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MsCfromMelbourne -> Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 3:29:36 AM)

Psychiatric research claims there is a correlation between being a fetishist and having a body part (usually a finger) cut off or nearly cut off as a small child.

One paper says fetishism can also be traced to witnessing a mutiliating event or having a bloody operation as a kid, but the more common explanation is a bleeding injury.

I got terrible burns to my arm when I was 6.  Has anyone else here had a horrible accident as a kid, probably to your hand?

And ......if you never had a nasty accident, how come you are still a sick f*ck???!!




eyesopened -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:12:30 AM)

WTF???  To what kinds of fetish does this "research" refer?  Other than after childbirth i have never had a stitch. i have never had a broken bone or had any other major accident during my childhood or after, certainly not a bleeding injury nor have i ever witnessed one.  i would question the validity of the research.




MsCfromMelbourne -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:16:48 AM)

So you are female with a fetish?  That's really unusual.  The subjects were all male.




Jasmyn -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:18:57 AM)

MsC ... interesting theory .. .do you have a link to the research?




bastardandthewen -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:25:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

So you are female with a fetish?  That's really unusual.  The subjects were all male.


If you are implying that this unnammed "research" deals only with men; why bother mentioning your own past experience?




Termyn8or -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:29:09 AM)

Well, when I was about five I up and grabbed something hot out of the oven and had a huge blister on my hand. I don't really know if that caused it, but I am kinkier than a four foot garden hose with 45 knots in it.

I do believe that something in early childhood causes people to be kinky, but I am not so sure it has to involve trauma. I have postulated before, look at what we do to kids, strap them down in chairs (carseats), put them in cages (cribs, playpens), diapers (somewhat like a chastity belt).

Perhaps some kinksters are just trying to recreate an earlier time in life, one without responsbility, one without control over one's own actions.

???

T




eyesopened -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 4:53:58 AM)

i'm sorry, nothing in your original post said anything about the subjects being only male.  Are you suggesting only males have fetishes?  Do i need more coffee?




OnyxGoddess -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 5:08:24 AM)

Hmmm....as a trained Psychology researcher I'd have to say "show me the study."  I don't feel that fetishes are derived from some childhood trauma.  I feel fetish arises out of curiousity that we have even as children.  We explore our curiousity and it we like it and it gives us pleasure we repeat the event.  Interesting the study subjects were all male.  Leads me to believe this is just another piece of "research" to explain away the doings of men and make it ok. 




subnstudent -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 5:11:15 AM)

There might be some merit to this... I heard something about 'exotic becomes erotic'... can't remember for the life of me where, but this theory's been out there for a while.




Jasmyn -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 5:30:48 AM)

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Are you suggesting only males have fetishes? 

 
Fetishism in women is a rarity, not unheard of, but rare in comparison to men.  Keeping in mind, strictly speaking, fetishism is considered an inanimate object or body part the fetisher focuses on and/or requires to be sexually aroused or sexually fullfilled.




Driver1961 -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 5:46:20 AM)

He dips His lid to all;

Well in my short experience as a Lifestyle Dom I have encountered (r/t) 6 subs that declare childhood trauma (giving details) as being their key to being subs and at least 3 others who described very clear sub type experiences as under sixers.

Just because there is no known clear statistics on this, does not negate (in my view) what appears to be a common link to subs and most prob Dom/mes.  

Hey we all have psychological problems- it is we who make them a problem.

Warm regards to all.  Driver. 




eyesopened -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 5:48:43 AM)

Thank you for clarifying.  The OP confused me with relating her own experience, and asking why someone is "as sick fuck"  and while i don't fixate upon a specific object or body part i do fixate on bondage for arousal.  i don't know if that classifies as fetish or not.  By your clarification i guess it doesn't but i'm still confused since the original post didn't say this research was limited to male subjects.  i plead stupid.  sorry.




Padriag -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 8:47:36 AM)

I don't know to what "research" you refer but it sounds highly dubious.  While various childhood experiences (which need not be traumas) can, and do, sometimes result in fetishes and other behaviors; it cannot be reduced into such bizarre over-simplifications as "having a body part cut off results in the development of X fetish."  Whatever you read is likely the ramblings of some fringe pseudo-science.

The development of behaviors in individuals is the result of highly individualized experiences.  What makes the results of these unique is that for each individual not only do the experiences differ, but just as importantly so do the combinations of experiences and the perception of these experiences.  Because of this, it is just not possible to state that X experience always results in Y behavior, behaviorism is more complex than that.

Thus while one person might have a fetish about blonds because their mother was blond, another with a blond mother might develop a fetish about brunettes, simply because the combination of various other experiences and the perception of those experiences differed in each individual.  Understanding why each developed as they did requires understanding that history of relevant reinforcers.  So while it is sometimes possible to trace the development of a fetish in a person, doing so generally requires (except in very rare circumstances) the identification of multiple influences / events that resulted in the development of that one behavior (fetish).




Amaros -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 8:55:39 AM)

I had my foreskin amputated as a baby, does that count? 




toservez -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 8:57:40 AM)

I am guessing it was one of those studies that took a conclusion and worked backwards. The old if you are not like everyone else you must have gotten screwed up.

Do I think that people who had bad things happen as a child might have a higher chance to live a life like ours then people with “normal” childhoods, yes, but not because it made them into it but because they have either grown comfortable in their own skin or accepted, happy or not, that they feel different and therefore in a way feel more free to pursue these feelings and drives. In other words they are not as tied down to society’s expectations.

Studies like this always have many problems and for me the biggest one is trying to quantify what trauma is and not factoring in how many who live society’s “normal life” also had these traumas.




szobras -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 8:59:45 AM)

Now that you mention it.I do remember getting a real "kink" in my neck when I was around 12.




domiguy -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 9:13:08 AM)

When scouting out the vanilla world there  are things that you keep an eye out for...Piercings...lots of tats...and someone who works in the field of helping others....That is where you will find your precious twisted sistahs....As to the cause of kinks obviously any form of abuse when young will take its toll on the psyche...Don't personally see much of a relationship to a hand injury and relating that to an acquired fetish...Unless the fetish was always similiar.

All I know is when I was a Domiboy I put my hand in the disposal....From the point on I knew that all women would pay for my mistake!!!!  Muuuhahahahahaha!!!




azzmaster -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 9:14:47 AM)

early life is the time we get alot of imprinting, sexual and otherwise. i know alot of women i have had that get off on gettin beaten severely or need to b choked to get off had very abusive childhoods. whatever i think happened that u get ur 1st sexual excitements from triggers future excitements. i can see similar things in my own kinks tho i won't get specific on the forum




PeterJay -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 9:38:03 AM)


I'm not sure if this is the answer you are looking for; but when I was 16 months old I shartted my tibia bone taking my baby steps. Between 16 months & 16 years old I had nine major surgeries to see if the doctors could make a "new" bone by using hip & rib bone, but nothing ever worked. So I decided to have my right leg amutated 7" below the knee. I have no idea what it is to walk on my own two legs because I was always in a brace or a cast. So this was not a loss to me at all. It was a gain and the biggest and best move I ever made. But I do not believe this is the reason that I am a sub. I believe that I would be a sub no matter what my childhood was like. I am a giver & I like to see other people are taken care of before my own needs, in both vanilla & Ds. I hope this helps.




juliaoceania -> RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? (2/25/2007 9:58:23 AM)

Most children have some terrifying experience or witness something terrible...it is like saying "Anyone that had a pet as a child will develop a fetish"... seems silly to me




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