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LadyTantalize -> Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 9:34:12 AM)

Well, we've had quite a few great discussions on variations of extreme sadism, some acts very mind-boggling but less physical like Chinese Water Torture, some "long and drawn out" as mentioned in mantis's thread "Sadistic Ordeals", and some very cruel to the human body. This is a very edgy area that many do not like to discuss, but personally I love to compare notes and I preach all follow SSC and RACK guidelines!!

Sooooooo, I know I've got a few tales of "extreme sadism" to tell......

Let's hear some of Y/yours!!! What scenes have you had that might be considered "extreme sadism"? What types of sadistic play do you yearn for? What brands of sadism cause you fear or is a "hard limit" for you? What specific scenes do you fantasize about that are intensely sadistic? What do you think is going to far? Drawing blood? Causing tears? Enraging a slave to anger? Pusing to the point of "breaking"? Do you have fantasies that might be too unrealistic? Have you considered ways to take a far-out fantasy and turn it into a realistic safe, sane and consensual scene?

What do you think about acts of "extreme sadism"?



EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:21:30 AM)

I, personally, don't espouse "SSC" as a way to live, but that's not really relevant.

I consider the Owner extreme, he's branded other subs and plans to brand me. He likes needles and suturing, such as sewing his subs labia together.

The human body can withstand far more than most people ever would choose to endure on their own. While I'd suggest that full amputation of body parts would be bad because of its permanence and decrease in ability, any other pain or experience that you can endure that won't lead to gangrene is within the realm of sadism.

Burning off someone's clitoris, injecting saline into body parts, punching and kicking scenes, drugging scenes, etc etc. They all definitely occur within the world of sadism between consenting people with no negative effects.



mistoferin -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:27:13 AM)

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Burning off someone's clitoris


How exactly could this have no negative effect? Negative for whom? I consider Sir to be extreme in His sadism and He also enjoys all of the same things you mentioned your Owner enjoys. If he were to decide however, that He wished to remove my clitoris by cutting, burning or any other way....I would consider that to have a very negative effect. That in my opinion, would be the difference between hurt and harm.



Sirensong -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:30:31 AM)

I dont go for SSC either..more a form of RACK.
Consenting yes..but sane..not usually no*G*..

I LIKE to get them angry..I find it funny when they glare and fume at Me by are unable to do ANYTHING.
I prefer this to be with only a mental verbal restraint so they COULD move if they wanted to...But dont..for Me.

I have no particular favorite play as each changes with the person I am playing with..
I do like to work on their fears however..so a fear of confinment would have Me play with breathplay
Fear of cutting would be Knives/scalpels.
needles=piercings.
etc..

Note I have not mentioned that they would have NOT a phobia..as phobias and fears are different things..
Although one willing to attempt to play if they were phobic in a way that would encompass their phobias as almost therapy would be fun.






LadyTantalize -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:35:58 AM)

OK, sssshhhheeeeesh, SSC or RACK or whatever credo that you and yours adhere too which verifies SOME degree if consent is involved in your relationship!!

Hey, I live in a house with no safewords and I'm all about "informed consent" or "consensual non-consent" as I'm a "edge Queen".... whatever and anyway.....

I stuck that in the title as I'm trying to make sure I stay fffffffaaaaaaarrrrrrrr away from sounding like I am a psychopath talking about abuse!! (As we all know can happen in a thread!) *ironic chuckles*

Anyway, great talk so far - extreme sadism within the realm of "consent"! How's that!!



mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:37:11 AM)

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The human body can withstand far more than most people ever would choose to endure on their own. While I'd suggest that full amputation of body parts would be bad because of its permanence and decrease in ability, any other pain or experience that you can endure that won't lead to gangrene is within the realm of sadism.

Burning off someone's clitoris, injecting saline into body parts, punching and kicking scenes, drugging scenes, etc etc. They all definitely occur within the world of sadism between consenting people with no negative effects.


wow! EmeraldSlave2 damn Female infibulations is pretty intense.
This is one of those things you hope a slave or sub gives a lot of thought too before hand.
mantis



Sirensong -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:40:57 AM)

There is of course Sadism on a different level
Humiliation
Now I find the strangest things funny so to Me taking a sub round charity stores to buy the "old lady"type clothes and shoes would tickle Me..
Dressing them in them with the WORST applied make up(thick caked blue eyeshadow..heavy red bleeding lippy..cheap perfume)
Sending them out to a club or pub dressed in this way..or even just shopping.

