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FiestyFi -> The art of submission... (2/22/2007 1:14:54 PM)

Hi,
 
I'm a newbie submissive seeking to fully understand the art of submission. I would like to know what qualities make a good submissive? what is about being submissive that you/we enjoy?
 
What pleasure does being a submissive give you?
 
If you could use any words to describe how you feel about submission what would they be?
 
I'd be really interested to hear what everyone thinks. Its a very open topic and I understand not every enjoys submission in the same way. Hopefully this should make for a interesting topic!
 
Love FiestyFi xx



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 1:28:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FiestyFi
 I would like to know what qualities make a good submissive?

Same things that make a good person.
 
quote:

 what is about being submissive that you/we enjoy?
It fulfills me.
 
quote:

What pleasure does being a submissive give you?

Self-fulfillment
 
quote:

If you could use any words to describe how you feel about submission what would they be?
innate orientation
 



hisannabelle -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 1:32:20 PM)

i think the primary thing that brings me joy as a submissive is that i'm doing what i'm supposed to do. i know that i would be unhappy in any other relationship situation, so as la said, it fulfills me because i get to fully be myself, as i am.

qualities that are important...ability to trust, lack of self-consciousness, confidence, self-awareness, ability to give time and care to yourself as well as your dominant (if you have one). i think that it's important to take all of those things into account even more than a lot of people do in vanilla relationships, but that's just because i've run into more issues with trust and self-consciousness as a submissive than i ever did as someone's vanilla girlfriend. ;) it's different for everyone, though.



SusanofO -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 1:33:49 PM)

I love the feeling of being protected and also just plain dominated, and I also love the idea tha I am making (hopefully) someone else happy, and pleasing them.

- Susan



completenz -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 2:09:16 PM)

hi
what does being a submissive mean to me? i spent decades living a lie in a purely vanilla marriage. i finally broke free- i just couldn't live the lie anymore. Then i found Him!!!  How do i feel now, at peace and so very very happy. i am where i belong, with Him. i love His control, and the way it feels when i please Him. i especially love the feeling of His protection, i am safe and finally able to be what i need to. The love that we share is stronger than anything either of us has felt before.
i feel blessed
c



chickpea -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 2:18:06 PM)

It is the pleasure you get from devoting all your actions to and seeing all of someone's needs and desires being fulfilled.  Hopefully with the right person or someone you care about.  



goodpet -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 2:18:16 PM)

Wow what an open ended set of questions.

The power exchange relationship touches me in different levels and meets different needs. 

Physically it is just plain hot to submit and be taken and feel the power of His body and strenght. There is a comfort in being wrapped up in His arms and taken care of. There is a release in being pushed to my breaking point, reduced to tears and shaking and then to be tenderly put back together.

Mentally there is peace in feeling like i belong to something more then just me. That i have a place and serve more then just my needs. My abilities are not only appriciated in a different way then the vanilla world does but they are valued and trusted more also. My efforts make a personal difference. while i may often work or serve in the background it does not go unnoticed by my Master.

Spiritually there is a grounding i feel from the M/s relationship. together one two is more then two ones can be. (how's that for being clear?)
i feel a peace and comfort in knowing i belong with someone. We say i belong to Him but it is really more a with Him. We travel life journy together and my place is with Him makeing it work together. We each do what we do best to make the 'We' work and make our life together better.

good questions



littleone35 -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 2:55:47 PM)

Well i am a submissive but not just anyones His he call me HIS good girl it make me happy to see him smile know i have pleased him.

What do i love? The feeling of being safe protected and yes cherished and loved.

Matt's littleone



Obsidiansnamaste -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 4:34:56 PM)

This is from my old 360 blog :


"Why slavery?


Recently i was asked what is it that motivates me to turn total control of my life and self over to Another. The one asking made several statements that indicated he thought i must have low self esteem, or be lazy, or just have a fear of making my own decisions. i corrected His incorrect assumption. However his questions kept echoing through my mind...what is it that compels me...to be a slave? Why am i what i am?  Granted there doesn't have to be an answer. i realize that i'm hard wired in this way. i have had vanilla relationships, egalatarian relationships in which i was not fulfilled. My partners didn't always make me miserable, but i found myself always wanting to submit, always seeking to find the Dominant button to push. Thats not healthy for anyone. Not for them and not for me. At this point in my life i'm self aware enough to realize what fulfills me. i love myself enough to embrace that same thing. Why fight it?  To me it is the equivalent of attempting to fight the hand of the Divine. He created me thusly.  With Master i am able to be all that i am, without hiding or pretext, without attempting to find a way to make it more palatable. He's strong enough to handle my fire,  to direct it without extinguishing it. Although some say submission is a gift (and i can see merit in that statement),  being able to revel in my slavery...is a gift as well. To let go and simply be. To need to please Him more than i need my next breath...seeking ways to do that... To feel no shame at the desire to please, the need to serve. To not have to hide those things behind a facade. To be drenched by the joy of kneeling at His feet, to beam in pleasure when He says "good girl" ...to humble myself under Him...without apology or regret. When one is submissive at heart, even if there is a momentary struggle to obey...there is a great freedom like a weight off of my shoulders when i conquer that and surrender to His will. The freedom to do that is cleansing. The struggle comes from fighting my own internal critic, years of societies training... that say "have it your way!" But i'm a slave...and in obedience i *am* having it my way...being who i was made to be.  So back to the original question...why am i a slave? i'm a slave because i am fulfilled under His control, i'm a slave because serving Him is food to me, and His desire is my drink. i'm a slave because my heart overflows when i know i've done something to please Him...because His control is total, His word is Law . i accept the title of my slavery as an external manifestation of what i am...of who i am. i am owned, i belong to Him, His authority over me is accepted and not something i fight against. i am His, i belong to Him...He is Master..."



juliaoceania -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 6:13:45 PM)

quote:

I'm a newbie submissive seeking to fully understand the art of submission. I would like to know what qualities make a good submissive?


