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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:01:32 AM

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:05:01 AM

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I think the reason they say they were "forced" to is because they're still in the closet and too ashamed still to admit they did it of their own accord. And yes, I agree with you, it would solve a lot of problems. I guess some people are worried about being judged if they put themselves out there as bisexual. It's a common trend. I didn't come out as a lesbian right away either for fear of nasty looks and bad, unfair judgement of who I am. And I had a crush on my current fiance but never said anything (even though She'd already made it clear to me that She liked me) because I didn't know being a lesbian was okay. But when I eventually admitted to Her that I liked Her, She was so happy and now we're engaged and She's my Mistress and we have a wonderful relationship.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:27:28 AM

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I think the reason they say they were "forced" to is because they're still in the closet and too ashamed still to admit they did it of their own accord. And yes, I agree with you, it would solve a lot of problems. I guess some people are worried about being judged if they put themselves out there as bisexual. It's a common trend. I didn't come out as a lesbian right away either for fear of nasty looks and bad, unfair judgement of who I am. And I had a crush on my current fiance but never said anything (even though She'd already made it clear to me that She liked me) because I didn't know being a lesbian was okay. But when I eventually admitted to Her that I liked Her, She was so happy and now we're engaged and She's my Mistress and we have a wonderful relationship.

This only touches on the people who were "forced" into it. I have never denied that there are some people who are too nervous about their own sexuality and would prefer to be told to do it. However, this does not in any way negate the fact that there are straight people out there who will do homosexual/bisexual acts to please their masters or mistresses.

DBG's complete and utter denial of this fact, coupled with her insistence that all these people are liars unless they confirm to what she wants by listing this on their profile for all to see, is what is causing an issue here.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:49:07 AM

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I have to think that DBG hasn't considered that maybe many don't disclose a one time encounter with a memebr of the same gender is because they didn't feel it's all that important. Granted, many straights find it easier to say they were forced, some do have a curiosity and some don't feel safe to disclose a safe sex encounter. Yes there are many straight people who will engae in bisexual play because their mater or mistress ordered them to do so purely because they wish to please. The reasons are as diverse as the diversity of the human race.
From what I see from DBG, she is making a mountain out of a molehill and judging others by one person's omission or flaws is completely wrong, in my humble opinion.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:54:54 AM

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There is a problem with that theory, I have come to realize.

She turned her last man gay. Impossible since he was that way before I met or married him. He wanted the marriage to hide his sexual orientation. That's why he never refused sex before the marriage......he knew I might suspect something and end the relationship. Michael, homophobe extraordinaire, would be too scared that he may end up gay, or having to converse with men, to get married to this fine specimen. Very funny

Jes' giving a heads up.

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damn, DGB, can't believe you fucked up your own label. Your exhusband according to you before was BISEXUAL not gay, after all, we are assuming he actually got it up in your presence. I wonder what you have that would make him act another way. What do you have that is so special....and, if he was able to get it up before you were married, then YOU and only YOU had to be the cause of him not being able to get it up or fake it anymore,,,,that's your logic I believe. So, see, that's where everyone else got it, YOU turned him gay, he could get it up with a woman when he met you after all, but afterwards......hmmmmm

Edited to add: benji, I thought it was funny too

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 11:57:02 AM

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If these lesbians are seeking, they should specify in their profile that they have engaged in opposite sex acts. If male subs who are seeking identify as straight, they should specify in their profiles that they have engaged in same sex acts. If someone has undergone a sex change and is seeking, they should specify they were once another gender in their profile. Potential partners have a right to know these things before getting involved. Now if they are involved and/or not seeking, I would have to agree that it's nobody's business. The point I'm trying to make is that since there is more than one definition (yes, I realize that), a potential partner may not be familiar with both definitions, so people who are seeking need to be more specific if they have engaged in acts opposite of their stated sexual orientation.

What the hell is wrong with you. I could care less if my Mistress has slept with the ugliest , hairiest women, or the fattest nastiest men before she met me. That is her past. I am glad that you have such a perfectly clean past, no skeletons in your closet of any kind. Not that I find having sex with the same gender a skeleton as you do.

She has a hell of a skeleton, she slept with a bisexual(gay after he married her) man...I would think any other male homophobe would want to know that before he dives on her.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 12:18:43 PM

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two me doing anything together is just plain gross...women doing things is not...enough said.

No not Nuff said, you cant say why????YOU feel a certain way but you don't know why? Or is it because you can admit to 2 women because, except for folks like dbg, that is more accepted?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 12:34:50 PM

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two me doing anything together is just plain gross...women doing things is not...enough said.

No not Nuff said, you cant say why????YOU feel a certain way but you don't know why? Or is it because you can admit to 2 women because, except for folks like dbg, that is more accepted?

