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slave2Bruce -> Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:04:02 AM)

i made this joke in a chat room, and have really been thinking about it since. 

Do You ever give Your slave sick days?  If they live with You, what kind of slack (if any) do you cut them if they are sick or injured?  i'm assuming it is dependent on how sick/injured they are too, so lets assume they aren't deathly ill and can still move around, even if it's at a slower pace. 

i was recently collared by my Husband and have had a couple of days where i was sick.  Also, even before i was collared i had certain duties that were my responsibility, and a broken tailbone affected not my ability to do them but how difficult it was to get myself to do them, just because i felt so crappy.  Even with His approval to skip duties or ask for His help, i felt guilty & like i was letting Him down.

i'd appreciate to hear other's experiences, since W/we are working on O/our contract and would like to incorporate that into it.




bandit25 -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:17:36 AM)

Slave doesn't mean inhuman, does it?  This is something I just don't get...course I'm not a slave either.  If you are sick or hurt or whatever to the point where you cannot do whatever it is your Master/Dominant wants you to do and He says not to worry about it, why feel guilty?  I mean, as long as you really can't do something, why on earth feel guilty?  If he says you aren't letting him down, then you aren't.




KatyLied -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:19:34 AM)

Unless you are a machination, you may need some sick days.  Sort of kills the slavery fantasy, doesn't it?  Oops, even machines some times require down time and maintenance.




slavejali -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:37:25 AM)

Fast Reply:

When I have been ill, Master has made me soup. When I've been exhausted he has helped with the housework. When those things happen, I don't feel guilty becaue those situations are real and I just wouldn't have the energy to feel guilty..the feeling I would feel more is..appreciation.




BabyNyla -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:48:07 AM)

i had mono last year and was bedridden for about 2 months and during that time he did the cleaning and when he got hungry he ate canned spaghetti o's.  This is the first and only time I have ever seen my hubby clean, but I was so happy he was willing to do it.  But yeah, it made me feel guilty, so I often tried to get up and help and he tied me to the bed so I couldn't.  :\




LadyHugs -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 11:56:35 AM)

Dear slave2Bruce, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
As for my personal experiences and my personal form/style of M/s relationships; when a slave is sick--they are sick and I will attend them until they are well and up to their passing.  They are humans like me.  When they are better, they can resume their service.  My slaves serve me from their sick bed by healing/getting better.
 
It is natural to feel guilty as a slave but, that guilt is a form of control; to which plays in your mind--that nothing can be done right/correctly if you do not do it yourself.
 
It is wise, in my opinion to negotiate into a relationship that is forming, what happens if either one of you is injured in a auto wreck or other manifestations which causes you to be unable to serve and or be served in the most ideal of circumstances.  We naturally see only the positive sides of relationships but, never can prepare enough for death, illnesses and injuries.
 
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




MagiksSlave -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 12:03:32 PM)

There are times where I sometimes cant do things even if it is because emotionaly I dont feel good, like last night I had somethings I had to do for Master I was suposed to go to his place help him with things and then we had scene time planed but I wasnt in a good place emotionaly to take care of things and I simply told him that and it was ok. While I did feel bad I didnt get to see him I didnt feel guilty about no beeing up to it.

Magik's slave




mymasterssub69 -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 12:24:02 PM)

i hope everyone here is human and not some mechanical bot

there are days when Daddy knows i'm up for a long visit with Him because i was too exhausted after either touring with and/or reviewing bands 3-4 days straight or caring for my oldest due to illness from her traumatic accident.  likewise i know there will be days when Daddy will feel exhausted from long office hours with patients and other obligations like today - He's home with the stomach flu bug.




Bignipplessub -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 12:33:31 PM)

[:D]To avoid this type of confusion with your Dom, when you first meet and he ask you about chores, tell them I have a person to clean my house who I pay every week, you should do the same.




MagiksSlave -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 12:38:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bignipplessub

[:D]To avoid this type of confusion with your Dom, when you first meet and he ask you about chores, tell them I have a person to clean my house who I pay every week, you should do the same.


LOL last week I got to Masters place and it looked like I cant even describe it and so I jokeingly asked "what did the maid quit?" and he said "mo..wait what are you quiting??"

Magik's maid slave




cellibrat -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 12:39:10 PM)

there are times for slaves to be sick, because we are all human and its the way of life. If not we would be like someone said 'robots'

take for example, me, i have been sick for the last week... my former (who lives with me) took care of me and the kids all week. i am still not up to par and he is still taking care of me by bringing breakfast in bed, or making sure the kids are fed and bathed and entertained. Now when i get to feeling better, things will go back to normal where i do things to service him for the daily tasks that he sets forth.

so yes, in my humble opinion, slaves are able to have and should have their sick days because its like i said only a way of life.




SilverWulf -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 1:16:13 PM)

My girl has been sick the last few days.  In that time I have taken care of her by bringing her drinks and food, making sure she takes her medicines, making sure she is comfortable and not needing anything.  I have also taken care of the house cleaning, cooking, dishes, laundry, etc... 

Once she is feeling better her regular service will resume.  she will serve Me even more diligently than before, trying to 'make up' for all I've done for her.  Works for Me :)

I may be a sadist, but I am not an asshole (well, most of the time). 




BitaTruble -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 1:39:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slave2Bruce

Do You ever give Your slave sick days?  If they live with You, what kind of slack (if any) do you cut them if they are sick or injured?  i'm assuming it is dependent on how sick/injured they are too, so lets assume they aren't deathly ill and can still move around, even if it's at a slower pace. 