This is something that you will have to ask dominant types, I think that different people have different ideas of the qualities they find make a good submissive.

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What pleasure does being a submissive give you?



This is not so easy to answer. At times it is sexual pleasure. I get pleasure just from thinking about how we interact with each other. I get pleasure from his company. I do not think that there is pleasure in being a submissive outside of him to be honest. Submissiveness is part of me, it is like asking me "What pleasure do you get from having blue eyes", well none unless someone else is enjoying them.

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If you could use any words to describe how you feel about submission what would they be?



Fulfilled




FukinTroll -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:25:46 PM)

Oh heck! I thought there was going to be pictures.



sublizzie -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:31:10 PM)

Poor, Troll. If you look under each person's nick there is a picture. Does that help?



FukinTroll -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:33:11 PM)

But as attractive as your flower is.... I ain't get'n no wank out of it.



sublizzie -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:34:56 PM)

Guess you'll just have to go see my corset then, eh?



FukinTroll -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:36:01 PM)

Already did.

OUCH!!! Hand cramp!



sublizzie -> RE: The art of submission... (2/22/2007 7:38:16 PM)

LOL. Hope your hand gets better soon.....



agirl -> RE: The art of submission... (2/23/2007 3:51:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FiestyFi

If you could use any words to describe how you feel about submission what would they be?
 
Love FiestyFi x



Life with a Lion

While I was still a child, and free ,and bold,
I had a Lion. I didn’t choose Him, nor He me.
Some uneventful happening put a Lion in my path
And the journey I call my life began from then.
Sometimes I didn’t notice Him, nor hear His roar,
Or even know how much I missed that sound.
The padding of His paws, His movements,
Accompanied me, as I played and ignored
The grown–up things that I should do.
Only His claws, unsheathed, marking my skin,
Reminded me, that He was only pretending to play with me.
His shaggy coat was rough against my skin
And His roar could interrupt my playful thoughts.
I used to run and never look behind, neither ahead,
Choosing gazelles and bison as my friends.
And when they sped away, leaving me in dusty plains
Alone and crying, I would feel His breath and teeth
As He shook me to my feet and dragged my skin and bones
Along His path, paying no attention to the grazes.
Until laying, with wet upon my face, and flushed,
His tongue would clean my wounds.
The swipe he gives me as I run out to play again
Leaves a sweet bruise upon my shoulder.
A Lion in my life is a musky odour
That fills my nostrils when I clench my eyelids tight
Clinging to his mane as he walks away.

agirl







SimplyMichael -> RE: The art of submission... (2/23/2007 7:56:25 AM)

To ME, these are the qualities I look for:
quote:

I would like to know what qualities make a good submissive?


A full and rich life of her own
Intelligence, worldliness, education, being well read
An understanding that she and I are unique and what we create together will be a blend of each of us.
A willingness to be self aware
An understanding that I am human and therefore imperfect - an understanding of the difference between expectations that someone will work hard to do well and an unrealistic expectation of perfection.







Celeste43 -> RE: The art of submission... (2/23/2007 8:05:12 AM)

It entirely depends on the relationship. Quiet and demure might be one dom's idea of heaven but would bore the next one. Service turns some on, and others prefer to be independent and have the sub's time be spent talking to him rather than doing dishes.

Find someone you are compatible with. Be totally honest with yourself and with him as to things you love, you hate, you fear and the inbetween. Find someone you can trust and have a strong connection with. And improve your communication skills.



Mercnbeth -> RE: The art of submission... (2/23/2007 8:26:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FiestyFi
I would like to know what qualities make a good submissive?

 
the same qualities that make for a good dominant:
self-awareness, confidence, open mind and heart
 
quote:

what is about being submissive that you/we enjoy?
What pleasure does being a submissive give you?

being submissive or being a submissive, in and of itself, does not bring this slave joy.  embracing it, expressing it and celebrating it brings pleasure to both Master and His slave.
quote:

If you could use any words to describe how you feel about submission what would they be?

it is a very subjective and individual experience.
 
some find joy in their struggle, some find joy that there is no struggle
some submit to a select one or few, under certain conditions or not at all, while some submit to all that cross their path
some find it effortless, as natural as breathing and some relish the difficulty and are satiated with triumph over conquering the unnatural feeling
some live submissively 24/7 and for some it is a part of their varied schedule
some find it a positive, uplifting experience and some are sickened and repulsed at the mere thought of submission
 
all of the above also include varying degrees of
in-between
 
very few, if any generalizations can be accurately made about "a" submissive, or "submission" other than the obvious requirements for oxygen, liquid, nutrients and something, some ideal or someone to submit to.



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