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masterdanl -> Tributes (2/23/2007 3:13:22 PM)

I find it VERY offensive when a Dom/Domme ask for tributes. In My opinion they are nothing but pimps corrupting the lifestyle. They are nothing more than vultures trying to take advantages of naive subs. What are your thoughts on this?



stef -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:15:42 PM)

*yawn*

~stef



SimplyMichael -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:16:01 PM)

I have charged women for sex and despite all my attempts, I have yet to pull off getting paid to top a woman.  I would love to be the first male pro-dom.



RWAble -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:17:22 PM)

I feel that it reflects badly on all the Wonderful Ladies out there.
And I have no pity for subs that send tribute.
The brain is a wonderful organ, when used properly.

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdanl

I find it VERY offensive when a Dom/Domme ask for tributes. In My opinion they are nothing but pimps corrupting the lifestyle. They are nothing more than vultures trying to take advantages of naive subs. What are your thoughts on this?



BeingChewsie -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:22:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdanl

I find it VERY offensive when a Dom/Domme ask for tributes. In My opinion they are nothing but pimps corrupting the lifestyle. They are nothing more than vultures trying to take advantages of naive subs. What are your thoughts on this?


Naive subs? Amazing how adults who hold down jobs, pay rent or mortgages, make car payments(Heck drive for that matter), shop, make all kinds of decisions every day..good ones even..suddenly become naive prey for men or women wanting tribute?? Such nonsense. I have no sympathy for people who send strangers money. You don't even need an IQ above room temp to know THAT is generally a bad idea.



Driver1961 -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:35:43 PM)

He dips His lid;

Good comment masterdanl! 

I've always considered the Dommes asking for tributes are on their own headtrips as part of their domination of the weak male, exploiting the weaknesses in male they seek to prop up their own sense of identity- which could be healthy or unhealthy for the domme but likewise the sub male is finding an avenue to exploit their own weakness too- also healthy or unhealthy.   This healthy or unhealthy aspect is difficult for me to judge- except to say it would be unhealthy for me if I was a sub-male. I  have questioned the ethics behind these transactions- yes it's prostitution, but it's up front and clear.

Then we have male Doms, partic some Masters that do take forms of tributes by having full control over a slaves finances- this could be unhealthy tributes- eg it's the slave's birthday so He buys a new car for himself so she can have sole use of His older car,; but generally I doubt this inbalance would occur? (Others educate me with first hand experiences?) Again- Healthy vs unhealthy for the participants.

Tributes really are forms of payment for services rendered and if I transact in this- then I consent to it.

I could say that tributes is honesty in gift giving?




SirDominic -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:42:33 PM)

I'm a little unclear what you mean by tributes. Do you mean ProDommes who sell their services for payment? I don't think it is healthy or unhealthy. It just is another version of the lifestyle. If there wasn't a demand, they wouldn't get clients.

Namaste, Sir Dominic



hereyesruponyou -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 3:59:01 PM)

I keep hearing about these....tributes....what i wanna know is how do i get that?  ok, not seriously....you have to ask yourself why would these subs feel the need to stoop to the level they have to pay just to get people to talk to them when there are people like me who will talk to anyone as long as they are polite and semi-literate....



subfever -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:01:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdanl

I find it VERY offensive when a Dom/Domme ask for tributes. In My opinion they are nothing but pimps corrupting the lifestyle. They are nothing more than vultures trying to take advantages of naive subs. What are your thoughts on this?


It depends.

Would I consider sending a tribute to prove my sincerity, or some other nonsense? No.

Would I consider paying a tribute to a ProDomme who I'm highly attracted to, and who will bring all of my innermost desires to fruition? Sure, it would be worth it to get it out of my system!  

