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HydroMaster -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/7/2007 5:42:17 PM)

Translation:  So the reader greatly dislikes anal sex since that is to them 'the most cynical and depraved types fo cruelty'.  I can think of a lot worse personaly :-) 

The reader is obviously blind.  Are are they actually trying to argue that ' the priority of the strong over the weak was always one of the laws of nature.' isn't true?- sounds like they need to watch more of the history channel and animal planet.  A sickly antelope does not take out the healthy lion and Poland did not drive out the Germans.  Oops, better get off the soap box, I'm ranting again. :-)




domahpet -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/7/2007 5:46:47 PM)

seeksfemslave: wow you look like dennis hopper, and my master! im so freaked out....




thompsonx -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/7/2007 6:51:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

*cough* They're DUDES!


farglebargle:
You are such a killjoy.
thompson




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 1:07:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: windchymes
kowsky.  Composer of the symphony, Romeo & Juliet.  And many other awesome works.
Boom boom - 1812 :)


Windchymes has struck a bell of course
naturally my ode never did mean
to refer to Mr Ell Bernsteen
Nor verily did I ever opine
about the irascible L Bernstyne

Though composed Mr B the  West Side Story
he was known to behave outrageously whoree
Historee reveals a sad sad tale,
Mr B
with wild pleasure did  employ his baton
with no regard of type or gender
But poor Pytor Chai  a sensitive soul
when creative muse did subside 
liked not the emotions that did him render.
as  Gawd Bless my soul....a soddin' bender




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 1:23:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domahpet
seeksfemslave: wow you look like dennis hopper, and my master! im so freaked out....


I have heard it said we all have doubles so maybe you have located mine !
Ms D your profile is very interesting !!




LadyEllen -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 2:05:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HydroMaster

It's just old English.  It's not hard once you get the hang of it.


Nah. This would be Old English -

and on thaem dagon comon Hengest and Horsa, fram Wyrtgeorne gelathode, Bretene cyninge, aerest en Breten, in thaem stede the is genemned Ypwinesfleot.

Chaucer was writing in Middle English

Shakespeare is writing in early Modern English, which is why most reasonable intelligent people can understand him.

E





mnottertail -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 4:26:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

*cough* They're DUDES!


farglebargle:
You are such a killjoy.
thompson


Why, did you see their boners?




kittensmailbox -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 4:31:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

*cough* They're DUDES!


so what if they are "DUDES"... lovers are lovers... get over it....




missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 4:42:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HydroMaster

Translation:  So the reader greatly dislikes anal sex since that is to them 'the most cynical and depraved types fo cruelty'.  I can think of a lot worse personaly :-) 

The reader is obviously blind.  Are are they actually trying to argue that ' the priority of the strong over the weak was always one of the laws of nature.' isn't true?- sounds like they need to watch more of the history channel and animal planet.  A sickly antelope does not take out the healthy lion and Poland did not drive out the Germans.  Oops, better get off the soap box, I'm ranting again. :-)


No don't get off the soap box i agree. I had to laugh at the anal being depravity and wonder who the hell was reading sade that would think that way. As for the nature quote well in my opinion its unarguable (although u watch sum1 will argue with me now) that the weak usually fall at the hands of the strong.
 
There is another one that made me giggle.
'She was simply an average intelligent housewife with reasonable educational background.'
He / she has ? the reasonable as if to try and define what reasonable intelligence is. This quote is only a side note and not part of the philosophy or debauchery of the book. Talk about picky much!! Question the philosophy, but the side notes !?!




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 5:02:10 AM)

Missturbation:
whether you are reading about or are actually reading books by the Maquis de Sade, please stop, its just too filthy.

If you refuse I will beat you with my pizzle !




missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 5:14:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Missturbation:
whether you are reading about or are actually reading books by the Maquis de Sade, please stop, its just too filthy.

If you refuse I will beat you with my pizzle !

 
Too late i have read one (justine) and for the record it was not filthy in the slightest and have made a good start on Juliette, its sister novel. So far yes this one is living up to the expectations i had for sade, which is all good.
 
To beat me with your pizzle would be unconsensual and therefore just not cricket.
 