Other evil things ..such as make them buy a porn mag, a large cucumber and a pot of vasaline in the store..etc..




mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 10:47:59 AM)

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I do like to work on their fears however..so a fear of confinment would have Me play with breathplay
Fear of cutting would be Knives/scalpels.
needles=piercings



yes!!!
i really love the idea of fearing a Woman fearing what she is capable of.
I don’t know why but I love the scary stuff
mantis



LadyTantalize -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 11:01:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sirensong

There is of course Sadism on a different level
Humiliation
Now I find the strangest things funny so to Me taking a sub round charity stores to buy the "old lady"type clothes and shoes would tickle Me..
Dressing them in them with the WORST applied make up(thick caked blue eyeshadow..heavy red bleeding lippy..cheap perfume)
Sending them out to a club or pub dressed in this way..or even just shopping.

Other evil things ..such as make them buy a porn mag, a large cucumber and a pot of vasaline in the store..etc..





*Nods* Love it, love it!! I do adore humiliation play!! And, just along the lines You mention too, Siren!!


My boy travels a bit and I've sent him into a porno shop to pick up a few goodies for his Mistress! I make him talk on his cell phone and read Me the titles and descriptions! Of course, I have him peruse the "gay leather" and the "transvestite" porn!! Ohhhh, I get such a giggle because he is a bit shy about our kinky life, but I get such a turn-on having him stand at the cash register and hear him say "it's "A T-girls First Blow Job" for you Lady T.!! This often sends Me into gales of laughter but I often make it up to the boy when he gets home, and I get to watch some hot porn!!

My other mention much like Yours is regarding My slut edwina and our "cheap $5.00 whore role-play". Well, she's not an attractive T-girl, I'll say that so I do like to dress her over-the-top for events and such where others can tease and poke fun. I do the whole sissy maid angle often with a red, frilly petticoat and the works - but at a private party once, I did a sign hung around her neck "Lady T.'s cheap $5.00 whore" - it was a riot and sssssssoooooo embarrassing for that slut!!

Great comments and thanks for the response!!





LadyTantalize -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 11:06:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

I, personally, don't espouse "SSC" as a way to live, but that's not really relevant.

I consider the Owner extreme, he's branded other subs and plans to brand me. He likes needles and suturing, such as sewing his subs labia together.

The human body can withstand far more than most people ever would choose to endure on their own. While I'd suggest that full amputation of body parts would be bad because of its permanence and decrease in ability, any other pain or experience that you can endure that won't lead to gangrene is within the realm of sadism.

Burning off someone's clitoris, injecting saline into body parts, punching and kicking scenes, drugging scenes, etc etc. They all definitely occur within the world of sadism between consenting people with no negative effects.




Yikes to the burning of the clit - not a good area to Me. Isn't that still practiced in some areas of Somalia? Egads - nope, not going there!! Definite permanent damage that I'll not be responsible for, I wouldn't burn a dick completely off either. *chuckles*

I'm not a huge fan of needle-play - just not My thing! But, I love to see a good "needle corset" and I do enjoy watching a good pussy-sewing scene!!

Sounds like you do have an "extreme sadist" there, Emerald!! Good luck with branding! I do love "burn-play" and brands! Are there are particular methods or styles that your Master prefers?

Thanks for the good, thought-provoking comments!



mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 11:30:38 AM)

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Isn't that still practiced in some areas of Somalia


Yes its practiced around the world (not for kink) but I think we should stop talking about this it will subject could get this thread deleted.
mantis



LadyTantalize -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 11:58:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mantis65

quote:

Isn't that still practiced in some areas of Somalia


Yes its practiced around the world (not for kink) but I think we should stop talking about this it will subject could get this thread deleted.
mantis





Ummmmm, so "touchy" subjects are not permitted here? I don't recall reading that in the rules, but I'm certainly not here to instigate nor inflame. Hey, I like to discuss edgy areas and touchy subjects, that's just Me and it all can be discussed in an adult, respectful manner.

I thought that thread got deleted due to "Miss Prankster-Multiple Personality"? I guess I just assumed that often it was problematic posters and not the actual post content that get threads deleted.

