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cjenny -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 9:28:51 AM)

I didn't mean to be critical, I was just/am confused over the fact  that it seems tailored for a slave not a submissive.
OP I apologise if I appeared to be against your post, I am not.



missturbation -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 9:32:13 AM)

Still i thought most of us had got past criticising how others choose to live.
For example the use of the word girl - some choose to use it.
It doesnt make his work any less valid or more valid for using the word.
 
someone needs to get his head out of the clouds and come back to reality.
Maybe that is his reality. It doesnt have to be yours but it is his choice to make as to how he lives.
it's doms like you who use "girl" when messaging me don't receive a reply back and get blocked.
Again your choice but isnt the 'doms like you' maybe a little harsh? You know nothing of him other than he has chosen to use the words 'this girl' and for that alone? he has become someone you would wish to block?



KatyLied -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 9:40:43 AM)

quote:

For example the use of the word girl - some choose to use it.
It doesnt make his work any less valid or more valid for using the word.


Actually the word "girl" makes it less valid and more giggly to some of us.  If he wants to use it fine, and if we want to chuckle, that's fine too.



missturbation -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 9:43:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

For example the use of the word girl - some choose to use it.
It doesnt make his work any less valid or more valid for using the word.


Actually the word "girl" makes it less valid and more giggly to some of us.  If he wants to use it fine, and if we want to chuckle, that's fine too.



As i said each to their own but im pretty sure you wouldnt appreciate others de validating your work for your choice of lifestyle.

Edited to add i saw no humour in any of the criticisms made - if it was there - my bad. *shrugs*



toservez -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 9:54:51 AM)

I am stunned I found this simple thread to be an incredible study in human behavior.

The OP with no explanation to put their post in context as some casual writing or serious mantra but how everyone is making assumptions, including me, and then judging others on these assumptions.

This could be little more then a fluff fiction by the person and not meant to be taken literally or it could be someone’s mantra who truly believes every single word literally. None of us know, and to judge another person’s opinion on it based on your assumption is the right assumption is really fascinating.




newly42 -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 10:05:05 AM)

why the criticism?
Maybe it´s a fantasy, but it is what he wants for himself.   I would love to trust enough someone and feel that way myself.  I hope the One i have found is the Master i was looking for.

By the way, nice work with the ABC.  Not easy to get the right words and to make the phrase has sense.



michaels4evr -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 11:52:36 AM)

I enjoyed the list..despite the everyday challenges of living..this girl does ZIP through life knowing that at last someone loves me unconditionally...it was a long road. Thank You for shariing. 



slavejali -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 12:10:20 PM)

This is how my birthday card started...I can remember the first two lines...

Just be yourself
Always smile



BitaTruble -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 12:39:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Taken for what it is, a piece of creative literature it's great.
 
Hate to think how critical some of the posters here are of other fictional writing.


I've written a bit myself through the years and I am, generally, much more critical of my own work than anyone elses. It wasn't the writing or style which I was speaking about though, it was the content which smacks to me of 'this way and no other'. That's my impression and I don't apologize for it. I also read the OP's profile before I posted and he has a statement which reads "Perfection is the Submissive". That's why I view this as fantasy. That's a lot of pressure to put on someone else.

Personally, I didn't read the OP as a piece of creative literature but if I had I would not charaterize the piece as 'great' as I think that devalues the truly 'great' literature that is available to the masses. That, however, is subjective and everyone has different taste. My taste for fiction runs towards the classics, my taste for non-fiction runs towards the realistic and/or historic and I don't find this OP to be satisfying to either one of those taste buds.

I appreciate that others got something from it, but for those of us who didn't, the purpose of the forums is to offer up opinions, right? Not everyone is going to agree on everything, so for one to be surprised at critique rather surprises me as a poster. What is put out there is opening ones writing to all sorts of responses, good, bad and indifferent.. that's the nature of forums. I don't believe my response was mean or nasty, but it was honest and my own impression and that's all I can give in this medium.

Assumptions: The assumption which I made was that the OP wanted the piece read and he wanted feedback to what he wrote, otherwise he would have put it in his journal rather than present it in an open forum. It is what it is and I read it as colored by my own world view and perceptions. What else can I do?

Celeste




mymasterssub69 -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 1:14:02 PM)

question - how would you like if someone called you a "N" or whatever racial slur in a message to you? i suppose you wouldn't like it one bit. i don't appreciate doms who in their initial message feel it'[s ok by addressimg me as "girl".  for one, only one person calls me "girl" and that's Daddy and two, i'm not required to snap at attention and give respect to strange dom because he feels it's appropriate to address me as "girl".  nor am i required to give him respect because he's a dom.

i refuse to apologize for being so harsh and blunt towards the OP. i stand by opinions - his head was in the clouds if he feels everyone should abide by what he posted. not every D/s relationship based the same way.  i know mine isn't with Daddy. kudos to him for stating that choice and kudos to me for having my own pov.



valeca -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 1:53:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Taken for what it is, a piece of creative literature it's great.
 
