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junecleaver -> What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 1:50:27 PM)

In the context of two (or more) people sceneing, what makes a good bottom (particularly in a public scene)?  I'm sure it is different for everyone, but I'm curious as to your opinion---how a bottom can help the scene become something successful, hot, and memorable?  I've only scened once publicly and haven't gotten an opportunity to watch many yet.  I'm excited about these new experiences though and just perusing for information on different mediums. What qualities does a person possess that makes you want to scene with them?   What sort of things have you seen a bottom do that made the scene that much more enjoyable? Is it theatrics?  Being flexible?  Being open?  Being a 'painslut'?  Just 'being yourself' ?    




thetammyjo -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 1:54:28 PM)

Responsiveness.

Verbal and physical responsiveness is the key for me whether it is public or private.

If part of the scening in public motivation is to display the skills or to show off in some fashion (not negative at all in my opinion) then you may want to work on being louder or a bit exaggerated so viewers can see or hear everything.

If the motivation is more just the energy of the public venue I wouldn't change what you do. Just have a good time.




BitaTruble -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:10:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: junecleaver

In the context of two (or more) people sceneing, what makes a good bottom (particularly in a public scene)?  I'm sure it is different for everyone, but I'm curious as to your opinion---how a bottom can help the scene become something successful, hot, and memorable?  What qualities does a person possess that makes you want to scene with them?   What sort of things have you seen a bottom do that made the scene that much more enjoyable? Is it theatrics?  Being flexible?  Being open?  Being a 'painslut'?  Just 'being yourself' ?    

::snipped::


For me, it's all about energy. I have an extremely high level of energy and I'm more than willing to expand it for a good scene partner. Those who don't feed that back can leave me drained and feeling very dissatisfied with a given scene regardless of what that scene entailed or how long it may have taken. Generally speaking, if I can feel their energy outside in the day to day world, I'm going to be able to tap into that during a scene. Once again, it boils down to compatibility and communication.

Celeste




FukinTroll -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:17:57 PM)

Oh hell! I thought this was a great butt thread.




RumpusParable -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:24:08 PM)

 
I rarely top, but when I do:

What qualities does a person possess that makes you want to scene with them? 
 
Depends on the scene... Over all, though, enthusiasm and genuine enjoyment.  Flexibility can be handy for things, being very vocal in some, silent in others, stoic acceptance, fighting and struggling back, etc can enrich a scene but what makes or breaks the fun no matter what the scene involves is their attitude.  If someone isn't really interested or can't get their headspace into it (worried about other issues, too tired, whatever) then it just doesn't work no matter what you both try...

What do I look for or makes me want to scene with someone?  Chemistry, that spark of personalities and/or situation.

Ditto from the other direction when I bottom:  Interest and chemistry.

On what makes a scene fun for me to WATCH:

I like involved or quirky scenes... just watching someone flogged or such doesn't do much for me.  But ones where there is clearly a lot of emotional interaction through verbal or physical acts are great to see..  Also ones where there is a multi-part process occuring interest me such as cutting, rope work, etc.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:24:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: junecleaver
In the context of two (or more) people sceneing, what makes a good bottom (particularly in a public scene)?  I'm sure it is different for everyone, but I'm curious as to your opinion---how a bottom can help the scene become something successful, hot, and memorable?

Be honest- to yourself and to me.  Be honest about your frame of mind, your triggers, both positive and negative, whether you've had enough to eat, that you really can get into a scene that night, whether you really can make it JUST a scene, whether your personality fits with the mood of the scene we want, be honest with TELLING me what you want.

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What qualities does a person possess that makes you want to scene with them? 

Polite, receptive, approaches slowly but confidently, shows genuine interest in me AND the play.
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What sort of things have you seen a bottom do that made the scene that much more enjoyable?

Communicated without being bossy or needy.  Let me know what types of pain they are feeling, whether they could take more or not (more honesty), tell me good and bad parts.

Be responsible for creating a scene TOGETHER- ask if I need anything, offer to pick up the toys, give at least a thank you at the end if not a good foot kissing (I'm a sucker for that). 





boltaction -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:27:21 PM)

communication is the basis of any good top or bottom.




mnottertail -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 2:31:20 PM)

round from every aspect and rather peachlike is the best bottom for me, especially when they can hold those aspects with it up in the air and head down.  And its gotta have the depth, breadth and overall wherewithal to handle a pretty tough bobsled ride.

Ron
an afterthought, since everyone likes them to communicate, I am not for it, but I wouldn't be put out by one that does, so long as it doesn't run off at the hole constant like.




RUpainsmith -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 5:08:30 PM)

In short, the chemistry.  I don't think I could give a checklist of what makes a good bottom; qualities that if met, indicate that that person could satisfy my needs in a scene or relationship.  Open-mindedness, natural connection, humor, and playfullness would be a good start, but any question like that in the OP is really asking a foundation, not a finish line.




marsman -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 7:23:41 PM)

Particularly in a public scene?

It all comes down to costumes, makeup and good acting ability.
A good script helps too.

Can she let out a blood curdling scream convincingly when you hit her with the deerskin flogger?

Seriously though, I think the theatrics take away from the experience of BDSM and that is why
I prefer to play privately for the most part.




WhiplashSmile -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 8:49:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Oh hell! I thought this was a great butt thread.


FukinTroll... If I'm ever around your way... I'll show up at your place with a couple of Bottles Rum or something... we can drink it all down and stare at the bottom, and ask ourselves what makes for a great bottom...

Porcelain Pirates make evil friends..... Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum....




