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new to slavery - 2/9/2007 3:53:10 AM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		hey fellows slaves,
i am a former Master turned slave. i am embarking on a journey soon with my first Mistress. She is not unkind, but demanding and strict.
from general experiences, an insight to a new relationship, what to expect as a slave, things that might help me along the way.
of course everyones needs are different, but advice is always welcome

thanks
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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 4:05:41 AM   
goodpet


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as you said everyones neeeds are diffierent.. but.. if you focus on always trying to do the next right thing then things should go fairly well.

i often have to slow myself down, think and ask myself, what is the most important thing i need to do RIGHT now.. what is the right thing to do NOW.  98% of the time i know what is the right thing to do.. the other 2% i have to ask.. usually because i have been given several things to do and both or all have equal priority, at least to me, nad i need to know His priority, so.....i ask, " ARRGGGGHHHH, Captain,... what should i  be doing right now ? " to my Master  (the "arrgghh Captain" is from our priate camp play and not disrepectful but an attention getter with a little light heartedness to it. )

good luck, keep us posted on your journey


edited because i did not focus on spelling...

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 4:48:23 AM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I hope you do not mind a reply from a Dominant female. My sub was a Master and now is my sub. It has been journey full of new experiences and renewal for him, as well as myself.

I think the biggest hurdle that we've encountered is communication and trust. We are currently working on both issues. Communication and trust are the most important things in a relationship and ones that people often take for granted. Learning to open up for a lot of men is often very tough. But once you do it is a freeing experience.

As my sub says he has never felt freer in his life. He can be who he truly is without fear of being judged and knowing that he is loved for his true self. I think for many male slaves that is quite a mountain to overcome.

You will be faced with some unkind, unenlightened people who will judge you harshly for your lifestyle choice. As I tell my sub they are ignorant and have no idea what they are talking about. Ignorance is sometimes best ignored. The stronger man is the one who can be who he is without fear or caring what others think.

Good luck,
~Lashra


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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 5:05:45 AM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		Mistress Lashra,
thank You for the posting. since Your sub was a Dominant like me, it would be enjoyable to speak with him as we both travel the same path now. we may be able to draw strength from each other and hel each other along.
that is if You would permit such

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 5:07:26 AM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		thank you for the post, chuckles Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg, i love the pirate stuff also matieeee

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 7:22:05 AM   
Mercnbeth


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quote:

ORIGINAL: flavius

i am a former Master turned slave. i am embarking on a journey soon with my first Mistress.


flavius,
What would you do if a slave that you were considering or had asked these questions? As a Master, would you tolerate a question of service to you made to the general public? Wouldn't you expect, or require, that any question regarding your relationship be directed to you?

New relationships always require a settling in period. Putting two people's ideas together, even if they are documented in written and spoken words, to form a practicing relationship never goes as expected. That's actually part of the "fun". But you have an advantage - your past experience as a Master.

What about your experience as a Master? You should draw upon that experience to know "what to expect as a slave?" When it comes to a question of putting those expectations into practice - those questions belong to your Mistress.  

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 7:26:49 AM   
toservez


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Status: offline 		I have not been in your situation but if I had to guess and from my own experience when first submitting to another is that you will have to learn to let go of things.

I think you might have to deal with loud thoughts of “this is not what I would do” or “why she wants that” and other things of that nature. You might have to increase your focus and let go of things you never really thought about in your daily life that you did not realize you were in control of or that others had different ideas about. Sometimes it can be an issue when you have to remember that it is not about what you think is better, more productive, and more beneficial to both people but what she wants is what she should get is really all that matters.

As Lashra wrote so nicely, it can be the greatest feeling of freedom. Just let go of thoughts of this nature and just live.


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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 9:36:33 AM   
slavekara


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Status: offline 		Greetings All,

Flavius welcome to the forums and the submissive life, this girl hopesyou enjoy your new role and as to advice.

If you are in a situation you don't like, just look at the happiness and expressions your Mistress has on her face, if you're not permitted to look at her, close your eyes and let the submission come out to the open :)

your emotions may be mixed and if you are permitted to, by your Mistress, then keep a written record, like a diary of your feelings, thoughts and emotions it may help keep them under control.

As good pet had stated, focus, focus on your Mistresses reactions, as this may be the only way you know you have pleased her in some situations.

This girl has alot of advice as many do, but her mind is black at the moment lol :) and this girl will post if she remembers any.

