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Prinsexx -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 12:54:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ph0enixF1re

For those of you that are familiar with these personality profiles, can you make a correlation between a personality type and the role that we play in the BDSM lifestyle?

Which one are you, and does it affect how you conduct your lifestyle activities?

For instance, the ENTJ is the "Feild Marshall" and probably is a very strong Dominant, Alpha type.

I'm extrene ENTJ...... (on both E and N scores)....Aplpha slave but certainly no 'field marshall.'




Prinsexx -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 12:55:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BignBlonde4u

Do you know where you can take the test and get results for free?

Yes.




subdarreng -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 1:08:06 PM)

Am an INTJ sub....
We maybe a snall percentage of the population but i think we are just as unpredictable.....




LadyAngelika -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 3:47:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: BignBlonde4u

Do you know where you can take the test and get results for free?

Yes.


Well that was particularly helpful, now wasn't it ;-)

Prinsexx, usually you have to pay to get them done. I'm not sure if you are a student where there might be a business school or work for a corporation that has a human resources department as they must have the test on hand or know of someone who does.

- LA




Prinsexx -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 4:56:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: BignBlonde4u

Do you know where you can take the test and get results for free?

Yes.


Well that was particularly helpful, now wasn't it ;-)

Prinsexx, usually you have to pay to get them done. I'm not sure if you are a student where there might be a business school or work for a corporation that has a human resources department as they must have the test on hand or know of someone who does.

- LA

I've been using it professionally for 13 years.
it's freely available in many forms by googling Myers-Briggs




rsarge -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 5:00:58 PM)

Definitely an INFP in this neck of the woods.




pompeii -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 9:13:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23
I find the claims that there are so many INTJ and INFJ rather suspicious.


Notwithstanding the strength of the I (i.e., a weak I or a strong I are not the same with respect to social outgoingness'), the collarme-predominant IN(T/F)J means four things:
- I - Most collarme folks apparently prefer to "energize" alone (and not in the middle of Times Square) ...
- N - Most collarme folks don't take in a whole lott'a data; the base their decisions on intuition more so than senseable facts ...
- T/F - It seems this bi-valent decision-making ability says they base their decisions on a balance of thinking and feeling criteria ...
- J - And, most collarme folks (despite what you'd think) definitely have a preference for how they want others to act around them ...

That's about all I can say for the overwhelming majority who are on Collarme (based on the data in this thread).

I think there was one, or maybe two (if that) ESTP's out there ... which makes me a huge minority ... at
- E - Unlike most collarme folks (apparently), I energize with people ... put me in a room alone ...and I'll just die ...
- S - Again unlike most collarme pervs, I take in as much data as my feeble brain and senses can handle before making a decision ...
- T - When I do make a decision, it's based on cold hard thinking facts - feelings don't play a huge role in the decision ... it is what it is ..
- P - And, contrary to what you'd think, I, unlike most collarme perverts, I prefer a world where anyone does whatever they like around me ...

There it is ... in a nutshell! :)








pompeii -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 9:17:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BignBlonde4u
Do you know where you can take the test and get results for free?


The best tests, of course, are those you pay big bucks for given by a trained Physchologist and interpreted within a room of your well-known peers, where you line up in the room four times based on your results ... where it's absolutely amazing to see those people you never did understand at the other end of the line.

However, you asked for free, so, beware there are lots of "free" tests that are really just scams for your money ...

However, with that in mind, the "best" free test out there that I know of is this one.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp




LadyAngelika -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 9:31:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

quote:

ORIGINAL: BignBlonde4u

Do you know where you can take the test and get results for free?

Yes.


Well that was particularly helpful, now wasn't it ;-)

Prinsexx, usually you have to pay to get them done. I'm not sure if you are a student where there might be a business school or work for a corporation that has a human resources department as they must have the test on hand or know of someone who does.

- LA

I've been using it professionally for 13 years.
it's freely available in many forms by googling Myers-Briggs



The only tests are mostly clones.

- LA




pompeii -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/22/2010 10:11:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I'm actually not an Extrovert, but rather an Ambivert so the MBTI is misleading.


The difference is in scale and interpretation. For example, 1% Extrovert is not at all the same as a 50% or 70% Extervert but for the purpose of the overall summary, all three people would be reported as an E.

How the Myers-Briggs test REPORTS the scale & who does the interpretation is what is throwing people off the scent.

When you take the (big bucks) professional tests, an experienced psychologist interprets the scalar results for you, so, that psychologist knows the difference between a 5% Extrovert and a 20% Extrovert. I would be going out on a limb by going much deeper but it's common knowledge that a 5% Extrovert isn't all that different from a 5% Introvert; both have the ability to energize from both sides of the equation (alone, in a quiet room and in the middle of Grand Central Station).