FukinTroll -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 8:57:33 PM)

Mead for me and your always welcome!




WhiplashSmile -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/1/2007 8:58:02 PM)

Dear June Cleaver,
If you are asking about heating things up for a public scene,  rip some plays off from musicians and porno stars.  Make noises, Moan, shout, scream... immerse yourself into the moment fully.  Let go of your fears of what people think.  Just get into it.   Become the screaming banshee at the end of the whip.  The top will get into more.. and so will the crowd.. and people will be leaving there talking about seeing how June Cleaver was wild and crazy.... they'll never forget you and neither will your top...




onestandingstill -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 4:34:50 AM)

I've played in public in the past with lots of people. What I've found is a good bottom keeps their focus on the Top. It's very distracting to play in a place that's loud with everyone else playing. It's very easy to take your focus say to the people scening next to you for a second.
I find taking your attention off the top thats playing with you something that breaks the energy exchange down some.
So smile, behave as sensually responsive as you're feeling so they see the result of their efforts, and focus only on what the two of you are doing during the scene would be my best advice.
suzanne




onestandingstill -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 4:45:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile

Dear June Cleaver,
If you are asking about heating things up for a public scene,  rip some plays off from musicians and porno stars.  Make noises, Moan, shout, scream... immerse yourself into the moment fully.  Let go of your fears of what people think.  Just get into it.   Become the screaming banshee at the end of the whip.  The top will get into more.. and so will the crowd.. and people will be leaving there talking about seeing how June Cleaver was wild and crazy.... they'll never forget you and neither will your top...


I disagree in my opinion with the make noise for others concept.
In th public dungeons here I have made very little noise, yet a lot of people thought my scenes were hot as hell and were drawn to watch them due tot he energy, not the noise level.
I have only let out one set of loud blood curdling screams (when I took needles along the crack of my butt YOUCH!!!) once in all my public play.
Even then I couldn't believe it was coming out of my mouth when I heard it, but it was not preventable when I heard it before I realized I was doing it.
That was the most embarrassing, humiliating experience I've had in public as a matter of fact, because I screamed like a banshee.
I constantly hear how the screaming mimi ruined the head space of someone else's scene.
I don't think exaggerating sound has anything to do with making the scene hot if it's not a real sound.
In play for me every reaction and response I have is pure.
I don't manipulate or hide my responses or reactions, but I'm not magnifying them for others viewing pleasure unless for some strange reason I'm ordered to.
I accept we agree to disagree on this, but I'm truly surprized people'd like the bottom/sub/slave to fake sound reaction to add heat.
suzanne




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 7:15:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile
Dear June Cleaver,
If you are asking about heating things up for a public scene,  rip some plays off from musicians and porno stars.  Make noises, Moan, shout, scream... immerse yourself into the moment fully.  Let go of your fears of what people think.  Just get into it.   Become the screaming banshee at the end of the whip.  The top will get into more.. and so will the crowd.. and people will be leaving there talking about seeing how June Cleaver was wild and crazy.... they'll never forget you and neither will your top...

I agree that this is not a good bottom to me- mostly because it's not honest.  And I think I can tell pretty easily when someone's faking.

And frankly, it's not always about what others think- unless you're the only scene going on at that time-  in a public space your screams can be very disturbing to other people's scenes.  While we can all expect a certain amount of noise at a party, if you're going to be popping whips and repeatedly screaming or making any very loud intrusive noise repeatedly, it's polite to do it either before or after everyone else plays or do it outside. 




Aubre -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 7:40:11 AM)

Red beans and rice ;)




domiguy -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 9:09:32 AM)

One that doesn't look like it has been left out in a hail storm.




moki1984 -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 11:00:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Oh hell! I thought this was a great butt thread.

lol. i knew someone was going to say that




WhiplashSmile -> RE: What makes a great bottom? (3/2/2007 11:39:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile
Dear June Cleaver,
If you are asking about heating things up for a public scene,  rip some plays off from musicians and porno stars.  Make noises, Moan, shout, scream... immerse yourself into the moment fully.  Let go of your fears of what people think.  Just get into it.   Become the screaming banshee at the end of the whip.  The top will get into more.. and so will the crowd.. and people will be leaving there talking about seeing how June Cleaver was wild and crazy.... they'll never forget you and neither will your top...

I agree that this is not a good bottom to me- mostly because it's not honest.  And I think I can tell pretty easily when someone's faking.

And frankly, it's not always about what others think- unless you're the only scene going on at that time-  in a public space your screams can be very disturbing to other people's scenes.  While we can all expect a certain amount of noise at a party, if you're going to be popping whips and repeatedly screaming or making any very loud intrusive noise repeatedly, it's polite to do it either before or after everyone else plays or do it outside. 


This why I suggested to immerse one self into the moment.  Hell, everybody can tell the Porno Star fakes and Musicans which fake a performance.   You need to let go of fears though!  If you feel like you want to scream.. moan or whatever.. just do it!! There are other people in the room watching... no need to be shy..   If the performance comes across being too planned then Blah... it sucks... but be aware of things you can do... in the middle of everything.... a book of plays or things to do... If one were mindless screaming like a banshee the whole time.. that would be distracting....  things like that are suited for a climax in the middle of the scene or end...   If you repeat the same thing over and over and over again... that becomes boring... I'm just suggesting for one how to honestly explore putting on a better show...  In terms of Muscians Freddy Mercury, had a play book of things to do and tinker with the audience... He was one Hell of a performer! Same thing with some of the well known famous porno stars.....   




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