Marc2b -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 8:10:01 AM)

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If Big Bill Shakespeare is so great why is he so difficult to understand.

This may sound like I am being condescending – that is not my intent. I seek only to enlighten.

You have to put some effort into Shakespeare before he pays off. Most people don’t get Shakespeare because of three reasons.

First, the language problem. Language changes over time and Shakespeare is using words that we don’t normally use anymore. How many people today know what "alarum" or "gleek" mean? Also, some words stay within a language but gradually change their meaning over time. In Shakespeare’s day to "break" with someone could mean to speak with them. The word "should" was often used where today we would use "would." Of course the word "gay" certainly doesn’t mean today what it did back then. When we hear the word "traffic" we think of automobiles on the road but to Shakespeare it simply meant a large group of people moving around (if you think about it, you can see how the word evolved to mean automobiles – large groups of people moving around). On top of all this add the fact that Shakespeare loved to pun and it is understandable why some people find him incomprehensible.

Problem two. The highschool seventh grade English teacher. While I don’t doubt that there are some real good ones out there, most don’t have a clue as to what they are doing. They should give an basic overview of Shakespeare’s works and the context of his times. Instead they usually focus all their efforts on one play. Almost always Romeo and Juliette because they think the kids will somehow "relate" to the main characters. The irony is that those who know Shakespeare well consider Romeo and Juliette to be one of his lesser plays. It is not without it’s charms but it is far from his best effort.

Most kids leave their Shakespeare studies more confused about his works than they were before. I know I did. I remember myself and others laughing over some lines in Romeo and Juliette (what else?):

"Do you bite your thumb at me sir?"

"I bite my thumb."

We didn’t get it. Neither did our English teacher. It wasn’t until years later that I learned that biting your thumb was a Elizabethan equivalent of flipping someone the bird.

Problem three. The Shakespeare snob. Just as there are wine snobs and art snobs who take all the fun out of wine and art by being overly serious about wine and art (usually in an effort to show everybody how cultured and sophisticated they are) there are Shakespeare snobs. These people take all the fun out of Shakespeare by treating every line of dialogue as if it must be uttered seriously and with profundity. Yet Shakespeare at times is bawdy or even silly.

For example, the play Macbeth is a dark and gloomy play but Shakespeare, like any good author, knew that sometimes you have to lighten things up a little. There is a scene in the play where a porter (today we would call him a doorman) is standing watch by the castle's door. He is drunk out of his gourd. He talks about the effects of alcohol of the male sex drive – how it increases desire while, at the same time, decreases performance. He also talks about how men are ruled by their penises, and how the penis is the master of the man. At this point some people arrive at the door and ask the porter: "is your master stirring?"

I’ve seen this scene done both ways. The Shakespeare snob way is boring and makes no sense. When played for laughs, as the scene is clearly meant to be, it’s hilarious.

Well, I don’t know if this will get you interested in Shakespeare but if you do try to get into it I recommend the Folger Library texts of his plays. They are very good at explaining the language. But that’s just to get started. You have to actually see the plays as they were meant to be seen – on stage.

Now, to get back to the original topic: Awwwwwwww. Isn’t that sweet? Seriously, this is just proof that love and sentiment are as old as humanity itself.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 8:23:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
Missturbation:
whether you are reading about or are actually reading books by the Maquis de Sade, please stop, its just too filthy.
If you refuse I will beat you with my pizzle !

 
Too late i have read one (justine) and for the record it was not filthy in the slightest and have made a good start on Juliette, its sister novel. So far yes this one is living up to the expectations i had for sade, which is all good.
 
To beat me with your pizzle would be unconsensual and therefore just not cricket.


De Sade not filthy ? Is that a Shakespearean filthy where it means something other than the meaning it has today.
De Sade would beat you with his pizzle or his cricket bat, consensually or not, so shall I, if ever I can find you !

nb The subtitle of Justine is Good Conduct Well Chastised. lol
Cherchez la salope...thats what I say !




missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 9:36:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
Missturbation:
whether you are reading about or are actually reading books by the Maquis de Sade, please stop, its just too filthy.
If you refuse I will beat you with my pizzle !

