Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable?

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SirDiscipliner69 -> Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 8:59:38 AM)
Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? Did you feel you were being set up for failure? Was the outcome to spank or discipline you when it could have been agreed to before hand and avoided the facade of a task? Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

MagiksSlave -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 10:22:33 AM)
OH wow.. Master would never ever set me up to fail like that. he knows that I take failure to heart and that I get frustrated with myself and in general when i cant do something that I am suposed ,he would never stress me out like that on perpose, and it would probubly be the end of the relationship if he perposely did this so he could punish me.. He knows he doesnt need any reason to spank me but that spanking as punishment hurts my heart and why would he want to do that when he could just hurt my ass by spaking me just becuase instead of forsing me to do something bad to earn it... Master and I enjoy the "punishment" sinareo when we scene but I dont have to have a punishment comeing because role play is so much more fun and doesnt envolve me feeling terrable about myself for haveing done something wrong!! Magik's slave

AquaticSub -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 10:35:05 AM)
I don't know what I would do if Valyraen set me up for total failure. I would probably wonder what I had done that was so wrong that he felt I needed to be taught such a harsh and painful lesson. And I would wonder what exactly the lesson was that I was supposed to be learning. If I was punished for failing on top of that, that would make it all the worse. I suspect there were would be tears involved on my part. I simply hope that a time never comes to pass when Valyraen feels such a thing is needed.

PoeticPrincess -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 10:40:48 AM)
Sounds like a bullying sort of tactic - or perhaps his way of testing you. If the relationship is generally good, you might talk about it. If the relationship is not really working, then this is a symptom of his disrespect and you need to talk or leave.

Wildfleurs -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable (2/18/2007 10:41:54 AM)
No - that would really just be a waste of my time. I think my owner's got better things to do with his time also then think up tasks that he knows I can't do. Now I've certainly had tasks that were difficult or more difficult than he thought or anticipated, but they were certainly do-able. C~

ownedgirlie -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 10:49:05 AM)
I have been given things to do which I insisted was not obtainable...............and then obtained it. So now when my Master says "Do it" I find a way to do it. He has never given me something I could not obtain. So far if something he has given me ended up not obtainable, it was due to outside forces beyond my control.

ShiftedJewel -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 11:02:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? Did you feel you were being set up for failure? Was the outcome to spank or discipline you when it could have been agreed to before hand and avoided the facade of a task? Ross ©º°¨¨°º© *Ross, I think I'm beginning to understand how you think and yes, that's scary to me too.* I can actually see some sub/slaves attempting to do what they know they can NOT do and being devastated when they fail. The lesson in that would be that they are not perfect, they are not able to do anything and everything that is asked of them. Another one of the lessons would be that they need to think realistically, communicate any and all issues they have concerning such a task BEFORE being bullhead and jumping in with both feet. I know way to many that just refuse to ask for help, particularly from their master or mistress... this lesson would be a good one to point that out. M/s and D/s relationships are, or should be, built on mutual trust, communication and respect. Trust your owner that there is a reason they ask this of you (maybe they want you to ask for help?), communicate your concerns about difficult tasks (maybe they want you to talk to them about your "need" to be the "all" for them?) and respect your own limitations. *Ok, maybe I read to much into things.. bad habit.* *Jewel*

PlayDate -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 12:13:25 PM)
I particularly like frustration. I like giving my all in the face of even what may be an impossible task. Often such unattainable goals are a Master's way of seeing what his sub or slave will do for Him, knowing beforehand that she will not accomplish this task. Hopefully, she still gives her all. That is her expression of His ultimate Dominance and of the seriousness of her servitude. It is all about the trial, the attempt.

viperess -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/18/2007 2:59:59 PM)
Greeting, Yes this has happened but low and behold i found a way to abtain the goal most of the time. Of course i could see the look in His eyes when i would finally get the task completed. There were the times i did not succeed and yes i was punished for it. Needless to say i am no longer with that Master...no not for that reason though. viperess slave of CTDOM4sub

Celeste43 -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/20/2007 1:41:10 PM)
He would never do this to me. He knows how devastating it would be to my emotions. And how destructive it would be to the relationship. Besides I don't get punished for failing, my job is to do my best and ask him for help when I need it. So if he told me to something I couldn't and then couldn't help me do it, the person responsible for failure would be him for not having thought it out ahead of time. As far as spanking me, if he wants an 'excuse' that's what role play is for. Naughty school girl gets punished for not doing her homework is hot. Deliberately destroying my trust in him is not.

littleone35 -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/20/2007 2:25:22 PM)
Master would never do this to me not even as a punishment. He always builds me up and he knows this would tear me down. He knows i always do my best to make him happy so he would never set me up to fail. Matt's littleone