Please keep us posted on your new journey.

slave kara (A)

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 11:27:11 AM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		kara sis,
thank you, the advice is sound and will be heeded. it is a new journey for me, one i look foward to.insight from other slaves is a good thing. i can only draw so much from my experience as a Master, but understanding the emotions from within the collar are completely different. i know somethings will be difficult for me, but your suggestion  to watch Mistresses face and reactions is a great one. your advice is constructive and will indeed help me along. ty again

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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 2:02:51 PM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

ORIGINAL: flavius

hey fellows slaves,
i am a former Master turned slave. i am embarking on a journey soon with my first Mistress. She is not unkind, but demanding and strict.
from general experiences, an insight to a new relationship, what to expect as a slave, things that might help me along the way.
of course everyones needs are different, but advice is always welcome

thanks


Serve as she requires, not as you believe you 'should', take your cues from her, keep the lines of communication open, don't whine or rant, be invisible in your service, anticipate her needs, learn of her - who she is, what she wants, how she expects things to be - make sure that you can be what she requires because it's 'within' you to be that and not because you have to force yourself to be that, begin to set aside your own expectations as you allow her to color your world with her own palette, keep her entertained and amused but don't forget to laugh yourself, have fun with your slavery, revel in it, enjoy it.

Good luck to you!

Celeste

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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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RE: new to slavery - 2/9/2007 3:01:53 PM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		again, more excellant advice. somewhere in me i know these things, but viewing them from within the collar takes on new meaning and treying to understand them from a different point of view.
your advice celeste is good and sound. thank you, it is guidence that i needed and will make my service easier with those words.

flavius

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:24:23 AM   
slavekara


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Status: offline 		Greetings All,

This girl thinks she speaks for a few people when she asks you to keep them all updated,obviously with your Mistresses consent of course, she don't want to be encouraging anything that would cause you to be unloyal to your Mistress :)

This girl wishes you luck in your new role and hopes that youcan find happiness serving :)

slave kara (A)

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:34:20 AM   
slavekara


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Status: offline 		Greetings Flavius,

this girl has just read your profile and she is sorry that you are in this situation.

she hopes you can find a Mistress and be happy serving her :)_
she wishes you luck and hope in your search.

slave kara (A)

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:57:42 AM   
rascallymisty


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Status: offline 		flavius,
i wish you this best in this journay. Being a New Yorker also, i have read your profile over the past few years.~smiles~  Hopefully you will find that in which you seek and that will set you free.
 
Once again my best to you.
      ~ misty ~

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 9:06:24 AM   
bearincuffs


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Status: offline 		I think one of the best things to do is be very open, honest and communicate. Since you stated being a former Master, I think the best advice is to take the lessons you taught your former slaves/subs and apply that for yourself, lessons on obedience, trust, giving up control over your life to another.
From slave to another, I wish you all the best on your journey!

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An it harm none, do as thou wilt
Do what you will, so long as it harms none
An it harm none, do what thou will
That it harm none, do as thou wilt
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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 9:19:41 AM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
Serve as she requires, not as you believe you 'should', take your cues from her, keep the lines of communication open, don't whine or rant, be invisible in your service, anticipate her needs, learn of her - who she is, what she wants, how she expects things to be - make sure that you can be what she requires because it's 'within' you to be that and not because you have to force yourself to be that, begin to set aside your own expectations as you allow her to color your world with her own palette, keep her entertained and amused but don't forget to laugh yourself, have fun with your slavery, revel in it, enjoy it.

Good luck to you!

Celeste


I know this was intended for flavius, but I think I'm gonna print it out and stick it on my mirror, on my computer, on my fridge and in my wallet.

Thank you Celeste!

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:08:42 PM   
Zsuzsanna


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
Serve as she requires, not as you believe you 'should', take your cues from her, keep the lines of communication open, don't whine or rant, be invisible in your service, anticipate her needs, learn of her - who she is, what she wants, how she expects things to be - make sure that you can be what she requires because it's 'within' you to be that and not because you have to force yourself to be that, begin to set aside your own expectations as you allow her to color your world with her own palette, keep her entertained and amused but don't forget to laugh yourself, have fun with your slavery, revel in it, enjoy it.

Good luck to you!

Celeste


I know this was intended for flavius, but I think I'm gonna print it out and stick it on my mirror, on my computer, on my fridge and in my wallet.

Thank you Celeste!



I second that. It was very well said. 
Thank you Celeste! 

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:47:17 PM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		sisters,
i agree fully, celeste is wise and generous sharing that. it will be a guide for me also

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:51:00 PM   
myobedience


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Status: offline 		curiously  i'd like to know why you decided to switch the fence completely?
 
 
me

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RE: new to slavery - 2/10/2007 5:56:16 PM   
flavius


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Status: offline 		I will try to explain.
the pressures of being the one in control, making the decisions,being the one looked for for strength.
i needed more the slaves being dependent on me for everything. then it suddenly hit me, i was the one who was dependent, i was empty from pleasing another and wanting to be found pleasing.
i had found slavery and my submissive side.
sorry, but this is the best i can do as i am unacostomed to voicing my feelings and posting them in print, they dont always come out right. thats why i was let go by Mistress

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