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MsBlkDom -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 5:19:50 PM)

This is something the two of you have come to terms with over a period of TWO years, not two days, two weeks or even two months! 

The best of everything on this new milestone in your relationship!!!

There appears to be a lot of judging passing as opinions or advice in this thread.




VeryMercurial -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 5:27:45 PM)

BH? now that is funny, maybe she needs to tell him to stop chasing you also.




MASTERSTEEL -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 5:30:43 PM)

Yeah who knows what might happen if he caught me smiles...BH




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 5:33:54 PM)

maybe he would have raped you....




MyJourneyslave -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 6:05:26 PM)

BountyHunter:
That is a lie, and you know it.  I do not suck cocks. That is your job. 
For the rest of you, I love my cb3000.  If I had listened to people here, I would never have   used it.  That would have been a grave mistake. 
The original post was only to inform.  It is a shame you all cannot accept that.  Bounty Hunter you are a very sick puppy.  Don't mess with me.
That is pretty much a wrap on this post. I am sick of people telling other people they need help.  What a lame excuse for a lifer some of you are.

Respectfully,  Mistress_Jan

Post is closed. Collarme, please remove this thread. 




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 6:46:00 PM)

Awww come on...this thread illustrated a great point and was very funny!

Getting rid of other Dommes has to be done. 

I trust my sub completely....but I still had to stop other women thinking it is OK to challenge my authority by writing to him.

 These other women didn't even want him (if they did, they would have him - not me) but that never stopped some Dominant women from being jealous when her hapless suitor actually finds someone else.

Now, you can control your sub, but you cannot possibly control other Dominants.  This kind of thread is just a red rag to those bulls!

Instead, my sub was ordered to tell these other women that all messages from them would be given to me and all his responses copied to me.  I am his Dominant and do not want any relationships continuing with other Dominants unless I say they can.

These other women WENT NUTS!!!  They rang him - I cooly answered the phone.  They emailed - I invited them to dinner with my sub and I so we could become friends.  Needless to say, they declined the polite invitations

They wrote to my sub in a fury of insults and threats.  he was so upset I answered for him....inviting them nicely to come meet us as a couple.

They didn't even want him - but they still wanted him to be at their beck and call.  Such is the nature of some Dominant women

I call this phase "site clearance".  You MUST get rid of the circling vultures.  No ifs, not buts.  If a Domme wants to be friends with your sub, she has to be friends with both of you.

And remember...they always come back a few weeks later and try again!  Beleive it or not, they start testing to see if your relationship is wobbly yet and they can lure your sub into breaking the rules and writing to them secretly.  It gives them a thrill to challenge you and your relationship.  It is nothing to do with wanting your sub.  There are ample sub males : they only want the ones that are taken.

Go for it SC.  Mark your territory and ban your sub talking to other Dominants.  They can like it or lump it.  There is no other way to control this problem - as evidenced by the fact you still have this scourge after 2 years in a D/s relationship




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 6:49:09 PM)

Girl you want to cat fight in our email then turn around and block me.you are such a slut a wantabee that doesn't know how...I play ruff are you ready...bounty




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 6:59:19 PM)

Oh and obviously if your sub objects to getting rid of all his Dominant female "friends", then you have a serious problem.

 I have all my subs passwords and full access to his cell phone and house.  He goes to work but must answer the phone when I ring (no matter what!) and tell me where he is.  I may go there to check.  I can visit him at the office, at his parents.....anywhere, any time

he wears his CB2000 whenever he is not with me (at work, at the gym etc)

Am I insecure?  No!!  I could replace my sub in less than an hour if I wanted to and I know he adores me

Am I controlling?  Yes.  Does he feel every minute of every day I control him?  Yes

Do other women threaten our relationship?  No.  You need to put harsh measures in place SC.  You will be adored for it.




BabyNyla -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 7:06:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

He goes to work but must answer the phone when I ring (no matter what!) 

 

 
Hmmm ... if Daddy required this of me ... and I was in the middle of an observation at work (as we have 6 a year) and was required to answer my cell ... I think I would suddenly be unemployed. ... thank goodness he is a sensible Daddy.




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 7:17:04 PM)

Luckily my sub works as a lawyer - he can always say it is an important client call and walk out of his meetings.  he texts me if I ring the mobile and he is on a conference call on the land line.  I can ring the land line to verify that is correct.

