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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 9:56:53 AM   
buttafly


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Status: offline 		I think to a certain extent, everything is about sex, in the context of sexuality. To me, D/s only heightens the fact that we are all sexual / spiritual beings, those two things that cannot be "seen" but permeate our existance. So, yes, I believe D/s is all about sex, but at the same time, doesn't require intercourse, or orgasm to reach it's full potential. Have you ever met someone, wanted to serve them from your soul so deeply that you feel it in the pit of your stomache? To me, any physical reaction to D/s is sexual. It's kinda hard to explain, but I gave it my best shot. buttafly

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 10:59:24 AM   
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Well, I think we need some definition of terms before we can really discuss this.
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Taggard

Um, for the love of god, no we don't.

LOL Funny Lily, that's what I thought. M


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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 2:22:23 PM   
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Yeah...I'm not very good at that stick to the original question thing, am I?


Yup Taggard... If You stuck to the original q' it just wouldnt be the Taggard we all know an love (in our own definitons of love, of course...*grinning*)
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Yep...except the monkeys who swing on the D/s branch throw their feces when riled...so I just hang out with the squirrels on the trunk. *wink*


Lol...too funny....
If You hang with the squirrels, Do ya play with your nuts too?

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 2:32:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex

It isn’t true. It isn’t false. It definitely lacks precision, and is therefore inaccurate.

Simply put, it is an overly simplistic remark.

- LA


Taglines usually are. Because most minds are simplistic. No point in overtaxing them.

Otherwise, yes, I'd agree with you on the whole.

Grandpa Lash

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 2:39:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mostly I use that tagline to indicate that I am a primarily sexually oriented Dom, but like others who have posted, I often have D/s without overt sexual activity (especially the service elements), although always with covert sexuality involved, but I rarely these days have sex without at least some aspect of D/s and/or BDSM involved, even if only a pair of clothes pegs by the bed or holding her wrists while she serves me. It was also developed to stick a finger up at those souls who definitively state, "No!"

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 2:53:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		In my humble opinion..no, you could be in a D/s relationship without sex being involved. BUT...it's a nice perk.


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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 3:38:52 PM   
January


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But hey, I suppose to some folks it sounds worldy and sophisticated if you can say "Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex".

January

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 4:22:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: January

False.

But hey, I suppose to some folks it sounds worldy and sophisticated if you can say "Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex".

January


And some folks couldn't give a blind flying fuck if some idiot thinks it sounds worldly and sophisticated, they can say it because for them it is true.

Grandpa Lash

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 4:49:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GrandpaLash
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex

It isn’t true. It isn’t false. It definitely lacks precision, and is therefore inaccurate.

Simply put, it is an overly simplistic remark.

- LA


Taglines usually are. Because most minds are simplistic. No point in overtaxing them.

Otherwise, yes, I'd agree with you on the whole.

Grandpa Lash


Well GL, it's your tagline and you can put whatever you want in your tagline and I'd never make anyone's tagline the subject of a thread, unless it was mine. So I was not overtaxing your tagline, but rather the statement put up for debate.

In addressing the statement, I tried to seperate it from the author. If I didn't, I would have had to try to get into what it was that you meant when you wrote it and how likely is that to happen? Besides, we have you here to explain it for us.

As for taglines being simplistic, I think not. They are a statement we often believe in strongly.

An iron hand in a velvet glove - someone very close to me said this of me one day and I love it. I know it has many connotations. It's a very old saying that is anything but simplistic. My appropriation of it is anything but simplistic as well. I feel it, I embody it, I live by it. It is a representation of me.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/10/2005 6:53:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GrandpaLash
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ORIGINAL: January
But hey, I suppose to some folks it sounds worldy and sophisticated if you can say "Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex".
January

And some folks couldn't give a blind flying fuck if some idiot thinks it sounds worldly and sophisticated, they can say it because for them it is true.
Grandpa Lash

I almost feel your pain Grandpa, feeling like you need to explain why this is your tagline... I like your tagline, but it's been called simplistic in one and pretentious in another, and that's not fair, so I understand this reply.

I don't like to have to explain why I'm simplistic most days and complex on rare occasions (very rare, lol), but life itself is too serious and intense, and to the extent possible, I try to go on everyday being honest/decent as a human being without worrying too much about what EVERYOBODY else thinks. M

P.S. Now, on a more shallow note, how about changing your name to RefinedLash or LikeFineWhineLash?? Granpa just doesn't make people think sex and you still look sexy, and want women to think you're hot right?. M

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/11/2005 4:19:40 AM   
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I almost feel your pain Grandpa, feeling like you need to explain why this is your tagline... I like your tagline, but it's been called simplistic in one and pretentious in another, and that's not fair, so I understand this reply.