You've been here for over 3 years, and this is your first post... so it must have some meaning for you.



domiguy -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:05:56 PM)

It would seem since this is probably bordering on prostitution......that there could be a seperate section for prostituting/tribute demanding Dommes....That way the poor little male subbies would know just where to look if they are "Jonesing" and need their fix....It is probably victimless...But many activities that are technically "victimless" are still illegal. If a woman is willing to accept money to do one act she can be paid enough to do many!!!



gandalf0297 -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:07:30 PM)

Please pay your tributes to P.O. box 65. Sub city ,USA............No?..............DAMN!!
Will take Gold in lew of cash............Nope?  Can't say  I didn't try[;)]



moki1984 -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:08:23 PM)

i know a mistress here personally that gets money to keep her website going...i dont personally see anything wrong with her doing that...if their willing to pay then thats their decision.



domiguy -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:12:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: moki1984

i know a mistress here personally that gets money to keep her website going...i dont personally see anything wrong with her doing that...if their willing to pay then thats their decision.


So how much does it take to keep a site running?..I would imagine that she is being paid for more than her site...Hmmm?...What else do men pay women for?



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:18:07 PM)

First off, I'll call Stefs yawn and raise her a stretch.

Second, there really are two versions of tributes.  One is concept of giving tribute to someone/something you admire and want to commemorate, want to worship with your sacrifice, want to give back for the glory they have given to you.

The other is a euphemism for money for play.  This euphemism mostly came about IMO due to the stupid laws that don't allow people to openly exchange money for sexual acts.

Personally, I've given and received BOTH TYPES of tribute in my life.

You want to call me offensive, say I'm somehow degrading you and/or this whole lifestyle, you want to suggest I've got some nefarious underhanded scheme around to make people miserable, well that's your business.

But I do what I do and it works well for me.  I'll even posit that there are a heck of a lot more male doms who promise to "consider" a sub and then leave her out to dry versus female con artists who ask for money and don't deliver.

For some reason we still villify women who choose to employ their services in exchange for money, even when on a site like this we supposedly glorify the consent and informed choice of all responsible adults.



Vendaval -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:29:59 PM)

The link to the Professional Services Forum -

http://www.collarchat.com/forumid_40/tt.htm


quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
that there could be a seperate section for prostituting/tribute demanding Dommes....



Vendaval -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:31:42 PM)

I have heard this from several male Dominants. 
It's all in the supply and demand sweetheart.  [:D]
 
"I'm just a gigolo, and everwhere I go, people know
 the part I play...."


quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
I have charged women for sex and despite all my attempts, I have yet to pull off getting paid to top a woman.  I would love to be the first male pro-dom.



Vendaval -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:35:54 PM)

I will go from a yawn and a stretch to scratching my back in those
hard to reach places. 
 
This subject gets beat to death every 2-3 weeks or so.
On the bottom of this page in the right hand corner
is a box marked "Search".
 
Here is the link to the first hit on "Tributes" in the
General BDSM Discussion Forum.
 
http://www.collarchat.com/searchpro.asp?phrase=Tributes&forumid=20&timeframe=%3E&message=both&topicreply=both&timefilter=0



BigBeninLA -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 4:57:52 PM)

All subs who wish to pay me tribute in exchange for being ignored--you worthless worms! you think you deserve my attention?--may contact me.  Hey, I'll accept tribute from Dom/mes and switches, too, who have a craving to be ignored; why limit myself?  ka-ching!



AquaticSub -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 5:06:16 PM)

Frankly, I don't see why everyone gets up in arms about tribute. You don't like it, don't pay it.

Some people get off on having their money controlled. Some people get off on controlling money . Whatever floats your boat and makes you happy as long as the bills are getting paid and children aren't being deprived.

Personally I don't feel the need to pay tribute to a dominant. So I gave my submission to a dominant who isn't interested in getting tribute. Very simple.

Edited cause I can't type



AAkasha -> RE: Tributes (2/23/2007 5:06:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterdanl

I find it VERY offensive when a Dom/Domme ask for tributes. In My opinion they are nothing but pimps corrupting the lifestyle. They are nothing more than vultures trying to take advantages of naive subs. What are your thoughts on this?


I would love to pay a male sub (a walking fantasy, from the equipment he owned to his gorgeous face and body!) to give me exactly what I want and need and to go away when I'm done with him.
Sadly, they are hard to find.
Supply and demand.

Akasha




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