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SubbieHubbie -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/21/2005 4:27:04 PM)

I'd LIKE to call her Mistress because it hits a certain brain chemical for me. I DON'T call her mistress (unless in obvious joke) as its proving hard enough to get her to accept being dominant to me let alone using such a loaded word that she doesn't want. Besides, if your dom/me doesn't want it, how submissive would it be to use it?

Whoever above used the terms "lover" and "beloved" struck such a beautiful chord in my mind. They are at once the sweetest of words and contain a power dynamic in themselves (lover is an active verb, beloved is passive as a descriptive adjective: the lover controls acts of love on the beloved). Beautiful.




subcheryl -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/21/2005 5:56:15 PM)

Paganpet, my Master and I are the same way. At times he is totally Master, others he is daddy, and always in public, I answer with Sir, we live in Mississippi and I have even heard children respond with a yes or no sir, so it fits there, ( I am from Wis. so picked up on that from the start) but it all depends on what is going on at the time and that dirrects the way I respond to him. He is first my Master as it helps me, as my collar does, to keep me focused on what he is to me, Daddy is an endearing term we use, and again Sir is mostly for public use.




domtimothy46176 -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/21/2005 10:25:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subgreg


My question would be, "What do you do if each of you has a different perception of the weight/meaning of a particular title?" In our relationship. Ma'am and I each have a different opinion on the weight of the title Mistress. For reasons I do not really know, I do not identify the word as having a special significance. Ma'am, on the other hand feels it is very special. Where my problem lies is in the fact that I know my feelings for Ma'am. I am completely and thoroughly in love with her, utterly devoted to her, respect her for her will and her mind, and feel like I belong to her body, mind and soul. I don't think any one term adequately describes how I feel for her. She says we cannot take the next step until I figure out why a Mistress is special. Until it has meaning for me, she feels she is not my Mistress, only my Domme. If I already feel for her the way a sub would feel for their Mistress, but don't see the word in itself critical to those feelings, what do I do?


If I were in your shoes, I think my goal would be to learn that difference and internalize it. "fake it till you make it" comes to mind but, depending on how your mind works may have less relevance for you personally.
My girl has difficulty with the words 'slave and master' becuase of the sociological baggage they carry. We generally use the terms 'master and 'servant' as a compromise. This is a departure from where she started, however. In the beginning, she couldn't understand why 'master' carried the weight it does with me. Afterall it's only a word, right? What she has come to realize, over the course of time, is that it speaks to so much of who and what we are. I am the Master of the House, literally and in the historical sense of the phrase. Because she recognizes that she is no longer capable of exercising her right to leave, that at some point her consent to remain became a moot point, I am, by definition, her master, in fact. 'Master' is a verbal recognition of my stature as owner.
In contrast, 'sir' may embody all the love, respect and surrender in her soul, in her eyes, but it doesn't convey her utter "belonging", at least not to my ears. I knew we had turned a corner the first time 'master' escaped her lips, especially when she consciously guarded against using it again for weeks afterwards. I knew she had come to recognize that she was owned. She tried to avoid saying it again because there was a part of her that wasn't willing to accept that she would surrender herself so totally.
There's a reason why Master/Mistress mean something just as there's a reason why someone of the submissive persuasion might be disinclined to use that term in a relationship. Perhaps the key is inside your own mind.
Timothy




subgreg -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/23/2005 11:58:15 AM)

Thank you domtimothy46176 for your response. Faking it is not an ability I possess. I do not think it would be fair to either of us to do so. As to being disinclined to use the word, I am in no way so. For me the power of a word needs to develop and bond to what it is representing. I already feel utter devotion and belonging to Ma'am. I just need time to allow Mistress to grow and form around that bond that I feel for Ma'am so that the power behind it matches the power of my feelings for Her.




blueiii -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/24/2005 8:10:45 PM)

He is my Master, and here is how it came to be.

We reconnected with eachother after 20 years apart about 3 years ago. We had dated in college and it was a brief, but for me unforgettable, relationship. As we emailed eachother about our lives now, and flirted shamelessly, He made mention of what He would like to do with "a saucy wench like me." I jokingly at first answered one of His questions by saying "Yes Sire." He immediately told me that He rather liked that term and it began a verbal exploration of His dominant side and my inner submission. i believe it was a bit of an epiphany for each of us to realize that we could explore these traits together.

Now, He is my Master. i call Him Sire, because it is what pleases Him most. i recently asked for permission to call Him that at all times - even in public - and it pleased Him immensely. Occasionally He is Daddy, when specific situations call for that.

i completely agree with previous posts about "utmost trust." Sire has mine. He knows i would do whatever He commands.

blueiii




cailinTC -> RE: Why do you call him Master? (3/30/2005 11:43:06 PM)

cailin calls Him Master, because first of all, He has proven to Himself that He can Master Himself, and has. Second of all, He has proven that He can Master all of this girl, inside and out. He controls her body, her thoughts, her emotions, and pretty much everything else anyone can throw in there. The fact that this girl breathes to be at His whim might say something. Nothing is more refreshing knowing that this girl serves Him completely and He has her eating out of the palm of His hand.

~loving Him completely...
cailin




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