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favorite ways to train? - 2/10/2007 8:35:15 PM

Nalta

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what traning was your favorite to have your slave go thogh and how did you do it?

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/10/2007 9:12:40 PM

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Just a small thing but a personal favourite....

Most subs get hung up over success and failure, esp the fear of failure. But me, I'm more interested in her endeavours to succeed rather than whether she actually does or not. To that end, any training with someone new will at some stage always include having her remove her panties while her hands are securely bound behind.

Some can do it, some can't - mostly depending on their physical build. She's allowed to use whatever means she can think of but, so far, only one has ever thought to simply ask me to pull them down. Bad news for her was that I declined as I do enjoy the "show" - which was the real purpose! And the lesson is that I decide what success and failure is, NOT her!

And for those who can do it, I have other tests.... ;-)

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/10/2007 9:17:05 PM

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wow......thats deffinatly on my list of things to do to my sub

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/10/2007 9:38:21 PM

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Mine is to note their neurotic issues and then list them off to them with specific examples at dinner- usually with dead-on accurate predictions about their family life and how they were raised.

The other is to wait for them to do something, point out exactly what they are doing, why they are doing it and laugh at them about it- getting them to laugh at themselves in the process and open up a dialogue about the issue.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/11/2007 4:53:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50
Just a small thing but a personal favourite....
Some can do it, some can't - ....... I do enjoy the "show" - which was the real purpose!

And the lesson is that I decide what success and failure is, NOT her! ....

Focus.

I am glad you put that in there,. that is a good lesson and that is a fun way to teach it. if there was not a lesson for them to discuss and understand afterwards then it would just be kinky show and play. (which is fun and OK too, but not really training then)

Too many doms give the sub something to do and it is fun and kinky and the dom gets off watching it but there is no ending to it that helps the sub understand why or be a better sub/person. call a spade a spade.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/11/2007 7:12:40 AM

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Like others, they range from the simple selfish pleasures to the good stuff like LA mentions.

Most women today have horrible posture, shoulders hunched, etc. I teach them to throw their heads back, square their shoulders and to walk proudly. I love women who have that light prancing walk but I have never managed to teach one to walk that way.

Just to fuck with their heads and make them custom to me, I tend to take them to a good makeup artist, have them change their makeup and do it a new way. I like thinner eyebrows, darker lipstick, etc. Done well it can be a VERY hot day!

I teach them to say self affirming things, "I AM a good girl", "I AM talented," "Daddy IS proud of me" etc. I listen carefully for the tone they use when saying it and I make them repeat it until they at least aren't mocking themselves. Many find it terribly hard at first, which is why it is both fun and rewarding. On its face it is a silly technique but done well over long periods can be quite effective.

When at scene events, there are two ways to walk, at most it is behind my right shoulder, if in a safe crowd, her hand is on my shoulder so I know she is there. At a place like Power Exchange in SF that has a much more vanilla/touchy crowd, she walks in front of me with MY hand on her shoulder so I can keep my eye on her.

She stands (at an event) with her head slightly downcast and her eyes on the ground. This signals others that she isn't there to speak to them and keeps her mind in the right focus.

The correct way to scratch my back, VERY important!

I have a tiny handful of positions I like and I have subtle hand/voice cues for her.

However, much of what I do with a woman depends greatly on her strengths and weakneses, what issues she has, what sort of perversions she enjoys/hates/limits, etc.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/11/2007 11:00:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

Just a small thing but a personal favourite....

Most subs get hung up over success and failure, esp the fear of failure. But me, I'm more interested in her endeavours to succeed rather than whether she actually does or not. To that end, any training with someone new will at some stage always include having her remove her panties while her hands are securely bound behind.

Some can do it, some can't - mostly depending on their physical build. She's allowed to use whatever means she can think of but, so far, only one has ever thought to simply ask me to pull them down. Bad news for her was that I declined as I do enjoy the "show" - which was the real purpose! And the lesson is that I decide what success and failure is, NOT her!

And for those who can do it, I have other tests.... ;-)

Focus.

Im suddnely very glad I dont wear panties LOL

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/12/2007 12:50:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

Just a small thing but a personal favourite....

Most subs get hung up over success and failure, esp the fear of failure. But me, I'm more interested in her endeavours to succeed rather than whether she actually does or not. To that end, any training with someone new will at some stage always include having her remove her panties while her hands are securely bound behind.

Some can do it, some can't - mostly depending on their physical build. She's allowed to use whatever means she can think of but, so far, only one has ever thought to simply ask me to pull them down. Bad news for her was that I declined as I do enjoy the "show" - which was the real purpose! And the lesson is that I decide what success and failure is, NOT her!

And for those who can do it, I have other tests.... ;-)

Focus.