Hate to think how critical some of the posters here are of other fictional writing.


As an editor, I do tend to look critically at all works of fiction.  It's the nature of the beast.  We're harsh.  We have to be.

As for the OP, there wasn't any literary merit to the piece (editor speaking--it was rather juvenile in its word usage), but that doesn't mean it didn't resonate with some people.

Emotionally speaking, it didn't touch me, but I'm happy that it works for some.



LotusSong -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 4:52:49 PM)

Who is a "this girl"and does she know you are talking about her?  :)
 
(I would have enjoyed this post more if it hadn't been written in "Tonto-speak")



KnightofMists -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 5:39:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: slscsi

This girl ACCEPTS Your collar making You her Master

This girl BELIEVES in You,

This girl COMES to You of her own free will

This girl DEDICATES her life to serve You always and in all ways

This girl EMBRACES all that You will teach her

This girl FOLLOWS all rules set for her

This girl GIVES to You her heart, mind, body and soul

This girl HOLDS You in her heart and mind at all times

This girl IDENTIFIES herself as Your slave and only Yours

This girl JOYFULLY obeys her Master at all times

This girl KNOWS the truth and that she is Yours

This girl LOVES her Master with all her heart

This girl MOTIVATES thru her Master’s Will

This girl NOURISHES her soul through her Master

This girl OBEYS every order her Master gives her

This girl PROMISES she will always make Him proud of her

This girl QUIETLY awaits her Master’s orders

This girl RESPECTFULLY accepts all actions her Master gives and does

This girl SURRENDERS herself to her Master

This girl TRUSTS her Master with her whole heart

This girl UNDERSTANDS the repercussions of her actions

This girl VALUES her Master’s life

This girl WANTS to always WEAR his collar proudly and always please her Master

This girl X ’s her name off the available list as she is now owned

This girl YEARNS to belong to him forever

This girl ZIPS thru life knowing her Master loves her and owns her totally



The list for dominants is thankfully much shorter.

This guy CAPITALIZES all the letters in the third word of every sentence.



YEAH... and you know what??


He knows the alphabet as well.



SimplyMichael -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 5:49:46 PM)

Oh come on guys, this is sarcasm, nobody would actually believe this crap, the guy must simply be making fun of online submission.  Its so over the top nuts I can't believe any of you fell for it.



KeirasSecret -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 6:31:35 PM)

 I've  tried really hard not to say anything more then what I already have, but I've got to say thank you.

Usually I'm a very, live and let live, kind of person. If it were a sub or slave; hey, happy for ya; but there was something about this that just didn't feel right to me.

Be well,




KnightofMists -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 6:37:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Oh come on guys, this is sarcasm, nobody would actually believe this crap, the guy must simply be making fun of online submission.  Its so over the top nuts I can't believe any of you fell for it.


Oh it is indeed over the top.. unfortunately... I don't think some people see it as over the top.  funny how that works.



juliaoceania -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/4/2007 7:51:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I will never refer to myself as "this girl", that sounds more like slavery than submission.


Not that I have a problem with how people want to speak, but I know my Daddy would hate it if I spoke that way. He is a stickler for proper diction when speaking... I really think it would drive him crazy (mischieviously considers doing it the next time he calls[sm=trident.gif][sm=biggrin.gif], but I do not think it would be worth no orgasms for a month.. he he)



MasterFireMaam -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/5/2007 8:14:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

If only it were really that simple.

Celeste


Sometimes, it is. Just let go.

Master Fire



littleone35 -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/5/2007 2:34:37 PM)

I thought it was an interesting post.  Thr op does indeed know his letters.  I agree withj some of what he says others are pure fanasty.  I am a submissive not a slave.  I know my Master owns me totally but i only wish i could "Zip" through life.  I think my zip got zapped  lol.

Matt's littleone





swtnsparkling -> RE: ABCs of being a submissive (2/5/2007 3:12:00 PM)

quote:

question - how would you like if someone called you a "N" or whatever racial slur in a message to you? i suppose you wouldn't like it one bit. i don't appreciate doms who in their initial message feel it'[s ok by addressimg me as "girl".  for one, only one person calls me "girl" and that's Daddy and two, i'm not required to snap at attention and give respect to strange dom because he feels it's appropriate to address me as "girl".  nor am i required to give him respect because he's a dom.

i refuse to apologize for being so harsh and blunt towards the OP. i stand by opinions - his head was in the clouds if he feels everyone should abide by what he posted. not every D/s relationship based the same way.  i know mine isn't with Daddy. kudos to him for stating that choice and kudos to me for having my own pov.

Can I just ask............what did I miss?  why a response like that?
I saw nowhere the OP insult or criticize anyone.
All this was- was a fluffy personal "use the ABC's about submission"post - sharing it. Nothing more
I thought it was cute- I didnt get offended



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