BabyNyla -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/20/2007 2:31:31 PM)
I am in the middle of a punishment right now that I have until March 1st to complete and I feel that it might not be feasible. I am also wrestling with the thought that it might not be a deserved one that I should complete ... but that's a whole nother stress story to ponder. If I can't complete it and I get yet another punishment - I think I will have to go on subbie strike :\

czarlipet -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/20/2007 8:25:15 PM)
I have been given tasks that suited no real good purpose. I do know submissives/slaves who have been given taskes for the purpose of either making them think or for the dominant/master to learn how the submissive would respond to a given situation. I know a girl who was given the task of writing a 15 page document style paper in only 24 hours. Her master wanted her to try. He also wanted to know the reality of how she would react versus how she had told him she might react to certain situations. Instead of trying at all, she went onto a message board and complained for something like 23 hours and then went to bed. He learned a lot more by that task then he had in months of talking. I know a dominant who told his submissive she could have whipped cream on her cake but couldn't put the whipped cream on her cake. He wanted her to be able to think for herself. She complained and pouted and threw a hissy-fit and threw a tantrum. She never thought about asking the submissive next to her to put the cream on the cake for her. That dominant also learned a lot more in that task then he had in months of talking etc. Sometimes a futile task is not actually futile. Sometimes it is a tool. And sometimes it is a test. And sure, sometimes it could be demeaning, or bullying, or not a good thing at all. I have to believe that if the futile task gains us knowledge then it can't be all bad. Czarli

needdiscipline23 -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable (2/20/2007 10:21:13 PM)
I can't remember which other thread it was (maybe the most recent safe wording thread), where we were talking a little about redefining failure (or anything, really) by the dominant's definition, rather than the sub. It was the first time I'd considered that failure may be something other than what I define it, and unless given the option, I should not define it for myself, particularly not differently than how my dominant defines it. I think an exercise that seemed impossible to me--or was in fact impossible, might be a good way of teaching that, at least for me. I think it could be an excellent exercise for making the point to me that failure was what my dominant declared it to be, not me. Oh, and writing a 15 page paper in 24 hours--SO not impossible. I'm speaking from unfortunate experience there. :)

ownedgirlie -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/20/2007 10:49:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: czarlipet I know a girl who was given the task of writing a 15 page document style paper in only 24 hours. Her master wanted her to try. He also wanted to know the reality of how she would react versus how she had told him she might react to certain situations. Instead of trying at all, she went onto a message board and complained for something like 23 hours and then went to bed. He learned a lot more by that task then he had in months of talking. Only because I'm anal retentive - - There is on average 500 words per page in a Word document. 500 words x 15 pages is 7500 words. 1440 minutes in 24 hours. She would have to type as slowy as 5.2 words per minute to take up the full 24 hours. Even slow typers average about 20 wpm. That would take 6 hours and 15 minutes. But add thought process time, etc...say what - 4 hours or so (mine's usually about 2 but let's double it)? So realistically, if dedicated, I can't see it taking more than 10 hours to complete a 15 page assignment. I don't know why I had to figure that out, other than my OCD kicked in [:D]

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/21/2007 8:03:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Only because I'm anal retentive - - There is on average 500 words per page in a Word document. 500 words x 15 pages is 7500 words. 1440 minutes in 24 hours. She would have to type as slowy as 5.2 words per minute to take up the full 24 hours. Even slow typers average about 20 wpm. That would take 6 hours and 15 minutes. But add thought process time, etc...say what - 4 hours or so (mine's usually about 2 but let's double it)? So realistically, if dedicated, I can't see it taking more than 10 hours to complete a 15 page assignment. I don't know why I had to figure that out, other than my OCD kicked in [:D] LOL dork. It's not at all impossible- however if you want it to be well researched and sourced, it makes it a lot harder. If it just needs to have good flow and be 15 pages...that would take me 3-4 hours probably.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/21/2007 8:27:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross LOL dork. Heh.. Admittedly so. I'm just pointing out as I have learned (and re-learned) myself, that what seems impossible at first is often quite possible. And once you can achieve what you previously thought you couldn't....wow the world opens up!

canupleaseme -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/21/2007 9:00:52 AM)
I guess in the early stages of mmy relationship in role playing games we wanted him to have done something naughty and teasing him sexually and telling him not to get hard or else would always get him hard an impossible task but harmless for a spanking session play. Its hard to answer, my immediate thought on reading your thread was of silly little games like that. Then on reading others replies and seeing how others have percieved it I just cant think of any task i would want to set him that would make him feel bewlidered and hurt and upset with himself even though i made it impossible, I wouldnt want to play like that at all but thats just me.

painlovingsub -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/21/2007 9:51:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? Did you feel you were being set up for failure? Was the outcome to spank or discipline you when it could have been agreed to before hand and avoided the facade of a task? Ross ©º°¨¨°º© That has never happened to me. i personally do not like failure, therefore, i feel that would just be wrong (to set one up knowing they will fail). i actually hope that never happens to me because, as MagiksSlave said "i take failure to heart", and i would end up feeling really badly. frown

juliaoceania -> RE: Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? (2/21/2007 10:07:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Have you ever been given a task or goal that simply was known beforehand that was not obtainable? Yes, in my first D/s relationship on a couple of occasions quote: Did you feel you were being set up for failure? Yes quote: Was the outcome to spank or discipline you when it could have been agreed to before hand and avoided the facade of a task? The last time the outcome was that I became extremely disrespectful because he ordered me to do something outside the bounds of our relationship that I had never agreed to do. I was not collared and did not feel he had a right to demand this of me, which was basically he demanded I quit drinking coffee. We split up over it because I could not have complied had I wanted to, and I did not want to comply. Anyone that sets me up to fail can basically fuck off. Oh, edited to add, I would quit drinking coffee if I was collared and I was put in an environment conducive to doing so. But someone who is 2000 miles away demanding this with no support structure was setting me up to fail

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