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When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 5:10:26 PM   
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Several have mentioned to me that i sound experienced.  i've read a lot and learned a lot about the lifestyle and myself.  i've learned from this forum, as well as, chatting with others.  i feel that i have a good grasp on what i am interested in and what i am not interested in. 
 
i just do not have any real time experience yet.
 
does that mean i am more knowledgeable than a newbie and should consider myself experienced?  am i misrepresenting myself?  when is a newbie no longer a newbie?
 
maybe it's time to change my profile.
 
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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 5:24:24 PM   
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quote:

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Several have mentioned to me that i sound experienced.  i've read a lot and learned a lot about the lifestyle and myself.  i've learned from this forum, as well as, chatting with others.  i feel that i have a good grasp on what i am interested in and what i am not interested in. 

i just do not have any real time experience yet.

does that mean i am more knowledgeable than a newbie and should consider myself experienced?  am i misrepresenting myself?  when is a newbie no longer a newbie?

maybe it's time to change my profile.

You're very experienced and educated in the theory of it all.

Newbie is definitely up to you to decide your place.  Perhaps saying "No real time yet, but lots of background" will suffice.

No matter what labels a person puts out there, we all have to explain it in detail when we strike conversation.


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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 5:27:14 PM   
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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 5:27:21 PM   
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Depends on what you are talking about. I don't know anything about needle play, I would consider myself a newbie to flame play and while I don't consider myself an old hat to anything yet (still too little experience) I wouldn't call myself new to floggers, spankings, violet wands, etc.

If you want to change your profile to reflect what you know go for it. The problem is that knowing something and actually experiencing it are quite different and provide you with different views on things. For example: I always knew what a spanking was, most everybody does. I know how it felt as a child, but until a proper one was given to me I had no idea how pleasurable it could be. If someone had asked me before then about spankings, I might have advised against it. Of course I couldn't imagine who would have asked me about anything BDSM then, but hey. You never know!

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 5:49:52 PM   
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He dips His lid,

L/A said it well.

It may be that you were like myself, and many others upon entering BDSM that is;

Your thoughts and your actual Lifestyle are in snyc with the ethics behind BDSM.

For example, lots of Dom/mes can hold a sub's hair, say sweet dominating pleasures but it is the 'experienced in life experiences' that  can communicate this in 'presence' not by simply resorting to the use of words.   I believe this is why I was offered so much assistance by Real-life Doms when I began getting  out. The rest is leaps and bounds.

I must admit I was surprised by your initial post as it so clearly speaks of quite an extreme end of BDSM that is difficult to understand.

Having a slave,sub does not mean they are less than you- you are meeting their 'base' needs just as they are for you- otherwise this 'dynamic' that is spoken about is fantastic dribble where you will never find what others speak of.

Seeing/observing others in unison  at munches/play teaches more in minutes that weeks or (possibly more) can do in months.  

Honesty to yourself n' others- plus willingness to improve yourself are(what I believe) essential ingredients to furthering yourself, not just in 'Lifestyle' but in all areas of your life.

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 6:13:09 PM   
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Sorry, I missed a huge point,

If you keep 'posting' you'll become twisted, evil (I like) and deranged.   Deranged is impressive but could all be theory!

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 6:15:27 PM   
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i think it's really largely self-defined. i'm new to some things, and not new to others...i consider myself somewhat experienced at 24/7 d/s, but fairly new to a lot of s/m techniques, and completely uneducated about public play, etc. a lot of people will be more experienced in some areas than others. i think having some real-time experience is necessary just to make sure that you click with the theoretical experience you have, but reading and talking it out is very important.

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 6:50:32 PM   
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i concider myself to be a newbie...probably becasue i never cease to be surprised and each day I learn someting new abotu some new kind of activity or some new philosophy...lthough i am nearly 41 years old I also concider myself to be a girl.

so whwn it comes to making a determination about newbie status....i believe that i shall always feel like a newbie...I feel that this little lady will alwasy feel a need to know more and always feel that i am no where near an expert in most things BDSM related....

if you wisht o discuss anyting relaed to maernal/child or hospice nursing then I am not a newbie...butpretty much nearly everything else in the world im a newbie in life!  and that is mearly my look at things

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 7:38:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: subdelicious

Several have mentioned to me that i sound experienced.  i've read a lot and learned a lot about the lifestyle and myself.  i've learned from this forum, as well as, chatting with others.  i feel that i have a good grasp on what i am interested in and what i am not interested in. 
 
i just do not have any real time experience yet.
 
does that mean i am more knowledgeable than a newbie and should consider myself experienced?  am i misrepresenting myself?  when is a newbie no longer a newbie?
 
maybe it's time to change my profile.
 