I cannot speak for other's comments. However, I did not attack GL nor his remark. And I resent being lumped in with someone who outrightly insulted GL.

I commented that the statement put up for discussion was simplistic. I did this in response to Taggard who responded to Jasmyn before scrolling down and seeing that it was GL's tagline.

My comment was not an insult, but rather an opinion. Simplistic, from simplism, which is the reduction of a problem to a false simplicity by ignoring complicating factors. It was the summation of my post: "It isn’t true. It isn’t false. It definitely lacks precision, and is therefore inaccurate. Simply put, it is an overly simplistic remark."

It is my belief that GL did not see my contribution as an attack. If he did, he is free to contact me.

People seriously need to stop assuming that well versed, diplomatic opinions are personal attacks. If and when I decide to attack someone, rest assured there will be no doubt as to whether or not I am.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/11/2005 8:06:29 AM   
PaintedLady


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So My question is does D/s always have to be about sex?


Well, for me, Sex has become soooo much about submission that having I don't think I could have Vanilla sex- even if he was, in my mind, it is still about submitting. It doesn't need to be a big production or whips and chains or anything, just a hand at my throat, or in my hair or even his attitude can send me soaring!

But D/s without sex? I have done it, and found I feel sort of empty afterwards, like it isn't finished untill he takes me. I can come from a good flogging or spanking and at least it leaves so turned on that I go over the edge at the lightest touch but untill he comes, iam not not happy and making him cum becomes the most wonderful feeling to me.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/11/2005 1:11:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex
it is an overly simplistic remark.- LA

I didn't accuse you of attacking GL. I simply replied to "GL" and said you called his tagline simplistic, and did you not?
I will next time make 2 posts if I have an opinion that includes a line of yours if that lumping ifthat is what pissed you off. I'm assuming nothing, but simply stating my feelings (to which I have a right). M

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/11/2005 2:39:03 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
I didn't accuse you of attacking GL. I simply replied to "GL" and said you called his tagline simplistic, and did you not?


Nope :) I said that the statement put up for debate by Jasmyn was simplistic.

- LA


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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 3/11/2005 5:20:18 PM   
January


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ORIGINAL: GrandpaLash

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ORIGINAL: January

False.

But hey, I suppose to some folks it sounds worldy and sophisticated if you can say "Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex".

January


And some folks couldn't give a blind flying fuck if some idiot thinks it sounds worldly and sophisticated, they can say it because for them it is true.

Grandpa Lash



Based on the words "fuck" and "idiot" (always the word choice of the truly worldy and sophisticated), I guess you thought I was attacking you personally.

<shrug> I think my trying to explain the facts of the boards and the relative rarity of mind readers and lack of people who search for your personal tagline before they post an opinion would be, well, pointless.

January

< Message edited by January -- 3/11/2005 5:31:40 PM >

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 4/11/2005 2:02:52 PM   
Sweeticing


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Status: offline 		I think you either think it does or dosent. I firmly think BDSM all around should not be all about sex. I have had plenty of play dates that didnt involve sex. sure there is nudity and perhaps touching but no sex. What pressure to put on someone to think there always has to be sex involved. anyhow whoever wrote that quote is just his/her opinion. many do BDSM with no sex ever.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 4/11/2005 4:01:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s without sex

Nothing is pointless in our relationships, because we learn and grow from them. If a couple places importance in refraining from sex then it is importance. Sounds like someone just wants to get laid.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 4/13/2005 6:42:55 PM   
Sinergy


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I think to a certain extent, everything is about sex, in the context of sexuality.


My sentiments exactly.

If the question is do I have to orgasm to enjoy BDSM activities? The answer would be no.

If the question is does my human experience and the biological and spiritual processes relating to sex and sexuality impact everything I do in life, the answer would be yes.

Just me, could be wrong, but there ya go.

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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 4/13/2005 8:37:04 PM   
smile2cu


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Sex without D/s is

Still pretty darn good!

With all due respect, where in the world have you folks been?

Seriously, if you don't think vanilla sex is good, you need to find better vanilla lovers. And for once I'm not kidding!



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RE: Sex without D/s is about as pointless as D/s withou... - 4/13/2005 9:00:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me, D/s is sexual, but it does not have to involve sex. I am a bit different than a lot of submissive guys in this respect.

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