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What is your favorite transvestite and/or gender-bending movie / role ?


Henri/etta Rochard - played by Cary Grant in "I Was a Male War Bride"
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Josephine & Daphne - Tony Curtis & Jack Lemmon in "Some Like It Hot"
  1% (1)
Norman Bates - played by Anthony Perkins in "Psycho"
  1% (1)
Frank-N-Furter -played by Tim Curry in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"
  44% (30)
Zaza Napoli - played by Michel Serrault in "La Cage aux Folles"
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Mike Dorsey / Dorothy Michaels - played by Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie"
  5% (4)
Dil - played by Jaye Davidson in "The Crying Game"
  8% (6)
Euphegenia Doubtfire - played by Robin Williams in "Mrs. Doubtfire"
  11% (8)
Bernadette, Mitzi and Felicia in "The Adventures of Priscilla"
  4% (3)
Gerald/ine Tilson - played by Adrian Pasdar in "Just Like a Woman"
  2% (2)
Noxeema Jackson, Vida Boheme, Chi-Chi Rodriguez in "To Wong Foo ..."
  5% (4)
Albert Goldman / Starina - played by Nathan Lane in "The Birdcage"
  5% (4)
Karl / Kim Foyle - played by Steve Mackintosh in "Different for Girls"
  1% (1)
Chablis Deveau as herself in "Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil"
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Sisters Euphemia & Inviolata -E.Idle & R.Coltrane in "Nuns on the Run"
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Robert/a Muldoon - played by John Lithgow in "World According to Garp"
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Dr. Robert Elliott - played by Michael Caine in "Dressed to Kill"
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Trelkovsky - played by Roman Polanski in "The Tenant (Le Locataire)"
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Babs Johnson - played by Divine in "Pink Flamingos"
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Martin Von Essenbeck - H. Berger in "The Damned (La Caduta degli dei)"
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Mick/Michelle - played by David Price in "All Men are Liars"
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Candy Darling - played by Stephen Dorff in "I Shot Andy Warhol"
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Total Votes : 68


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RE: Well, Bless My Soul - 3/26/2005 11:17:55 AM   
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Haha Oh great! Now that song's stuck in my head lol! Eddy's my favorite character. .

Hey, pussycat, what's going down ?

Eddie:
Whatever happened to Saturday night?
When you dressed up sharp and you felt alright
It don't seem the same since cosmic light
Came into my life, I thought I was Divine *
I used to go for a ride with a chick who'd go
And listen to the music on the radio
A saxophone was blowing on a Rock and Roll show
We climbed in the back seat, really had a good time
Hot patootie, bless my soul
Really love that Rock and Roll


Chorus:
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll


Eddie (saxophone solo)

My head used to swim from the perfume I smelled
My hands kinda fumbled with her white plastic belt
I'd taste her baby pink lipstick and that's when I'd melt
She'd whisper in my ear tonight she really was mine
Get back in front and put some hair oil on
Buddy Holly was singing his very last song
With your arms around your girl, you try to sing along
It felt pretty good...Whoo!
Really had a good time
Hot patootie, bless my soul
Really love that Rock and Roll


Chorus:
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll


(saxophone solo)

Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll
Hot patootie, bless my soul
I really love that Rock and Roll


[* why Eddie ever thought he was a 200 pound white trash TV from Baltimore sissy will never know <giggles>]

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RE: "To Wong Foo ..." movie omission - 3/27/2005 11:03:11 AM   
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Unfortunately, the limit on the length of text for each poll option prevented sissy from listing the three roles, the three actors and the movie name on a single line without it being really cryptic.

OK, Ma'am, sissy has now discovered that he can actually have more than ten options in a poll and accordingly has included Beeban Kidron's "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar" movie in his poll above. So now You can vote for it, Goddess.

Because he could only fit the three drag queen role names on the poll option line, here is the associated actors information that is omitted from the actual poll option entry:

- Noxeema Jackson played by Wesley Snipes
- Vida Boheme played by Patrick Swayze
- Chi-Chi Rodriguez played by John Leguizamo

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RE: Dressing in Pink - 3/27/2005 1:01:27 PM   
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ooops! sorry sissy...i'm a bit naughty, and forgot to actually vote!!
Though i have now corrected that and Priscilla now has 2

The movie now has 3 votes so some other schmuck ... ooops, CollarMe member ... also voted for it, too! <giggles> That now puts it into third place behind TRHPS and Mrs. Doubtfire ... clearly other kinksters find the concept of the mean, evil and powerful General Zod in a dress just as compelling as sissy does! sissy Remembers that when he watched the original Superman movie back in the late seventies he wondered exactly how evil Lex Luther and General Zod would really appear to be if they wore dresses. Who would have thought that twenty years later that's exactly what Terence Stamp and Popeye Doyle ... ooops, Gene Hackman ... would be doing in Priscilla and The Birdcage, hee, hee. But then again, sissy has always been prescient that way - sometimes exactly how in touch he is with his feminine side really scares sissy ... it's called transvestite intuition !!