I was a novice for 2 years after I fully discovered my orientation toward submissiveness. I count this time as the time I knew there was more than a sexual element to my submissiveness and I began to research and read about what this meant.

I talked with a dominant over this time, we did meet in real life also. I did not consider myself a novice after that relationship was over because basically I not only learned all I could about this intellectually, but I also had a real relationship that involved D/s as a core aspect to it.

I have been seeing my Daddy for almost 10 months, and I am only counting from the time we met in the real world, not the time we spent getting to know each other online. I still consider myself to be a newbie. I do not know when I will feel I am not one to be honest. I know there are some people that claim years of experience that I have not much respect for, and others that have very little that I have a world of respect for. I do not think it is bad to be a newbie, nor do I think that this means that a newbie has no insight and wisdom to bring to relationships and to discourse.

Hope that my experience was helpful

Edited to add that I started investigating BDSM when I was 35 and I will be 39 next month, and still feel like a noob

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 7:44:16 PM   
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I'm an old sub / new slave.

Ok ... so now the question is ... how old is old?

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 7:54:46 PM   
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I have been involved in this lifestyle r/t for two yrs now. I have tons of play experience and tend to play to the extremes and on the edge. Yet I still consider myself a reletive newbie. I have just recently entered my first 24/7 M/s relationship. And although I had read lots and took the time to know myself and to educate myself. Nothing could of prepared me for the reality of a 24/7 M/s relationship. It is so much harder then I though it would be but it is also way more rewarding then I ever thought possible.

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 9:20:55 PM   
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I loved this question.

I have read a tremendous amount (even for me) about various bdsm practices (but certainly not all of them), but I've only had one real-life bdsm relationship, for a little over a year, and it consisted mostly of spanking, and having belts and straps used on me. There is so much I've never done in real-time, that I still consider myself a (relative) "Newbie." 

But I have read a lot, and seem interested in a tremendous variety of stuff (more than some who've been doing "real-life" stuff for years, maybe) so - whatever. I think it's a label, and if its relevant, it's probably only really relevant to your partner (or could-be partner).

- Susan

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 9:36:17 PM   
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 when is a newbie no longer a newbie?
 


She is no longer a newbie after she has fucked LaM.



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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 9:40:46 PM   
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Glad to hear I'm not the only *newbie* around here. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/22/2007 9:54:13 PM   
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after 4 yrs of  "discovering" this side to me, i still consider myself as a newbie because my 2 former Masters never took it upon themselves to mold and shape me like Daddy is currently doing today.  it was more like a vanilla kinky sex than having a real D/s relationship. Yet, He's not a bit surprised that after 6months i'm very eager to learn more about me and my submissiveness.

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/23/2007 2:51:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hisannabelle

i think it's really largely self-defined. i'm new to some things, and not new to others...i consider myself somewhat experienced at 24/7 d/s, but fairly new to a lot of s/m techniques, and completely uneducated about public play, etc. a lot of people will be more experienced in some areas than others. i think having some real-time experience is necessary just to make sure that you click with the theoretical experience you have, but reading and talking it out is very important.


I agree totally on your description, that is how I feel too. Add to the confusion, if I did not grow, in practice,to the relationship. Perhaps I did the same limited service to my Dominant. But it was an extended period of time....we all have different experiences.
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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/23/2007 6:42:30 AM   
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I think we are probably all "newbies" at certain experiences.  However, I don't think I'd refer to myself as experienced until I'd had some real time experience with a dominant.  I am a born submissive I imagined it since I was a little girl and fantasized about it my entire life and read everything I could get my hands on but when I actually had my first experience I learned so much that I would have never known from reading.

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/23/2007 10:44:58 AM   
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Newbie is such a generic term, and like most terms in the lifestyle, you can rarely find two people who can agree what it means. To my way of thinking, a newbie is someone with no experience, theoretical or practical.

Someone who has taken the time, like you, to do a lot of reading and research is not a newbie by my standards. They may be lacking in practical experience, but their knowledge base is extensive. I think we need a new term none of us can agree on. How 'bout UberNewbie?!?!?!?

Hope that helps!

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/23/2007 12:17:59 PM   
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i have read a lot and talked to people but my experience is low...so i consider it like we have a college degree, but we just haven't gotten hired yet haha

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RE: When is a newbie no longer a newbie? - 2/23/2007 12:59:54 PM   
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'People' say you sound relatively experienced and you think you should change your profile/drop the 'newbie' status. Titles and terms are just that, such as a sub calling herself a slave, so as to better 'fit in' or to appear more attractive to dominant men. Whatever title/term you choose, the important thing is that it reflects honesty. A sincere, dominant man will always appreciate it, as will you.
 
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