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Stephann -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 6:54:57 AM)

96,

I get what you're trying to say.  I will illustrate to you, that what you identify as the vanilla relationship underneath, is likely a common romantic relationship that you expect to have in your relationships with another submissive.  Many here will agree that the best romantic relationships have 'love first' and apply power exchange on that foundation of love.  I would suggest that is a lovely way to start in the lifestyle, and the premise of, say, Castle-realm.  It doesn't work for me.

My particular ideal of romantic relationships establishes the Master/slave dynamic first, and separately from the romantic entaglement.  The authority transfer is independant (as much as possible) from the emotional element; essentially I am making an intellectual assertion over my expectations of a relationship.  The slave can appreciate, enjoy, and grow within this framework, or she may choose a different partner.  Still, these are ideals and would necessarily be adjusted, depending on the woman I become involved in; I don't value BDSM or M/s 'over' love, I just have a good idea of how I wish the two to ideally mix.

Dear Lawrence,

I see where you are coming from as well.  I agree there is a power exchange involved in just about every relationship beyond mere acquaintences.  What I term vanilla, is when one of the people involved are not familiar with the terminology, or in being familiar with it they do not engage in behavior that represents either the roles or activities that are commonly found in a BDSM relationship.

With this in mind, a 1950s Ward and June may clearly be living a D/s lifestyle, but their lack of awareness of this interaction would term them 'vanilla' to me.  Supposing LA's mom (to springboard her example) was self-identified as a lifestyle dominant, this would not mean their relationship is kinked or D/s oriented; even as they are both aware of D/s or BDSM interactions, they would not make an active choice or effort to include or exhibit those roles and behaviors.  Self-awareness is a key componant, but I would imagine a couple who regularly uses crops, floggers, bondage, or other typical activities without any previous knowledge or exposure to the lifestyle, would still fall under the heading 'BDSM.'  So, knowledge of the lifestyle isn't necessarily a requirement, but people involved in these sorts of activities in their private lives, generally, are aware that they are engaging in behavior that is outside of the norm.  Thus, for me, Vanilla refers to the collective group of people who are largely ignorant (and content to be ignorant) of WIITWD.

Warm Regards,
Stephan




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 7:51:37 AM)

my relationship with Daddy grew from a vanilla one before gradually becoming a Daddy-daughter type of BDSM today. in my pov, one really cannot survive without the other since we connect on many levels that aren't BDSM related.  to Daddy and me, the sexual aspect of our relationhip can be compared to dessert in a 7-course dinner - there's more to our relationship than sex and spankings.  though it plays a minor role, we enjoy other things together which really makes my relationship with Daddy very unique and special.  granted we know not every type of BDSM relationship is like ours but it's our choice not to live our relationship openly for everyone to see or participate in BDSM-related events because He's a respected doctor in the medical community and it doesn't interest us to be a part of that.




Celeste43 -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 8:03:33 AM)

I interpreted the op's vanilla based comment to be in reference to the activities that fill up our hours. The zucchini I buy doesn't care if I'm serving it to a top or a bottom nor does the cashier when I pay for it. Same for laundry, I don't get down on my knees and thank his dirty underwear for the opportunity to wash them, it's a chore that needs to be done and I don't think anymore about it.

The other thing is that all relationships do need certain things to be successful whether power based or not. You both need to feel satisfied overall. You both should feel that your needs are met and your wants are taken into consideration. You need a way to communicate straight forwardly and without fear of reprisal when there is a subject of importance to be discussed. You need support in hard times etc.

M/s or not, if your mother was dying you wouldn't think it was a masterly think to do to throw a fit that you wouldn't be there sucking his cock the minute he got home because you were sitting at her bedside in the hospital. Some things really are universal to relationships.




domiguy -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 8:23:26 AM)

My relationships are usually oreos....the outside dark black surface (wiitwd) and the inside is a nice creamy delicious vanilla center.....mmmmmmm. The outside makes it enjoyable....But the vanilla center is what holds the damn thing together.......OREOS.....aauauuaaghhmmmmmmmmmm!

So as long as they meet one single dimension, then you find them acceptable?   Seems like an extremely small characteristic to base a relationship on(if it is a relationship...might depend on how picky you are as well).....I read it somewhere, or maybe my grandmother, Dommenique, told me that some women actually have brains and can possess a personality that in some cases are palatable for an extended period of time..........But to each their own.....

Also I really like girl oreos that fuck other girl oreos.




AZSweetie -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 8:44:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister

i'm not vanilla............ i'm blueberry

how dare you mix up my flavor!



LMFAO!!!

Ya know instead of me adding a few sprinkles to my vanilla goodies, i usually add a touch of vanilla to my mixed up batter!
Just for The Susy Homemaker effect![:D]

<------------NOT VANILLA!




Master96 -> RE: BDSM 101 (2/22/2007 9:40:16 AM)

Thank you very much people of CollarMe for posting [8D]

In the old days, and maybe still, people become slaves without any other choice. Homosapian has a very dark history of slavery. What I meant by "vanilla" in my post is that: you chose to be a slave/sub, you are happy, and you can break up from your owner, and you can not be submissive.

Again, thanx for your inputs... :)




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