Accordingly, in his original poll sissy had only listed the Bernadette Bassenger role of Terence Stamp in the movie, which was a little bit unfair on Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce, wasn't it ? Priscilla was really just the Australian precursor of the American movie To Wong Foo ... and, in fairness, all three "guys" (two drag queens and a transsexual) need to be credited. So sissy has updated the poll entry, and here are the actual tranny roles and associated actors information that had to be omitted from the poll option line due to lack of space:

- Ralph / Bernadette Bassenger played by Terence Stamp
- Anthony 'Tick' Belrose / Mitzi Del Bra played by Hugo Weaving
- Adam Whitely / Felicia Jollygoodfellow played by Guy Pearce

Phew ... thank goodness sissy has been able to get that off his chest!

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RE: Dressing in Pink - 3/27/2005 1:40:58 PM   
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Priscilla was really just the Australian version of the American movie To Wong Foo ...

'Priscilla' was released a year before 'To Wong Foo' so that would make 'To Wong Foo' the US version of 'Priscilla.'

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RE: What is your favorite transvestite and/or gender-be... - 3/27/2005 4:37:05 PM   
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Voted for Frank N Furter from the Rocky Horror show, as the play was written by Richard O'Brien and is based on his experiences growing up in Hamilton, New Zealand.

Check out the plans for a statue ' erected ' in honour of Richard O'Brien ( who played Riff Raff in the play and the movie ):-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3551547


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RE: What is your favorite transvestite and/or gender-be... - 3/27/2005 4:51:01 PM   
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Frank N Furter for sure! *sighs happily* That movie brings back wonderful memories of my friends!

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RE: Posting in the Pink - 3/27/2005 5:18:31 PM   
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'Priscilla' was released a year before 'To Wong Foo' so that would make 'To Wong Foo' the US version of 'Priscilla.'

Well done, good call, stef. Of course, sissy knew that ... he was just testing to see if anyone else also knew it! <giggles> So congratulations, and for spotting that you win a cigar ... oh, and a semen-stained dress, too!

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RE: Nuns on the Run - 3/28/2005 8:58:04 AM   
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Nuns on the Run ... Combines crossdressing with religious fetish and catholic discipline.

Many thanks, Mercnbeth, for drawing sissy's attention to the movie "Nuns on the Run" which must have flown under his radar back in 1990 when it was released ... as a big Monty Python / Eric Idle addict sissy is not quite certain how that one got past him. The plot of the movie makes it sound like "Some Like it Hot" meets Dudley Moore's Leaping Nun of Norwich character from "Bedazzled" !! Accordingly, sissy has added it as a new option in the poll above. So now Y/you can vote for it if Y/you didn't already squander Y/your vote on some other movie choice instead.

In researching this movie sissy did discover that the DVD of the movie is due to be released on 4/5/05 ... that might get the movie some renewed attention and possibly give it a new lease on life. sissy Would be interested what Y/you both thought about the soundtrack to the movie as two of sissy's personal musical heroes are credited with contributing to the song writing ... Steve Winwood and George Harrison. Eric Idle, crossdressing, BDSM, and catholic discipline (sissy was raised RC) interests aside, the involvement of these two musical icons would have been sufficient to motivate sissy to check this one out. In fact, George Harrison was the executive producer for this movie.

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RE: Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff and the RHPS - 3/30/2005 5:04:17 PM   
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Voted for Frank N Furter from the Rocky Horror show, as the play was written by Richard O'Brien and is based on his experiences growing up in Hamilton, New Zealand.

Thanks for sharing that Paul ... sissy never knew that Richard O'Brien was from New Zealand. Y'all should be rightly proud of him <giggles>. sissy's Mind boggles at what sort of experiences Richard had growing up in Hamilton that inspired him to write the Rocky Horror Show!! Let's face it, sissy can blame his desire to crossdress on having seen shows such as the RHPS at an "impressionable age" (as the euphemism goes). But who the hell can he can he point the finger at ??? Clearly there is a lot more perversion going on in Hamilton than just sheep shagging!!

