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ORIGINAL: Berefsky

Does anyone have any experience integrating D&S play with Taoist meditation and Chi-Gong?  The point of taoist meditation is submitting to a higher power, and many of the chi-gong practices are like bondage without ropes.

For years I've been practicing chi-gong, and for many more I've been fascinated by sexual submission.  I was wondering if others have tried this.

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

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ORIGINAL: onlythewindknows
humility can be a way to enter into a mild level of subspace if ya happen to have a kink that way. it can be very centering and almost meditative.

Hmmm. I can enjoy humility as a kink. And I have indeed felt meditative at times during attentive service. I have not thought about it before but I don't think it comes from humility. Perhaps it does and I don't even know it. Perhaps it comes from something else.

In any case, I do not know much about the concept you describe (service, humility, deconstructing the ego) through personal experience but have seen some discussions go by that have given me basic awareness of the idea. I recall one such discussion that presented the process you describe as a spiritual experience. Persons knowledgeable about the subject spoke of Buddhism and Eastern philosophies, and of bliss found in shedding the ego. The thread is on another site and I am unable to post it here. One of the responders recommended "reading Ramana Maharshi, the biography of Ramakrishna, and the trilogy by Ram Das."

Cheers,

Sea