I can only do what I am capable of doing. Sometimes illness intefers and I'm am less capable than normal. That can mean that I move slower than usual or it may be that I can't do something at all simply due to lack of strength from illness sapping my energy. Himself is pretty savvy though and doesn't ask me to go out and paint the house when it's minus 30 degrees outside and I've got a fever of 102. He wants me around, healing and getting well as quickly as possible so I can be of maximum use and often times, bed rest is the only solution to that.. so he'll order me to bed, perhaps make me some soup or something and allow my body to do what it needs to do so I can get back on my feet and get back to the business at hand.

Celeste




starshineowned -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 1:45:05 PM)

Greetings..~smiles~

Knock on wood there haven't been any days yet that I've been sick enough to keep me down the entire day or several days. I simply relay to Master how I am feeling, and he decides what he wants to do with me. Most of the time thus far it's alittle extra vitamins, fluids, otc stuff, and allowing me extra sleep or naps.

Yes I get alittle guilty feeling, and I always do a mental check I guess to make sure that I am not trying to take advantage of the situation and get that pampering when it isn't needed. It's my human flaw, and I watch it like a hawk because ultimately it makes me feel even more guilty if allowed to prevail.

I disagree that the feelings of guilt stem from a form of control that no one can do what I do as well. I feel the same guilt when I'm simply knelt at Masters side for long periods of time because I translate often "service/pleasing" as action based. Another of my flaws, and this correlates into that constant learning and truely understanding what it means to "serve/please" that I spoke of in a different thread. I may see some resemblence to control or even topping from the bottom subconsciously..but I don't honestly view it that way. I rather view it as conditioning that I grew up with where if nothing is shown then nothing has been done. It doesn't always work that way in this type of dynamic.

I also don't think it kills the "slave fantasy" either unless you view your slavery as a fantasy. If you remain obedient to what the Owner tells you to do..it remains just that simple. No fantasy needed.

Well Wishes
starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin




ownedgirlie -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 2:16:23 PM)

When I see "sick day" I think of a day off, like I would at work.  Perhaps it is my literal mind but I do not have a day off of being a slave.  However, my Master does recognize when I am ill and rests me accordingly, depending on how sick I am (or not).  When my father died, he put all my assignments on hold until he felt I was ready to focus on them again. Some of them I did anyway, simply because it gave me comfort to do them.  But even then, these weren't "days off," I was simply a slave with altered tasks.




cariad -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 2:30:39 PM)

While i am no longer owned, and even when i was my now Mentor/Protector (yes He was my Master at one point) would know when i am sick.

He could tell by my typing, the tone in my voice when we spoke on the phone and He would be upset with me for not being in bed resting.

In fact almost a month ago now i had my gall bladder removed and was home that same day, but did not go to bed as told when i got home because i was not tired.

He told me to start resting when i am not well and after being growled at for not resting when i got home i went to lay down and was grateful for the peace and quiet of not being pestered to do this and do that.

There are days i get such wickedly evil migraines i can not get out of bed, and Sir knows that when i get them i need sleep, quiet and darkness.

In fact just the other day He got upset with me for not resting when i had a migraine and i told Him i didn't want to rest because i enjoyed speaking with Him on msn.

He ordered me to bed and there i stayed for 4 wonderful hours but when i got up i felt bad for having gone to rest because i really wanted to speak with Him.

Although He is my Mentor/Protector, He still insists on me resting when i am not well and would be growling at me as i sit here writing this because i have a migraine.

That being said because i care for and about Him as much as i do, i am off to rest a bit so my migraine will be gone when He gets off work.

Take care, stay safe, have a great day.




RavenMuse -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 2:34:05 PM)

I expect My girl to give Me 100%.... not just SOME days but every day!

[:D] But what IS 100%.... well for Me is has naff all to do with what is achieved, but rather what effort is put in.... So long as I know she is giving 100% but the reality of her being sick means she can't do some things, C'est la vie, some stuff gets left.... and if I want it done that badly, I'll damn well roll up My sleaves and pitch in!

ETA: I agree with ownedgirlie there. The dynamic doesn't have any downtime for Me.... if she is well she is My girl... if she is ill she is My poorly girl.... still MINE, no 'days off' but I CHOOSE to take her condition into some consideration.... she has no RIGHT to this, but as a caring and realistic Master it is something I pretty naturaly choose to do.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 3:01:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

ETA: I agree with ownedgirlie there. The dynamic doesn't have any downtime for Me.... if she is well she is My girl... if she is ill she is My poorly girl.... still MINE, no 'days off' but I CHOOSE to take her condition into some consideration.... she has no RIGHT to this, but as a caring and realistic Master it is something I pretty naturaly choose to do.


I am glad you added the part I bolded.  I do not take it upon myself to "call in sick," and unless he pulls back on his demands of me, I will keep going until I drop.  I do not have the right to decide when I have down time - that is something he decides for me. 




SCDommie -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 3:10:01 PM)

I never make my slave work/scene when he is sick.  I make sure he gets to the doctor also. 
Sick  days are very appropriate and necessary for a slave in my opinion.

SCD




cjenny -> RE: Sick days for slaves? (2/4/2007 3:11:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

I expect My girl to give Me 100%.... not just SOME days but every day!

[:D] But what IS 100%.... well for Me is has naff all to do with what is achieved, but rather what effort is put in.... So long as I know she is giving 100% but the reality of her being sick means she can't do some things, C'est la vie, some stuff gets left.... and if I want it done that badly, I'll damn well roll up My sleaves and pitch in!

ETA: I agree with ownedgirlie there. The dynamic doesn't have any downtime for Me.... if she is well she is My girl... if she is ill she is My poorly girl.... still MINE, no 'days off' but I CHOOSE to take her condition into some consideration.... she has no RIGHT to this, but as a caring and realistic Master it is something I pretty naturaly choose to do.


Color added by me,
I am confused. Again heh. Are you saying that a slave hasn't a right to be ill? I'm not trying to pick apart your words but I don't understand that bit.




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