 
Too late i have read one (justine) and for the record it was not filthy in the slightest and have made a good start on Juliette, its sister novel. So far yes this one is living up to the expectations i had for sade, which is all good.
 
To beat me with your pizzle would be unconsensual and therefore just not cricket.


De Sade not filthy ?
Justine is clean i tell you, i've read it. He was first and foremost a philosopher and campaigner for certain things not a porn writer. Too many misconceptions of him around by far.
Is that a Shakespearean filthy where it means something other than the meaning it has today.
De Sade would beat you with his pizzle or his cricket bat, consensually or not, so shall I, if ever I can find you !
De Sade could and get away with it. You however would not and i don't appreciate your comment if i'm honest.

nb The subtitle of Justine is Good Conduct Well Chastised. lol
Cherchez la salope...thats what I say !
Actually the subtitle of justine is the misfortunes of virtue, its the whole philosophy behind a book. Why don't you try reading them and then you may get it right?




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 10:25:14 AM)

I should guess I read Justine The Misfortunes of Virtue or Good Conduct Well Chastised before you were even born. Cant remember the details,  except it was filthy. Did you read the version set for GCSE homework ?

Regarding Pizzle sticking Miss T said
De Sade could and get away with it. You however would not and i don't appreciate your comment if i'm honest.

I say, honesty is always the best policy.
Whats a pizzle anyway ?





missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 10:46:11 AM)

I should guess I read Justine The Misfortunes of Virtue or Good Conduct Well Chastised before you were even born. Cant remember the details,  except it was filthy. Did you read the version set for GCSE homework ?
I dare say you did read it before i was born considering you have around 30 years on me. Unfortunately it looks like old age is playing havoc with your memory too because if you thought it was filth well what can i say other then you must be a prude or have been one when you read it.
Nope i read the 1964 version which is a mix of all 3 versions. Mainly the 1767 but has extracts from the 1791 and 1797 too. I'd be very surprised if Sade was ever covered by GCSE to be honest.
 
Regarding Pizzle sticking Miss T said
De Sade could and get away with it. You however would not and i don't appreciate your comment if i'm honest.

I say, honesty is always the best policy.
Whats a pizzle anyway ?
You mean you don't know ? Tut tut.
It has two meanings:-
*The penis of an animal esp. a bull.
* A whip made from a bulls penis.
 
Now considering you said your pizzle - well i highly doubt you have the penis of a bull or ownership of a bull so i presumed you meant the whip. In which case my comments stand. De sade could whip me, you however would feel my wrath and that would not be a wise move on your part.




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 12:05:42 PM)

Miss T: assuming de Sade did, or would if possible,  enact what his books describe, I can assure you that submitting to me would be infinately less painful than submitting to him. In fact submitting to him may even be terminal.

Dont you agree ?




missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 12:13:30 PM)

According to himself yes, it was perfectly acceptable for his victim to die for his pleasure.
Just shows the lengths i qould go to to avoid submitting to you don't it?
 
Also i have a challenge for you. You say 'Justine' is full of filth!! Well find me three quotes that prove this. [:D]




seeksfemslave -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 12:30:26 PM)

MissT: As I have said before I do not look up "sauces" before I post, but simply state my opinions.

Since you insist the book Justine is not filthy I have tried to find some content by searching the Web, not found much yet, but what has come to light is a description of 120 days of Sodom,which again from memory is a whole series of extreme filthy escapades. That is literal filth in that excrement is involved in some stories.

It is possible I am mixing up the two, ie Justine with 120 days.We shall see.
I did not know what a pizzle is, the word just popped into my mind.







missturbation -> RE: Prehistoric lovers found locked in eternal embrace (2/8/2007 1:02:40 PM)

Yes 120 days of sodomy is reputed filth as you say as apparently is philosopy of the boudoir / bedroom by rep. Ive not read either of those yet. You may also be confusing justine with its follow up juliette. I have read a little of juliette and not what i would call filth but definately more sexually explicit than justine.

Pizzle - your welcome, anytime you need to learn the meaning of your words i'll tell ya [;)]

It would be my suggestion to check your words before you make yourself look like a 'pizzle' again. 




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