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What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/14/2007 8:17:25 PM   
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Femdom spanking is soo sexy and exciting! However, the good spankers are very few. Someone just has the trick to spank really hard but leave few marks, and you can enjoy it!

Could anyone kindly share some tricks?
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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/14/2007 8:27:01 PM   
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Even if you only use a hand, you will have marks.  There is no way getting around it.
You just have to know where the stimulating places are in the arse area and develop a talent. 
Good spanking is a talent.  I tend to be good at it.  I don't brag about many of my skills, but I will take this one. 
Even if it is a small hand doing the  spanking, it  will leave red marks on most behinds unless they have very thick skin.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/14/2007 8:52:28 PM   
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What's wrong with marks?  I happen to love seeing them on a sub as a sign of my handiwork.

How much someone does or doesn't mark really has more to do with the bottom than the top.   Some folks just mark/bruise more easily than others do.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/14/2007 11:27:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kyang777

Femdom spanking is soo sexy and exciting! However, the good spankers are very few. Someone just has the trick to spank really hard but leave few marks, and you can enjoy it!

Could anyone kindly share some tricks?


Usually where a person is hit on the butt makes the difference in the intensity felt.  So a good whack in one spot won't be felt much and others will put the person on their tippy toes from the sensation.

Why are you worried about marks?  I mean most spankings usually result in some redness but that's about all.  I mean brusing can happen in those prone to it.

Can someone actually get harmed physically by spanking their tush?


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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/15/2007 12:36:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kyang777

Femdom spanking is soo sexy and exciting! However, the good spankers are very few. Someone just has the trick to spank really hard but leave few marks, and you can enjoy it!

Could anyone kindly share some tricks?


I was just kinda wondering if you were asking for tips so that you could be ready to carefully instruct the next Domina on how to properly spank you.
Just  kinda wondering, mind you. 
It is unfortunate there are so few Dominas who know how to spank properly.  It ruined My day to realize there is a sub out there who has difficulty finding a decent spanker.
<removes tongue from cheek and wanders off...bored, again...>


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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/15/2007 1:45:08 AM   
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greetings box

yes if someone is hit long and hard enough that person can die but it has to be a long period of not stop beat it has happen to childern but adults sometime at hazing in college this has last month to a young man the beat him with a paddle long and hard he passed away.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/15/2007 3:58:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kyang777

Femdom spanking is soo sexy and exciting! However, the good spankers are very few. Someone just has the trick to spank really hard but leave few marks, and you can enjoy it!

Could anyone kindly share some tricks?


I'd be very interested to learn too, how one can spank really hard, and not leave any marks. It sounds like one hell of a trick! Using my high school biology and physics;

Marks ensue because the skin is being attacked. The greater the force, the greater the marks. The lesser the force, the lesser the marks. A spanking, given the size of the surface of the hand transferring the force is comparatively large, requires more force or more repetitions to produce marks, than a thinner instrument (cane etc) which is transferring the force, concentrated into a smaller surface area, (ignoring additional momentum); a cane can be used to produce marks from the first stroke, without using a great deal of force, or used with the same force as for a mark producing spank, can produce very strong marks, even breaking the skin.

Additionally, the degree of pain experienced also varies with the degree of attack on the skin. Again, greater force means greater pain, and again the degree of force required for a certain level of pain, varies with the concentration of force by way of the surface area of the means of transfer of force. A cane for instance, can produce more pain from lesser force, than a hand applied with similar force.

If a spanking is to not produce marks, then it must therefore be applied with very little force and for quite short duration, in order that the attack felt by the skin is insufficient to cause marks. However, that the force is not great and the duration is not long enough to produce an attack response and thus marks, must also mean that the degree of pain must also find itself reduced accordingly.

So, genuinely, I am interested in how to get around this as the OP prefer, and how my description varies from actuality. I confess to little experience here, having only two real life instances to draw from, but those instances did concur with this description.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/15/2007 5:55:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DigitBox

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyang777

Femdom spanking is soo sexy and exciting! However, the good spankers are very few. Someone just has the trick to spank really hard but leave few marks, and you can enjoy it!

Could anyone kindly share some tricks?


Usually where a person is hit on the butt makes the difference in the intensity felt.  So a good whack in one spot won't be felt much and others will put the person on their tippy toes from the sensation.

Why are you worried about marks?  I mean most spankings usually result in some redness but that's about all.  I mean brusing can happen in those prone to it.

Can someone actually get harmed physically by spanking their tush?



I know the ass will be red, I am not worrying about it. As long as it will go away in reasonable amount of time, no bleeding and so on. One of the very few spanker I met is such that she can spank your ass untill it feels like an elephant skin, but the red/bruise will go away in a couple of days! This mistress told me that the trick is to warm up slowly, after warm up and your ass gets red, then you can take a lot more than you can imagine. Any similar experiences?

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/15/2007 11:27:53 AM   
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I find the spanking is best - and longest, if after 3-4 swats I let my hand linger and squeeze and fondle a bit, maybe let my fingertips explore other nearby crevaces, and then right back to it - alternating between pain and pleasure.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/16/2007 12:04:12 PM   
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How many of you are familiar with 'Leda ladies'?

http://www.nu-westleda.com/new_page_1.htm

They seems very stern and tough for me, have any of you practice spanking like them?