I agree. Double standard, with no logic to it.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 12:53:34 PM

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What we can't let go from the past, ends up controlling our present and our future. A truth that both dbg and michael are portraying quite well.

In order to let go of the past you must be:

self-aware
willing to change

See the problem?

Indeed it does require both of those things. i agree completely. Hence there being stuck.

*Editted because i can't type

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 12:54:32 PM

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I wonder, mainly because Ron is a twin, that if a twin accidentally or on purpose touched the other twins winky... does that make him bi or gay?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 1:01:21 PM

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What we can't let go from the past, ends up controlling our present and our future. A truth that both dbg and michael are portraying quite well.

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I cannot disagree more with this statement because it assumes that "letting go" of the past involves repressing or eliminating the memories of whatever it was that has now shaped who we are. I have dealt with things that happened to me in the past but that doesn't mean that it has no affect/effect (I never know which is right) on me whatsoever. I cannot change the past, but I can live with and change how the past influences me but I cannot simply remove that chapter from my life.

Some people never come to grips with whatever negative things that shaped them, it is a sad but true reality not a narrow minded, bigoted viewpoint although it can turn into that.

When i am talking about letting go, i don't in any way mean repressing or eliminating the memories of the past. i mean letting go of the anger and rage about the events of one's past. Forgiving those who have hurt you so that you don't stay a victim of those who have hurt you in the past.

i know you don't know me or my history, but i have had to do just that for a variety of events that have occurred in my life. i don't forget that they occurred. The events, once i let go of the hurt and my sense of being a continual victim, have made me stronger, hopefully more sympathetic to those around me.

So when i say letting go, i am definitely not talking about repressing, because repressing just buries the anger and hurt so that it just festers and destroys the person, it doesn't deal with anything.

Hope that clarified what i was trying to say.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 1:31:25 PM

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This thread is like a competition of the attention whores: michael vs dbg.. I see it as a deathmatch as they try to show who has more stamina and more hare brained ideas to toss out and beg readers to kick their teeth in.

When this thread runs it's course, I just hope they both join the family of polyamorous so we can step the show up to a higher level!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 1:56:49 PM

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I wonder, mainly because Ron is a twin, that if a twin accidentally or on purpose touched the other twins winky... does that make him bi or gay?

I believe somewhere back in the middle of this mess he wrote a long diatribe on this very thought.

edited because someONE and someWHERE are not interchangable......

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 2:01:05 PM

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I wonder, mainly because Ron is a twin, that if a twin accidentally or on purpose touched the other twins winky... does that make him bi or gay?

I believe someone back in the middle of this mess he wrote a long diatribe on this very thought.

If I am not mistaken, it was Ron himself.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 2:34:40 PM

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Alrighty then- You Hate ALL males
no wonder your messed up- your a male the very gender you hate so much

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 3:01:45 PM

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Yeah, as a matter of fact they do pay into the system. See the following messages from me.

Thank you for the info fmd, I recind my earlier post if that is possible. I guess you can learn something new and change your way of thinking...hint hint hint dbg.

Hey Mike, sorry to hear that you got the shit beat out of you by whomever, but by having these issues with all men is just letting them win over you even more. I am not saying that you need to go out and take it in the ass for the team, but you should get some counseling for the issue and you may find that the guys that don't want to beat your ass can make pretty good friends.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 3:06:13 PM

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This whole train wreck actually reminds of a patron at a bar where I worked for awhile, He was a semi- regular, though we had never spoke much, I thought rather well of him…

On slow rainy night, while I was polishing glasses (having run out of crosswords to do), Jacques came in and ordered his usual, and sat there drinking and visibly brooding. I asked why he seemed so down…

Today, I am fifty… this makes me sad.

Why? - Your health is good, you seem to draw the ladies, you make good money… What could make you blue?

It is this world, this terrible world… In my youth- I was a great athlete, and won a bronze medal in the Olympics for my nation in the hurdling- but do they call me Jacques the Hurdler? NO!

I joined the Foreign Legion, and served with distiction, I was awarded medals and retired with honors- DO they call me Jacques the Soldier? NO!

I went to school, and was graduated with honors from the Polytechnique… Do they call me Jacques the scholar? Of course, no…

I worked for many years as a Civil Engineer- I designed and built tunnels, public works- great bridges- but do they call me Jacques the bridge builder? NO!

But I suck one cock…

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 3:10:04 PM

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But I suck one cock…

Thank you so much for sharing this. It's quite lovely, though I suspect the point will be missed...

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 3:18:25 PM

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~sitting on the sidelines with a Xanax, a book, and her half-eye glasses~

This is better than reality tv. ('Course I don't watch tv.)

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/21/2007 3:25:50 PM

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