Only tricky bit is when he is on aeroplanes.  But he tells me when he is flying and I can check if I really want to.

If he does not answer (say, left the phone in the car), he gets punished. he has never been punished because he never lets me down :)

But of course rules have to be adjusted to your own sub's circumstances.




cloudboy -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/24/2007 10:44:10 PM)

I suppose, too, there is another school of thought that the more control you seek to exercise over one's interactions with others, the less you actually have. The platform of control you describe is based on mistrust, and I think mistrust begets mistrust.

The authoritarian parent comes to mind, whose child must abide by a myriad of rules, so that the child grows up "right." What the parents get in the end is the child who looks "right." One who acts right under controlled circumstances.

The child with less rules, more freedom, and many wayward temptations who acts "right" --- is most assuredly what he appears to be, for he has the freedom to be "wrong." In this case, the parents know they aren't seeing a mirage. The danger, of course, is that the child will misuse his freedom and make the wrong choices.

My thinking here may not translate into D/S, but I think fidelity is best measured by real competition, and being chosen as the winner. The loyal sub is the one with the privacy to pursue another relationship, with the opp't to find another woman, and the ability to jump ship --- but who measures his choice not to do so. In this way life itself free and clear makes the decision.

Yes, it is sexy and alluring to think of a Mistress securing her property, her slave, and controlling his life, owning his freedom and dictating how he might exercise it. Maybe that's the BDSM grail, but I can also see it all from another POV as well, where the sub doesn't need to be overseen and controlled in his relations to others.

In practice, what you have described is marital relationship. The wedding announces to the whole world that "its hands off my spouse." Ironically, its the absence of competition, the absence of freedom, and the tyranny of life long monogamy that often saps marriage of its real spark and compromises the level of honesty between marrieds. In the end, sometimes, you just find people maintaining appearances.





MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/25/2007 2:31:54 AM)

I absolutely agree that you cannot mandate loyalty, exclusivity or commitment.  Nor can you control someone who does not wholeheartedly want to be controlled.  It is a complete waste of time. 

But D/s relationships without rules cannot work either.

Once I would have agreed I prefer a "laissez-faire" style of Domination with no express rules, expectations or controls.  A submissive should just adore and respect me just because I am so great and magically feel submissive without me doing any work!

Unfortunately, submissives craves structure and overt control.  I learned the hard way that I must articulate expectations and enforce the authority gradient or submissives feel lost.  Dominant women have to actively lead the relationship.  Otherwise, you might as well be vanilla. 

As for "other relationships" it is only one type of other relationship you need to stop: his relationships with other Dominants without your prior approval.  A respectful submissive would not do this to you anyway.

There's nothing more socially embarassing than having a submissive that is a "hard dog to keep on the porch".  If a sub needs to keep his options open with other women, don't kid yourself this is a committed D/s relationship.  He is still shopping

And one last observation: not many men really are submissive.  Its a rare jewel and worth searching for a good one.




KaramelGoddess -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/25/2007 6:35:22 AM)

In re-reading this post...I think there is one thing everyone has to remember (including Me): every submissive is different, so is every Dominant.  And every D/s arrangement is going to be different as a result.
 
Some things work, some things don't.  It's all trial and error, particularly when you're new.
 
With kind regard,
~Kara




cloudboy -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/25/2007 6:58:46 AM)


I think you have articulated a good answer here. The greater (or eternal) question is how far and how comprehensive does a DOM extend rules, structure, and regulation?

On the one hand you have 24-7 --- strict micromanagment and heavy duty control and on the other you have, as you said, laissez-faire. There are dangers on each side of the equation. Deciding on the right course is probably a matter of intuitive decisionmaking. Ruminating over who is "right" or "wrong," or what is "better" or "worse" will just be an endless exercise of debate between different camps.

I agree wholeheartedly, though, that a Good Domme usually knows whats best for her sub --- both inside and outside the relationship.




SCDommie -> RE: Brand New Day! (2/25/2007 5:53:16 PM)

Dear DiannaVesta:

I bow in your presence, and thank you for your kind words of instruction.  You are very correct in not allowing them online.   It causes problems.
I am humbled and in awe that you took time to respond to me.
Chasity has made such a difference.  It took me a while to prepare myself mentally to learn how to take care of the device.   It is a very fun and effective tool.


Respectfully,

SCD aka Mistress_Jan




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