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/16/2007 12:09:58 PM   
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Actually, most of us are more concerned with getting what we want out of such an activity than fulfilling male fantasies.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/17/2007 9:48:21 AM   
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I would far more prefer straps than paddles. My sub bruises so severely with a paddle and it hurts her to sit down for days. But with the strap, the pain is intense but it is stingy and more burny and nowhere near the bruising with a paddle. It still hurts her to sit but  it's only stingy to sit, not like the paddle where she said it aches.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/17/2007 6:02:19 PM   
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Dear LadyEllen, Ladies and Gentlemen;

In reference to your post #7, in short you wondered how one could spank really hard and not leave any marks.  If memory serves me, I had answered another about spanking and should be in Archives here on Collarme.com.

There are several 'hands' per se, which can be used.  It is the rigid hand that leaves marks rather then a flexible hand.  Even how the fingers are positioned can make a difference.  In warming up a 'bottom's bottom' I favor the 'skip stroke' as to relax the buttocks and the slave.  When a person tightens their bum, it will cause more marks and discomfort but, if warmed up it is a increase in tempo and energy the body can adjust without being prone to marking.

When an avid spankee is 'leathered' which means having increased the ability to register pain/discomfort and their skin and body as a whole moves out of virgin sensitivities of spanking, they can take more but, it also requires consistancy.  In leathering/conditioning the body it requires consistancy.  This applies to caning, flogging, spanking, genital torture and the like.

Although a cane can produce marks at the first stroke--it is often the case the person is using the cane as a baseball bat/tennis racket and putting full weight, speed and force into that first stroke.  Nothing artful about it.  I have been able to cane with three fingers and only enough energy as holding an envelope, using the other fingers to clap my palm and get intense results.  In using 'tipping' as a technique, I do show that the cane does not need to hurt or mark.  Using nerve bundles or the human's electrical system, I can use canes with little weight, speed or force, no marks and get the results others have to beat out of someone, thus instilling fear and hate towards caning.
Those wishing to read on the techniques of caning, are welcome to Google my name, Lady Hugs Caning.  It is the same similar technique I use for spanking however the description of the hands are differently but the strokes are 'kin' to what I use in spanking, paddling and caning.

Excerpt on "Spanking 101" Lady Hugs author &copyrighted 2005

The “Strokes.” These strokes are offered as described and taught by those who specialize in “Spanking Clubs” in Europe, to which were peppered throughout and most high societies had for polite ladies and gentlemen. These strokes are not “new” inventions but old ways of doing things.
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The “Passive Hand,” stroke is much like a very limp and loose hand. Like most people who go onto the playground and “dribble” a basketball on the playground when not in play. It is relaxed and with follow through with a loose, fluid and soft hand. Only the lightest touch is required to maintain the control of the basketball. Therefore, in identical manner the “Passive Hand” falls purposefully onto the crown of the buttocks and or peak of the buttocks cheek, then lifted with a relaxed and limp wrist. This is also a warm up stroke, to which can be used in an upward stroke under the breasts, buttocks and male genitals.
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The “Skip Stroke,” also known as the “Scoop Stroke,” is when the hand skips along the surface of the body, such as skipping a rock across the water or if sliding two hand symbols against each other in a parade. It is a curved stroke, to which the hand is passive and much like turning on and off a light switch skims across the crown of the buttocks, upwards on the genitals.
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The “Splay Hand,” which I would describe as your fingers as far apart from each other but remaining comfortable in it is spread. This gives an entirely different sensation as well as spreads the impact across more of the slave’s body.
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The “Closed Hand” is as described. Closed fingers but not as tight and rigid as to become a paddle. It really the best fit of a description would be the hand at rest and relaxed position and not a fist. Most parents spank their children with such a hand “style” of which most people instinctively use when spanking.
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The “Cupped Hand,” is a very interesting hand position. By cupping your hand, as if to scoop something and your hand is like a little shovel scoop, this position gives another sensation entirely. This is recommended for spanking over body jewelry and or piercing, avoiding contact with a previous injury and or genitals. It allows a hollow to where there can be a body displacement upon impact. This also would be a breast friendly stroke as well as male testicle and cock friendly.
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The “Flat Hand,” to which is a rigid hand that acts more like a paddle then a hand. This is one of the harshest of strokes and would not be seen used anywhere other than the buttock, on the back shoulders area and rarely upon the male chest. This stroke can interrupt a person’s heartbeat on the chest area much like a punch, so it is highly recommended to stay on the buttocks --Period!
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The “Hit and Lift” stroke. Probably the instinctive stroke in spanking, paddling and caning you will find around the globe. Once the touch to the target the hand, paddle and or cane is immediately lifted. By doing this the heat of the pain from the strike will dissipate and slightly radiate from the target site.
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The “Hit and Hold” stroke. This stroke is when you hit the buttocks or targeted area and hold it against the skin, not lifting it for a few moments. By holding the hand without lifting, the warmth is maintained and amplified, to which sends the heat more widespread and deeper. This holds true with paddles and canes -- not just hand spanking.
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The “Hit and Slide” stroke. In striking the target site and then slide across, the sensation will feel as if the hand has impacted and heat radiates yet, when it is sliding immediately after the strike, feels like skin is melting and sliding in the direction of the hand sliding off their buttocks. I would not advise this stroke to be used anywhere but the buttocks and maybe a person’s back shoulder area. This stroke is hard to perfect as a spanking stroke however, it is wonderful for paddles and better yet with canes. It is even more profound if there is a textured cane, as the heated skin will feel the texture and will be as if someone is pulling string through a buttonhole.
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The “Hit and Pull” stroke. Now, this stroke can only be used in spanking bare handedly. When the hand strikes the target site the hand is lifted and fingers come together as pulling or gathering items in the tips of the finger. This gentle draw of fingers inwardly gives the sensation of the skin being pulled, yet the dominant’s fingers will be empty.
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The “Punch Stroke,” is when the fist is balled up as to “punch” a site. This should not be used unless the slave is very aware of this stroke.  This should not be used anywhere other than the muscled area of the chest, not directly on breasts (male or female), on the muscled part of the upper back and the buttocks cheeks at their crown. The dominant must never wear rings or other jewelry on their hands or fingers with this stroke. It would be a good idea not to wear jewelry period for spanking period.
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The “Pound Stroke,” is the area of the side of the hand, along the little finger and ridge of the hand to the wrists. Not exactly, like a Karate Chop but a balled fist but using the side of the fist.
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The “Back Hand” stroke is exactly that. The back of the hand and relaxed. Again, no jewelry on the fingers. This is especially important for women to remember, with their settings more often are high and off the finger can be crushed, loosing a stone and most importantly will puncture the body of the slave.