Im suddnely very glad I dont wear panties LOL

Magik's slave

Sadly (IMO), not many fem/subs seem to.... I know what a naked female looks like but there's something sexy in how a woman can dress and even sexier in how she can undress. And I like my imagination "organ" stroked, too! lol

Simple rule for my girl; she wears panties because allround, they can be so damned sexy - and not just in how I make her remove them. *wink*

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/12/2007 6:48:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Most women today have horrible posture, shoulders hunched, etc. I teach them to throw their heads back, square their shoulders and to walk proudly. I love women who have that light prancing walk but I have never managed to teach one to walk that way.

I had never really noticed it before, but I tend to walk looking down. I've had lots of guys comment on it. I do feel in some situations it "may" be related to my submissive nature......, but mostly I think I do it because I'm not always the most graceful lady around and I want to make sure of where I'm stepping so that I don't fall on my head.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 8:22:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nalta

What traning is your favorite to have your slave go through and how do you do it?

For me, meaningful and thorough mental intercourse is by far the most effective method of all training. She must know my mind, and I, hers. Without such exchange, she does not understand me or my underlying motives and philosophies. Without this understanding, she is submitting to an image she has of me, and not who I actually am. A subtle, but crucial detail that can often be obscured or overlooked on the less enchanting but more heavily trodden road to sensual thrill rides.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 9:38:29 AM

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favorite ways to train?

My favorite is the 'Socratic Method'.

Don't laugh!

Ideally my "student", my sub, ultimately my slave, had the desire when the training process started. The commitment to training being the first indication. Determining whether the desire was fantasy based or an indication of a deep part of the person's nature is a process of self discovery. My training was directed to self discovery because my goal was to find a person who not only had the ability and desire to be a slave, but at the end of the process could be nothing else. The qualifier of course is that I had to have a predetermined definition of 'slave' and 'Master', as well as clearly defined relationship rules. In other words I had a goal in mind for myself. I had an "ideal relationship" dynamic. "Training" was a process of determining whether the person fit within my definitions and could succeed in the relationship as an extension of their nature.

To that end, I never provided answers. I provided experiences and subsequently asked questions which I hoped would generate introspection. I observed reaction in and out of "lifestyle" context. I directed them to examples provided by other people across the relationship dynamic spectrum. I encouraged experiences within my influence but outside my direct control to observe and benchmark progress. All my training did was encourage self awareness. If I didn't reach my personal goal it wasn't failure for either of us. It was a matter of self realization, and a factor that the definitions for the labels; slave, Master, relationship were not compatible.

The physical aspect of training is the easy part. Obtaining an 1984 Orwellian goal of forcing thought potentially creates automatons who provide no sense of achievement to dominate. However, achieving the goal set by O'Brien over Winston Smith in Orwell's book was a goal - Complete and utter focus on Master and the relationship. Self discovery under the Socratic Method insures that focus was not forced, but instead was the natural and logical result of a desire already there, but not realized until brought out by the trainer.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 10:53:48 AM

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favorite way: Positive reinforcement for behaviors I like

next: clear and immediate verbal feedback for behaviors I want to change

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 12:18:12 PM

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I start with vulnerability.

It can start on an emotional level, but it can start on a physical level as well. I handle different relationships differently, depending on where I think the person is 'at' on their journey.

Regardless how it starts, emotional vulnerability is the focus, whether that is mentioned or not (usually not). I create a bond, a need, an outlet.

It goes from there. Sometimes towards painplay, sometimes towards service. Again, it all depends. My capabilities and interests are pretty broad. I do have specific interests, but they are usually bundled up with the specifics of the woman.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 7:38:51 PM

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Loved your post, Merc, and it spoke to what my experience was like as well. I had to have the desire and commitment, and he did not provide answers (although if I became completely stuck he might give me a hint to help find my way out of a corner), yet asked questions, brought me through experiences, and observed.

As such, he not only got into my head, but brought me into my head as well, to learn, know, and love myself, and to be aware at all times of who and what I am, and my need to be as I am.

And now there can be no other way for me. Of my own accord, I am where I need to be, and my focus is on him in all I do. As such, I now find myself in the most incredible place. I think they call it Nirvana.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/13/2007 7:54:28 PM

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i walk looking down to, i think it is due to me having cordination problems and i am afride of tripping, my Master is trying to correct this, so is my mother actualy, and my grandmother was before her. But it is hard for me. i also spend way to mutch time looking down at the PC in my lap, witch i think do give me a bad posture. And that is not good for health, or Energy.

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RE: favorite ways to train? - 2/16/2007 5:52:04 PM

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i teach subs loyalty. how? i love that they want to please me, i let them please me all the time and i give em a good dickin down when they do. they know they special to me so i let em come up with more creative ways to turn me on.i am not one of these who let em tell me what they want. their job is to please, mine is 2 enjoy

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