Aswad
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My mistress and I are thinking of getting one, and have been seeking out whatever information we can find on the web. It seems that there aren't any specifically designed for the BDSM community and even the various fetish websites simply sell the ones designed for dogs, which made me wary at first, but I have since read numerous pages explaining that they are perfectly safe for people as well.
Don't even think about it. And I'm surprised the mods haven't shut this down already, given the potential liability issues.
Are you familiar with REACT units?
Those have caused more than their fair share of problems, despite being made for law enforcement use, to a high standard. Eventually, they had to make versions that you stuck around your ankles or around your arms, because sticking them around your waist was too risky. Now they're out of business, IIRC. Accidental discharges were equal in number to intentional discharges. One police officer almost injured his head falling during the taping of the instructional video.
Now, putting this in a collar ... let's disregard for a moment that you won't find any made for people, as those are for law enforcement onle, and hence none that have been made to a human safety standard and shock setting.
First of all, a shock will cause an immediate drop in blood pressure of up to 1/3 of the baseline blood pressure. Depending on your tolerance, this can cause fainting. In some susceptible individuals, who will not know until it happens, this drop does not have any lower limit, and there may be serious health issues.
Second, a shock of any significant intensity will cause you to drop to the ground anyway, possibly with convulsions. Depending on probe placement, internal resistance, and a number of other factors, you could end up with part of the current path going through your heart (causing fibrillation) or through your brain (ECT Lite). Either way, you can injure yourself while falling. Bear in mind that the shocks are calibrated for a dog, not a human, and will hit you a lot harder than the dog.
If these aren't good enough reason to lay off it, more reasons won't be, so I'll stop here.
What you could do, however, is to go for a unit that attaches to the outside of the large thigh muscle. There are remote-controled TENS units that will be useable in this regard, although those can be removed easily. You can probably get hold of one of the units used by law enforcement, although it might take a bit of paperwork (or going on a vacation abroad, where the US manufacturer is allowed to sell them to anyone, and then ordering them there).
Seriously. I wouldn't recommend this. I was looking into doing this myself, but there simply isn't any safe way of doing it with a collar, except of course if it has probes that attach elsewhere and is thoroughly isolated. Such probes are easily removed, though.
I'm looking into having a local company that produces medical- and military-grade equipment produce something along these lines, except with the shock delivered to a different part of the body. It'll probably end up being horribly expensive, though. 
And ISTR the US doesn't use the same cell phone network, which kind of invalidates my thoughts about having a GSM unit on board to restrict movement 
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