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RE: Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff and the RHPS - 3/30/2005 8:20:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola
Thanks for sharing that Paul ... sissy never knew that Richard O'Brien was from New Zealand. Y'all should be rightly proud of him <giggles>. sissy's Mind boggles at what sort of experiences Richard had growing up in Hamilton that inspired him to write the Rocky Horror Show!! Let's face it, sissy can blame his desire to crossdress on having seen shows such as the RHPS at an "impressionable age" (as the euphemism goes). But who the hell can he can he point the finger at ??? Clearly there is a lot more perversion going on in Hamilton than just sheep shagging!!


He was born in England and moved to live in New Zealand when his parents emigrated when he was a young boy.

There is a documentary where he shows the places in NZ that inspired his writing. The play itself he wrote when back in England. For those who didn't already know, it may come as a surprise to discover the ' roots ' of the whole thing, but to those familiar with the time and place of the writers upbringing it is entirely consistent. It is a combination of freedom of the outdoors, periodic boredom, isolation, the local Embassy picture theatre where he watched mostly B movies and science fiction, and farm machinery. He dropped out of school in Tauranga at the age of 15.

Trivia: Did you know that someone by the name of Robert Muldoon played the character of the narrator in the stage version of Rocky Horror ? Yup, 1986 in Auckland, Sir Robert Muldoon, former Prime Minister of NZ, appeared for one week. And they say politicians have no sense humour ?








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RE: Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff and the RHPS - 3/31/2005 5:07:15 AM   
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Boondock Saints which features Williem Defoe in drag.

yep. don't even bother renting it- just go buy it.

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RE: Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff and the RHPS - 3/31/2005 5:09:31 AM   
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RE: Richard O'Brien, Riff Raff and the RHPS - 3/31/2005 3:05:07 PM   
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Boondock Saints which features Williem Defoe in drag.


Oh I love that movie!!! Just watched Boondock Saints, A Clockwork Orange, and Fight Club last night! So good! That was a great scene! Completely forgot about it! Thanks!
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RE: Robert/a Muldoon, Robin Williams and the RHPS - 3/31/2005 11:20:47 PM   
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Trivia: Did you know that someone by the name of Robert Muldoon played the character of the narrator in the stage version of Rocky Horror ? Yup, 1986 in Auckland, Sir Robert Muldoon, former Prime Minister of NZ, appeared for one week.

There Ya go, Paul, sissy thought he was English because when the initial stage show opened as a play production at the Royal Court Theater in London in 1973 it was essentially an all-Brit thing, although sissy doesn't believe Tim Curry was involved at this point (nor Richard O'Brien as an actor, for that matter, although as the playwright he probably was connected with it). It was the next year (1974?) when the show was moved out to Hollywood (Roxy Theater?) that Curry got the lead role that he made his own, and of course he would be the natural person to continue that role in the movie when shooting for RHPS started at the end of that year. But that's how a Brit ended up playing probably the world's most famous transvestite role (well, at least, if this poll is to believed <giggles>) in what was essentially a relatively low budget American produced, directed and cast movie.

But what most people don't seem to realize is that the RHPS movie completely bombed when it was initially released in cinemas in 1975. This despite the fact that the initial British Royal Court stage version had been acclaimed as the "Best Musical of 1973" and run for six or nine months, and the subsequent stage version on Sunset Strip had been equally successful and run for about as long again ... in fact, the Hollywood stage show may have still been running at the end 1974 when filming for the movie commenced. OTOH, the movie was pretty cheesy (let's face it, that's one of its major attractions!) and flaunted an almost totally taboo topic (transsexualism and transvestitism) and used relatively unknown actors and actresses - Susan Sarandon (this was only her second or third movie), Tim Curry (his movie debut) and Meatloaf (only his second movie, his first movie role being uncredited) were NOT recognized names in cinema back then.

The movie would probably have completely died and disappeared into the forgotten annals of film history, but about six months after its release (we're into 1976 now), 20th Century Fox decided to change it into a midnight movie at the Waverly Theater in Greenwich Village. This late night approach caught on and its reputation spread purely by word of mouth to other theaters, which also all started screening the show at midnight. It was at this time that repeat viewers of the movie started to sing along and participate along with the action on screen. They say that the first official dressing up for the movie started out in California, probably in LA - where else? And the rest is history, as the expression goes ...

So much for sissy's piece of RHPS trivia ... WRT to Your own, Mr. Robert Muldoon seems to have been pretty busy in cinema and stage drag circles in the eighties! Because that is also the name given by John Irving to his M2F transsexual character in The World According to Garp, the role of this former Philadelphia Eagles tight end football player being played by John Lithgow in the 1982 movie. It's just occurred to sissy in writing that, that Robin Williams (who plays Garp in the movie) must have also appeared crossdressed in that movie. In the novel, Garp's best friend Robert (or rather Robeta, because he has completely transitioned by this point) dresses Garp in women's clothing to disguise him so that he can attend his mother's "feminist" funeral (at which no men are allowed). It is quite a while since sissy has seen this movie and, although Lithgow's performance as Roberta (for which Lithgow was nominated for a "Best Supporting Actor" Oscar) is as vividly etched on his memory as the bouncing baby in the film's opening sequences, he doesn't remember Robin Williams in drag for this portion of the plot, but the film is pretty faithful to the novel, so it must have happened.