Now, I might burn a pussy or two with a cigarrette and I have been known to light some pussy hair aflame!! *evil grins*




mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 12:10:08 PM)

Its not that I don’t want to talk about this subject its interesting.
They have no “illegal practices discussed” in their TOS here.
That’s why the modern day slave trade thread was pulled the other day.
mantis



mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 12:15:15 PM)

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Now, I might burn a pussy or two with a cigarrette and I have been known to light some pussy hair aflame!! *evil grins*


That reminds me I saw a short movie clip once where a Domme “shaved” a guys pubes with an open flame
mantis



LadyTantalize -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 12:33:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mantis65

Its not that I don’t want to talk about this subject its interesting.
They have no “illegal practices discussed” in their TOS here.
That’s why the modern day slave trade thread was pulled the other day.
mantis




Got'cha and thank you for the heads' up!! Ummmmm, good thing I put "SSC" in the title!! *grins*




ProScatman -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 2:42:12 PM)

Well, Mstrs Lady T, I'm very open minded, and willing to try almost anything; just so long as somewhere along the line there are orgasms and cuming aloud! I know for sure there are things I don't even know about now that would be probably be pleasurable to me. If I feel safe enough--I may make known one or two of my Fantasy Scenes! [;)]



mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 3:47:54 PM)

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Got'cha and thank you for the heads' up!! Ummmmm, good thing I put "SSC" in the title!! *grins*


yes glad you did but im a moth to the flame with any thing having to do with 'Extreme Sadism"

mantis



GentleLady -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 6:41:20 PM)

Extreme Sadism

That comes back to word definitions doesn't it? What one person views as extreme may not be what another person calls extreme. So I will offer a couple of examples that I think might fall under the definition.

The first is one that I think of as being extreme because I have a phobia about needles but the submissive involved would not have classed it as extreme. I could not touch needles so I used safety pins and even then I had to have the submissive attach them. he placed the pins to form a ladder running the length of the penis and wore them overnight. Each time I ran My hand along the pins he quivered.

The second is one that neither Myself or the submissive considered extreme but I have been told that it was. he received 15-20 minutes of spanking to warm the flesh on his ass followed by roughly the same amount of time using a crop. My crop has a small head so I can move around the ass cheeks giving different areas time to recover while making sure that every inch of skin gets warmed slowly. Both the spanking and the crop started light and increased in weight steadily. This was followed by 300 strokes with a flogger (soft leather 13 strands 15 inches long) given in sets of 25 with breaks between each set. Again I started at the weight the crop had ended with and steadily increased it. The last step was a cane and 8 blows. By this point the submissive was in subspace and glowing.

The last example is one that both the submissive and Myself considered extreme because it forced him past a point of no return. he had an ego thing about how long he could delay ejaculations and I frequently showed him that I could force him to cum whether he wanted to or not. This usually reduced him to tears and increased submission. One of the times I had him fill his bladder over several hours until he was at the point of begging. Then I instructed him to stroke his penis until he cam but he was not to pee. he discovered that a full bladder made it almost impossible to control the ejaculation. I should mention that he was also into humiliation. Needless to say, when he cam he also covered himself in urine and then cam immediately a second time.

Gentle Lady



mantis65 -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/7/2005 9:16:59 PM)

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The last example is one that both the submissive and Myself considered extreme because it forced him past a point of no return. he had an ego thing about how long he could delay ejaculations and I frequently showed him that I could force him to cum whether he wanted to or not. This usually reduced him to tears and increased submission. One of the times I had him fill his bladder over several hours until he was at the point of begging. Then I instructed him to stroke his penis until he cam but he was not to pee. he discovered that a full bladder made it almost impossible to control the ejaculation. I should mention that he was also into humiliation. Needless to say, when he cam he also covered himself in urine and then cam immediately a second time.


Wow humiliation and pain!



ProScatman -> RE: Extreme Sadism (within the realm of SSC)!!!! (3/8/2005 1:46:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mantis65

quote:

Got'cha and thank you for the heads' up!! Ummmmm, good thing I put "SSC" in the title!! *grins*


yes glad you did but im a moth to the flame with any thing having to do with 'Extreme Sadism"

mantis

Actually, that was Lady T.. Mantis, Since you seem to be well informed, can you tell me why any Master would wish to perminantly disfigure a slave? I've heard of sewing up the Labia or Hood, but that can be undone I would think. I also read a story about a slave who had piercings, and gold rings placed there to be locked with little padlocks. Everything was made of gold, and only her Master had the key. The place was in Switzeland.



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