End of excerpt...

As a Spanker, I use the coloring of the Spankee's bottom as a guage for my duration, intensity and marking.  It is also dependent on a person's ethnicity to which the skin's ability to resist marks also applies.  Fair skin and blue eyed individuals seem to mark the quickest. 

Although in the Spanking 101, I cover more--like gloves and using textures, etc., a Spanker can really provide a wonderful scene and wonderful results.

As Dominants, we have three basic powers--the mind, the voice and the touch.  Everything else is an extention of these three powers.
So, in addition to spanking, pinching in between can be done, holding the skin taunt with one hand and spank with the other; pinch a buttock and squeeze then spank the exposed crown made from the pinch.  So many creative ways to spank, it can be it's own book.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs


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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/18/2007 4:07:17 AM   
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Wunderbar LH! Thank you.

Now, I just need someone to practice on - volunteers anyone?

What I note though, is that what the hand positions and techniques demonstrate, is that using them one is varying the impact by way of varying the surface area of transfer of force, thus also varying the impact, sensation and attack response of the skin and so marking. And the important distinction between hand and similar sized implements is that of course we have direct control over the hand and it has far more possible configurations than any implement.

I think what you said about caning is also important, and in my limited experience applies as much to crops and similar instruments too. I've found its quite satisfactory to use what I think is what youre describing, basically clenching the hand to produce a swing, with such implements, to produce a reasonable sting that can be sustained, but not enough to lift someone from their feet - which I've also done, using the tennis racquet technique you mentioned! (Well, he did ask for it, silly boy LOL!). I also think its important to remember, that aside from the definite masochists who for goodness knows what reason like real pain (never understood it), that CP has as much a psychological effect as a physical.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/18/2007 6:15:57 PM   
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I've been told that if you soak your hand in salt water it will toughen it up so you can deliver harder hand spankings. Also, spankings hurt worse if the subjects butt is wet.

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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/18/2007 6:26:19 PM   
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Dear BeachMystress, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
True, you could use salt water to toughen up your hands however, most ladies fight hard to keep soft hands. 

Wet the buttocks, with a face/wash cloth may help add to the sensation of being more 'heavier' without the energy behind it.

 
I also cover in my Spanking101, that you can take a old leather glove and soak it in water then spank.  White wine works also but, for some reason red does not. 
 
In Spanking Clubs in England did use hair brushes, sole of a slipper, leather sole of a shoe.  Back then it was leather, not rubber or other materials.  However, I would lean towards use of brushes, hand mirror (mirror taped with masking tape please, just in case it breaks), tub scrubbing brushes and a razor strap for the straight razoer into the Victorian style of Spanking.  If not Victorian minded, its put into the paddle and strap classifications for impact play.
 
Parting the buttocks and spank a bit into the valley created also makes a nice sensation.  Normally it is closed so that can provide some fun.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: What are the key tricks for a stern femdom spanker? - 2/19/2007 11:51:33 AM   
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LadyHugs:

You are such a researcher in this area! Wow! Another type of femdom spanker call themselves 'punishment spanker', no warm up, they don't want to gradually ramp up the energy, and don't really let you fully appreciate sensation, but let you feel that you are punished for real, they do hard spanking from the begining, and finish up whenever they feel it is enough. Do you have experience or any thought on this? Will this psychologically more rewarding than regular warm up -ramp up spanking?

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