If so, this means that Robin Williams has appeared in four of the above tranny movies, and en femme in two of them. Robin played the uncredited role of the character John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt in the movie To Wong Foo ... and was of course the gay lover of the drag queen Starina (Natahan Lane) in the film The Birdcage. Taken together with his crossdressed Garp and Mrs. Doubtfire roles, that's a lot of gender-bending screen time. Plus there is a Mrs. Doubtfire sequel scheduled, which will bring his total gender-bending movie appearances to five (assuming there are no others that sissy has forgotten about). That might be more than the number of trashy on-screen drag queen roles played by the real-life TV actor Divine. sissy Will have to do further research on that one ...

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RE: Robert/a Muldoon, Robin Williams and the RHPS - 4/1/2005 8:20:39 PM   
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although sissy doesn't believe Tim Curry was involved at this point (nor Richard O'Brien as an actor, for that matter, although as the playwright he probably was connected with it).


I found an interesting link on this - it appears Tim Curry was in the original stage version:-

http://www.milesago.com/stage/rocky-horror.htm

I note also the link with Jesus Christ Superstar.

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The movie would probably have completely died and disappeared into the forgotten annals of film history, but about six months after its release (we're into 1976 now), 20th Century Fox decided to change it into a midnight movie at the Waverly Theater in Greenwich Village.


I remember friends attending dress up midnight sessions at the Academy Cinema in Christchurch in 1977.



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Mr. Robert Muldoon seems to have been pretty busy in cinema and stage drag circles in the eighties! Because that is also the name given by John Irving to his M2F transsexual character in The World According to Garp, the role of this former Philadelphia Eagles tight end football player being played by John Lithgow in the 1982 movie.


I'm thinking as Sir Robert Muldoon appeared in Rocky Horror on stage in 1986, that this was an in-joke. Sir Robert had a keen sense of humour, credited with saying things like ' when someone leaves NZ to go to Australia the IQ of both countries rise.' He was also the patron of the Black Power gang in NZ, something we all found out about in 1992 at his funeral as the gang turned out to hounour him and performed an awe inspiring haka.

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RE: Frank N Furter for sure! - 4/2/2005 4:43:27 PM   
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Frank N Furter for sure! *sighs happily* That movie brings back wonderful memories of my friends!

Well if the current standing of this poll is anything to go by, you are not the only one that feels that way. And it is not really surprising that it is popular with kinksters as there was so many kinky references (outside of anything to do with transsexualism and transvestitism) hidden away in the dialogue as this following short extract demonstrates:


BRAD: Brad Majors. And this is my fiancee, Janet Vice.

JANET: Weiss.

BRAD: Weiss.

FRANK: (taking Janet's hand to kiss) Enchanté. Well, how nice ... and what charming underclothes you both have. But here ... put these on. They’ll make you feel less, um, vulnerable. It’s not often we receive visitors here. Let alone offer them hospitality.

BRAD: Hospitality? All we wanted to do was use your phone, God-damnit, a reasonable choice which you’ve chosen to ignore!

JANET: Brad, don’t be ungrateful!

BRAD: Ungrateful?! (angrily whips off his glasses)

FRANK: How forceful you are Brad. Such a perfect specimen of manhood. So ... dominant. You must be awfully proud of him, Janet?

JANET: Well ... yes I am.

FRANK: LAUGHS. Do you have any tattoos, Brad?

BRAD: Certainly not.


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RE: Boondock Saints - 4/5/2005 9:08:33 PM   
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Boondock Saints which features Williem Defoe in drag

Hi Sir Lawrence,

sissy Apologizes for the delay in getting back to You, but he has been Googling around in the bachground for the last few days trying to find the en femme name of William Defoe's character's drag persona. The FBI cop that he plays in the movie is Paul Smecker ... so when Paul dresses in drag near the end of the movie what does he call hirself ? sissy Could guess Pauline but it rarely works that way ... lola bears no resemblance to sissy's male Christian names. Maybe he is able to get through all the scenes in drag without it being necessary to have a feminine name. Norman Bates never had to speak his name in the few scenes in which he appeared "dressed to kill" in Psycho so we'll never know what he called himself in his psychopathic feminine moments.

