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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 10:50:57 AM

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Just because I have done something with a previous partner.. doesn't equate that I will want to do it with a current one.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 10:54:17 AM

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this may be true Sir for you though I dont know .if it is somethign you have done with many partners and enjoy what are the odds you are gunna want to give it up.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 10:57:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

this may be true Sir for you though I dont know .if it is somethign you have done with many partners and enjoy what are the odds you are gunna want to give it up.

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what I enjoyed with many partners. doesn't equate to somthing that will enjoyable with the particular partner in question.

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So many speak of making a match of compatiability.. and that compatiblity is matching interest and activities.

Myself.. compatiability is a within the strengths and virtures of a person's character. That such strengths and virtures inspires me... as who I am inspires them. Our interest may have similiar areas... but it will also have differences.

My enjoyment comes from being with a person that inspires me.. and doing things with them.. and not doing things with someone that happens to share the interest.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 10:59:54 AM

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True but doesnt said partner have a right to know it is an inerest BEFOR getting into a relationship so they know it is a possability.. Master has done breathplay I never have I dont perticularly like the idea and thus far he has never used it on me however he did make it known it was something he enjoyed and there for not off the tables as far as beeing something he would never do to me.. I know he may one day chose to play like that with me and so there for I am prepared. If I wasnt told about this and one day found out or one day it was sprung on me Id probubly head to the hills just as this girl had.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 11:06:41 AM

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an interest doesn't equate to it being a possibility.

I met girl.. she has a physical condition that inhibits her ability to be suspended..... Does my interest in suspension matter at that point.

Not unless I choose that it needs to be apart of my activities with my partner. If it doesn't... what point is there to share it... since it is not a possibility with this partner and never will be. Do I give it up.. yeah.. in a heart beat.. I will give up many interests for a greater pleasure. Integrity is beyond price. and many interests will be sold off to have a person with such a character.

It really is a question of what a person holds high in value...... some things are cheap.. some things are expensive.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 2:26:05 PM

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mmmmmm so... explain to me How ... Being told to "Clean" the office... Leads to "Read" private letters.

Maybe.. and I say "Maybe" what was not shared to the submissive was wrong..... but that doesn't excuse a person reading private letters that they had no permission to read in the first place... Which is without question...Wrong!

Big assumptions on your part.

This is the type of question that people can choose the answer they want and work there way back up to some kind of general theorized living.

Personally taking the actual OP post and the words stumble upon and nothing about snooping and being told to clean up the place these things were found and not instigating or going someplace not ordered. With those really the only facts I am at a lost as why some one living in the real world and not living in a theorized world would think this was some major offense by the slave.

As far as I can tell the slave was wrong because probably glancing at something and quickly deducing it is some personal letter, which might only take a few words that she went on to read it. Everyone writes and talks endlessly about not wanting a doormat or robot and someone that is an intellectual equal, well that comes attached to a human being. Like I wrote in an earlier post at best this is blatant unintentional entrapment. It is the classic something did not go exactly the way the Master wanted so how can this be twisted to the slave’s fault scenario.

The reality tests and scenarios are so far on the side of the slave in this example. Nowhere was it mentioned that she was not allowed to read anything or any other type thing of this nature that people who have held up this argument have proposed to get to the conclusion of her wrong doing.

To get into theoretical banter, I would also throw in why was the Master holding on to these in the first place. If they had open and good communication along with a trustful relationship why was the reading so horrible anyway.

The other side argument appears to be just because or some mythical order not to read something that was stumble on was an order or a natural way of life. That is too loose with reality for my tastes.

My reality meter this just looks like a case of a Master forgetting what was in the room and being embarrassed and/or worried what was discovered.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 2:46:13 PM

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Greetings,

When I read over this thread I see 2 issues.
1) a slave being told to do a task,in doing so finding something the Dominant was hiding and should they be punished
2) honesty and being open in a relationship

I agree with what others have said where the slave should not be punished for doing as requested. If I was asked to clean a space, in order to file things correctly I'd read a little of what it was as to ensure I was putting it in the right place where Sir would find it. It would make me wonder why these things hadn't been disposed of however and perhaps I'd ask Sir about it later on after the task was complete.

Honesty and being open in a relationship is a big deal to me. I've told Sir everything, and in return I'd expect Him to tell me everything. That way if something ever came up down the road, it wouldn't be new, or a surprise or anything that could damage the relationship. If people are honest from day one, than trust will continue on for ages... however if someone hides anything, than that trust that was forged may crumble.. and trust imo is a very hard thing to rebuild after it's total destruction.

It's dangerous to hold back on information that might destroy a relationship down the road. I feel that I'd rather talk about it all now and have it out in the open than spend years and years with someone to only find out they've been hiding something from me the whole time and possibly ruin or hurt the relationship.

~ brattie ~

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/10/2007 5:05:51 PM

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So suspicions are permissions to betray trust!

Yes I trust my intuition, and funny thing, the only time I ever read someone's letter, they were screwing around on me and gave me the virus that causes cervical cancer which I was treated from (thank god). He could have given me AIDS, and that is a death sentence.

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don't have much use for liars...

Oh, he knew immediately I read his letter and I knew the truth, he knew I knew it

I am not exactly shy about such things.

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but I have even less use for those that justify their own dishonorable actions by the actions of others.. I call them Hypocrites

I call them HIV free.

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If you have suspicions... then confront them with honor and integrity.. .... Two wrongs do not make it right.

Wow, he would not admit it to me when I asked him, imagine that, someone who cheats on his wife not admitting it... I am shocked to the depths of my soul

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Just maybe... if a person has suspicisons... they have have the courage to face it with integrity

Well there ya are, I do not waste my time on people I cannot trust anymore. I do not snoop on them, but when you are 22, broke, have no where to go, you kinda wanna make sure you do not fuck up and leave someone that does not deserve you to leave.. I had to be sure... and would you believe that even after I had proof he still would not admit it? He lied through his teeth!

Soooo , I would give this advice to my kids, do not be with someone you cannot trust... your life is worth too damn much.

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RE: What would you do if... - 2/11/2007 4:44:01 PM

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mmmmmm so... explain to me How ... Being told to "Clean" the office... Leads to "Read" private letters.

Maybe.. and I say "Maybe" what was not shared to the submissive was wrong..... but that doesn't excuse a person reading private letters that they had no permission to read in the first place... Which is without question...Wrong!

Big assumptions on your part.

explain where is the assumption exactly..

language is rather.... Clear... I would say it is an assumption that one needs to read the letters to clean the office.. not the other way around.

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