Stephann
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ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou
Hey guys, I'm curious. This is a mind bender kinda question, i am addressing it to male slaves, but anyone feel free to give me an opinion, that's all you can have on this topic anyhow. Just trying to understand the mindset....
If you truly believe in Female Supremacy, that women are just better and meant to rule you poor weak males....how do you justify the fact that there are femal subs/slaves. Do you think only some females are worthy of being worshipped? Because i find with males who have this attitude that they are ready to immediately lie at my feet without even knowing me. A little insane in my opinion, but i'm a safety nut.
I guess i wonder where do you see these other women then? Still above you? Or somewhere else entirely....
Thanks in advance for the effort if you answer!!!
As a male, I'll see if I can shed some light here. I'm dominant, and don't believe in any sort of gender, racial, religious, or venutian supremacy of any sort. I'm going to put a disclaimer on this post; it's just my opinion. I doubt very much that men who believe in female supremacy will enjoy this post. I am prepared to be flamed, but please understand that I write this as an observer and I will gladly discuss any of the as politely as I can. I'm not psychologist, to boot, so, hell, I might be completely wrong in everything I say.
There's a conflict of social expectations here. Many people do not feel comfortable in positions of authority. A portion of these people see themselves as inherently flawed, weak, or incapable of taking care of themselves (emotionally, physically, etc.) It's like an extreme case of a lack of self-esteem. (I touch on this theme over on the Sex Offenders thread; the results are obviously very different, but the mindset is similar.) If interest, is that there is a large gap in the difference between the male submissive who believes he is inferior to females, and male submissives who believe themselves inferior to all people. In mentally asserting to himself, that all females are superior, he releases himself from responsibility in the relationship. We can see an example of this here.
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ORIGINAL: Lewis
I consider most submissive women as superior to me because most of them are actually quite strong and confident. The only reason why they choose to be submissive is because it gives them pleasure. And they know how to get this pleasure as well. I have to say that I read a lot of profiles of submissive women and some of them turn me on. Not because I imagine what it would be like to make them submit to me but rather because I realize that they are attractive and that I will never have sex with them. It is a bit like having to endure cuckolding.
Whatever happens to him, cannot be his fault; after all, he has surrendered all control, power, and authority (read responsibility) to the female. Thus, in surrendering to any (and every) female who crosses his path, he is freed from normal social constraints and consequences of his mistakes in pursuing said females. This isn't strictly sexually desire in nature; many of these men have no desire for sex. It's roots are usually sexual though, stemming from a lifetime of unhappy, unsuccessful, or unfulfilling relationships with women; this is why he believes himself inferior only to women.
My experiences with such men have been they have little interest in relationships with other men, of any kind. Thus, they don't really give much thought to why men might be dominant anymore than they give thought to why a cashier at McDonalds is working there. Because men don't fit their relationship goal equations, they are simply ignored. Female submissives, on the other hand, are seen as potential relationship partners in the same way as dominant women but only within the same (I'm certain the submissive women getting emails from these men can attest to that fact.) It doesn't matter how dominant or submissive the woman is; so long as she is willing to accept the relationship on the man's terms; that she bear the weight of responsibility for it's success or failure.
On a side note, this explains a bit why female subs don't understand many male subs; female subs tend to submit to only one person, male or female. They don't (usually) see any one sex as particularly superior or inferior, but rather see people emotionally, in non-sexual terms. I'm drawing very broad generalities here; obviously, there are women who suffer the same sort of social issues as their male counterparts. The issue here, is that men have traditionally been the dominant, and heterosexual. Male dominated television programming has had a huge impact on the way sex and sexuality has been portrayed, as a commercialization of that sexual drive. As suggested before, women would prefer to see a photo of a man with a woman, when the woman is smiling, than a photo of just a man smiling. It shows the man is capable of pleasing his mate, making him a more capable provider; and thus exactly the sort of man the female might desire. Fortunately, we have other factors to influence our relationship desires (mutual interests in music, food, travel, cultural issues, religion, politics, the list goes on.) Thus, women don't suffer the same taboos that men do in terms of their relationship choices; they aren't ostracized for their bisexuality. Men, on the other hand, face enormous sanctions for such admissions. These elements all derive back to evolution.
Seems I wrote a bit more than I had intended. My apologies again if I offended any; it is not my intention to do so.
Take care,
Stephan
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