have a freaking clue outside what they are mentoring about, and have NO concept of the law in regard to what they feel they are capable of mentoring.

<shrug>
To me, it's just another case, IMO, of when folks want to take the easy way out and ride the herd mentality ... everyone else does it ... so and so says its okay ... etc.

Doesn't alleviate one from the responsiblity of making the choice to be informed and making sure they are, or choosing to blindly follow someone they consider knowledgeable - saying my mentor said this was cool will NOT help in a court of law if something goes wrong.

Guys get pissy about their jewels if something they didn't sign up for goes wrong and affects them in a negative way for some odd reason.

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< Message edited by ShadeDiva -- 5/20/2004 11:07:50 PM >

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/20/2004 11:28:14 PM   
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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/20/2004 11:39:17 PM   
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I was being facetious.

lolol

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/21/2004 2:14:59 AM   
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Also use common sense when deciding who to allow to do what to your body.
- Shade Diva

Some people will claim that "protocol" prevents a slave from having this common sense.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/21/2004 5:59:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Im not trying to throw stones here. I dont get involved in flame wars on the boards either. I was stating my opinion on my take of it. I do it. Have for many years. Was taught by a nurse. A very twisted nurse. But none-the-less, there are people out there, like me, that can do these things because of proper mentoring. Its a long lost concept I agree. With the age of InstaDomme/Doms and such you DO need to be careful. And I recommend highly that you DO know who you are doing these procedures with. But they are done all the time, and by people that can do them correctly. There are many folks that get involved with temp piercings, and cuttings and all kinds of blood sports. <yum> There are others that play with fire. <yum again>.

I happen to be a hard core edge player. I have 17 years experience and many years of it being taught all the way. I have never tried anything that I considered a danger to another, without proper training. I hope that is true for all.

I apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers
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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/22/2004 8:15:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu
Some people will claim that "protocol" prevents a slave from having this common sense.


So?

It still applies.

Just the common sense would be applied when choosing a good dominant for themselves, so that they are compatible and see things the same way.

I don't buy into the slave being someone so mindless that they do not have a say who they decide to allow enslave them. Just too much a victim mentality for me to support, I guess.

If they chose wisely from the get go, they are golden, if they chose unwisely - I hope to hell they get out, and get out reasonably whole and undamaged, and hopefully alive.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/22/2004 8:29:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Monts

Im not trying to throw stones here. I dont get involved in flame wars on the boards either. I was stating my opinion on my take of it. I do it. Have for many years. Was taught by a nurse. A very twisted nurse. But none-the-less, there are people out there, like me, that can do these things because of proper mentoring. Its a long lost concept I agree. With the age of InstaDomme/Doms and such you DO need to be careful. And I recommend highly that you DO know who you are doing these procedures with. But they are done all the time, and by people that can do them correctly. There are many folks that get involved with temp piercings, and cuttings and all kinds of blood sports. <yum> There are others that play with fire. <yum again>.

I happen to be a hard core edge player. I have 17 years experience and many years of it being taught all the way. I have never tried anything that I considered a danger to another, without proper training. I hope that is true for all.

I apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers
Monts


Really my points/posts have nothing to do with you or you throwing stones at all and really have nothng to do with you personally on any level or how you play really.

My point is, this is a highly litigious society. IMO, you not only need to consider and be informed about what you are doing, but also what the consequences are if you get arrested or sued.

The fact is, that unless you know the consequences of what you are doing - you truly are incapable of making a fully informed decision, end of story.

You can choose to not be informed, or not view it as important, but that's not making an fully informed decision - basically all I was saying was BE informed, or at least realize you are actively CHOOSING to remain uninformed. (the you being a figurative *you* of course)

That being said, I've seen as edgy and hardcore play as you can get I think and still be on this side of crazy, lol. In my location EVERYONE is a a heavy hardcore edgeplayer of decades it seems like, and most of them seem to have some medical training, most bizarre, but oh so true, lol. (GOD I LOVE this state when it comes to BDSM communities!)

I wasn't saying don't do it, I was saying be informed what the risks and consequences are, thus why I started out by saying *from a legal standpoint* and at no time stated *don't do that*.

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/22/2004 8:50:32 AM   
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I hope to hell they get out, and get out reasonably whole and undamaged, and hopefully alive.

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Unless your definintion of reasonably whole includes naked on a roadside, I guess you don't go for "protocol".

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RE: Saline in the Scrotim - 5/22/2004 9:10:33 AM   
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Unless your definintion of reasonably whole includes naked on a roadside, I guess you don't go for "protocol".



Eh .. it can have it's purposes, protocol that is.

What that *whole* comment meant was get without losing a limb, or functioning part of their body.

I *do* know some ladies, and I know others that know of others as well, that the ONLY way they could *get out* was to go through a *gangbang beating*.

Basically they would be allowed to leave their slavery if they lived through a beating given by anywhere from 4-12 people, and the beating could last a long time. The longest one I know of to date from someone that doesn't fuck around making that kind of thing up (and besides if you saw the look on his face - you'd know it was something he had first hand knowledge of), was 3 days. He was livid, she refused to press charges or go to the police, she was half dead when they finished, and yeah some things don't work quite *right*.

Basically they get beaten by anything handy that *seems like fun*, crowbars (NASTY marks those make - UGH!), chairs, hangers, I know one that also had to do acts of beastiality, hot irons, things placed in areas that should never go there, pretty much the sky is the limits with those types. <shakes head>

Humans can be very ugly creatures. It seems in this life, I have some sort of reason to witness a lot of nasty human nature, cuz I've sure seen more than my share in this very short life.

So yeah, when I hear of "slave with NO choice" I think of the dozens out there that barely made it our alive, and I'm sure it biases me.

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