sissy Needed this information to add the movie / role option to the poll list. sissy Just assumed that he could glean this information from reading online reviews of the movie ... but none of the ones sissy has read mentions Defoe's drag persona's name, and sissy is now tired of searching. Talking of reviews of this movie, boy is opinion split on the merits of this film. sissy Personally missed this one so he is totally dependent on the opinion of others on this one. sissy Has seen all of the movies currently in his poll, some of them many times, with the one exception of the one recommended by Mercnbeth. Clearly You think highly of this movie because You recommend just going out and buying it ... and there are many others that compare the movie favorably with Tarantino's Pulp Fiction - presumably mainly because of the dialogue and non-linear plot - while the other school of thought is that it sucks big time and is one of the worst movies ever made because the acting, with the possible exception of Defoe's, is abysmal. There are very few people that are indifferent to this movie ... people seem to either love or hate it wiith a passion.

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RE: Tim Curry, the RHPS and Spamalot - 4/7/2005 4:46:06 PM   
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Sorry, Paul, sissy got a little side-tracked there.

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I found an interesting link on this - it appears Tim Curry was in the original stage version <snip>
I note also the link with Jesus Christ Superstar.

Actually, that would make sense because sissy knew that Tim was also in the London production of Hair, although he had forgotten about Jesus Christ Superstar, as well as the Rocky Horror Show. According to that article You posted the URL to, all three of these early 1970s mega-hit musicals were directed by Jim Sharman. Curry and O'Brien were both in the London stage productions of Hair and Jesus Christ Superstar together, too. What threw sissy off is that Curry was the only member of the London cast to make it out to Hollywood for the American version of the show.

The reason he knew about Tim being in Hair is quite funny. Recently sissy heard a radio interview with him because he has hooked up with Mike Nichols (director of the Birdcage) and Eric Idle for the current Broadway musical called Spamalot which is an adaptation of the classic Artur tale and sequel to the Monty Python movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Tim plays King Arthur. He was asked about his involvement in the stage show RHS and movie RHPS and on whom did he mirror some of his mannerisms in creating the Dr. Frank-N-Furter role. Tim said his mother ... and cited, in particular, Frank's disdain in saying things like: "How forceful you are Brad. Such a perfect specimen of manhood. So ... dominant."

That particular affectation came straight from his mother who was a bit of a middle class prude and snob. Well, of course, the prude remark triggered the next obvious question of how did his mother feel about him prancing around on stage wearing women's lingerie - wasn't that a bit of a shock for her ? His reply was that you had to remember that he was also in Hair prior to RHS where he was completely starkers on stage. After that, he said, his mother was only too pleased that he got to wear clothes in the RHS whatever they were!

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Sir Robert had a keen sense of humour, credited with saying things like ' when someone leaves NZ to go to Australia the IQ of both countries rise.' He was also the patron of the Black Power gang in NZ, something we all found out about in 1992 at his funeral as the gang turned out to hounour him and performed an awe inspiring haka.

Roberrt Muldoon sounds like a pretty cool guy ... how many western politicians can you say that about? For a while there in the early nineties, Americans thought Clinton was cool because he played the sax ... but all the trials and tribulations of the interminable scandals throughout his administration made them quickly forget about that initial attraction. But correct sissy if he's wrong here, isn't the Black Power gang an illegal criminal organization in NZ ? What gives there ?

Take care,

sissy maid lola






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RE: Tim Curry, the RHPS and Spamalot - 4/7/2005 9:04:59 PM   
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isn't the Black Power gang an illegal criminal organization in NZ ? What gives there ?


I may have remembered the details incorrectly. Upon trying to check the internet I find it may have been the Mongrel Mob and not Black Power. On these sorts of things the internet is remarkably unreliable.

From memory this Robert Muldoon came to be their patron ( either Mongrel Mob or Black Power ) as a result of a summit meeting with their leadership. They said something like ' you can't touch us we're tough see, we don't follow your rules.' Then Muldoon replied ' Oh I don't know, I've got the Police, the Army, Jails, Courts, and am a much heavier bastard than you lot having fought Rommel in North Africa and won't think twice about doing whatever is necessary to deal with you.' They hit it off famously and subsequently made him their own.

Muldoon can't be described as ' cool.' But he does come second to Clinton in public speaking. Bill Clinton is the best I've ever heard ( better than a Rock Star ) with Muldoon a close second ( more of a Hitler ).






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RE: Tim Curry, the RHPS and Spamalot - 4/11/2005 6:41:46 AM   
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There is "All Men Are Liars" which I didn't see mentioned...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112322/

Not that it's my favorite...

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