So, it's not the MBTI which is misleading; it's the fact that we're not reporting the SCALE and we're the ones doing the interpretation. The MBTI is actually NOT misleading; it's one of the best tools out there (not the free tests, mind you) ... it's just that we're using the el' cheapo stuff and we're not providing the scale.






leadership527 -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/23/2010 11:48:58 AM)

I find myself scoring differently depending on the environment I am in when I take the test. At work, I am an INTJ. At home, an ENFP (among other things). I see them as both very valid parts of me. I dislike the concept that humans can be so easily cubby-holed. I like to think of myself as "complex".




LadyAngelika -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/23/2010 12:20:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pompeii

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I'm actually not an Extrovert, but rather an Ambivert so the MBTI is misleading.


The difference is in scale and interpretation. For example, 1% Extrovert is not at all the same as a 50% or 70% Extervert but for the purpose of the overall summary, all three people would be reported as an E.

How the Myers-Briggs test REPORTS the scale & who does the interpretation is what is throwing people off the scent.

When you take the (big bucks) professional tests, an experienced psychologist interprets the scalar results for you, so, that psychologist knows the difference between a 5% Extrovert and a 20% Extrovert. I would be going out on a limb by going much deeper but it's common knowledge that a 5% Extrovert isn't all that different from a 5% Introvert; both have the ability to energize from both sides of the equation (alone, in a quiet room and in the middle of Grand Central Station).

So, it's not the MBTI which is misleading; it's the fact that we're not reporting the SCALE and we're the ones doing the interpretation. The MBTI is actually NOT misleading; it's one of the best tools out there (not the free tests, mind you) ... it's just that we're using the el' cheapo stuff and we're not providing the scale.



I agree 100% with this pompeii.

The firm I work for administers these tests and though I'm not an expert in their interpretation, I have an overall understanding of how they work.

In raw points, I'm Extraversion 11 – Introversion 10 

I was pointing out the ambivert as when I found this definition, it helped me.
___

Now lets look at the first 5 questions of the MBTI test:

1. When you go somewhere for the day, would you rather               
(a) plan what you will do and when, or
(b) just go?


Depends. Do I have goals I need to accomplish that day? If yes, absolutely (a). If I don't have anything particularly pressing, that I'm just going to relax, then I'm absolutely open to just going with the flow (b).

2. Do you consider yourself to be               
(a) more of a spontaneous person, or
(b) more of an organized person


Initially, I took this test at work and wrote organized, as I am quite organized. I just thought about this a little bit more now that I'm sitting in my living room and I think that when in business, I'm more organized then I am in my personal life, that's for sure, but that really, I'm pretty spontaneous. Like I have to go out and do groceries today but I won't write a list. If I write lists, it's because I feel I have to in order to get structure, but I won't instinctively...

So for fun, I changed this answer and re-evaluated my results and I'd be

3. If you were a teacher, would you rather teach               
(a) fact courses, or
(b) courses involving theory

Now here is a tricky one. I love theory much more than I love fact. But I recongnize that in training (not teaching), facts are more appropriate.

4. Are you usually               
(a) a "good mixer", or
(b) rather quiet and reserved?


Now here's a question that is so very situational. With people I know well, (a) for sure. With strangers, one on one (a) and in groups, definitely (b) with the odd manifestation of (a) but I don't know if "good" would qualify my interactions.

This is a perfect example of what makes me an ambivert.

5. Do you usually get along better with               
(a) imaginative people
(b) realistic people


I need both in my life 50-50. That is what balances me.

____

So when I'm taking this test, I don't sit there an discuss each point. We are told to take it quickly and instinctively. Well as someone pointed out earlier in this thread, my instinct at work isn't the same as my instinct socially. My instinct under pressure isn't the same as my instinct in my comfort zone.

- LA




pompeii -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/24/2010 11:26:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
We are told to take it quickly and instinctively.


I always wondered why they told us to answer with the first thought that comes to mind (apparently 'cuz that's the true you coming out).

Hell, "sex" is the answer that first comes to mind on all the questions above! :)




Masterfulwayz -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/24/2010 11:47:24 PM)

such an interesting topic.. We were looking at this VERY closely in my grad studies..
the way people in a team fit.
the ways to talk to certain types.. different forms of comunication etc..
a wonderful application to more than stereotype all submissives as one type and all Dominants as another.
kudos even.
kindly, William-




Masterfulwayz -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/24/2010 11:56:32 PM)

the vanilla cone CRACKS me up.. I guess I need to write more.
smile-




MsLee15690 -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/25/2010 1:19:36 AM)

ESFJ, Guardian.

Guardians of birthdays, holidays and celebrations, ESFJs are generous entertainers. They enjoy and joyfully observe traditions and are liberal in giving, especially where custom prescribes.

All else being equal, ESFJs enjoy being in charge. They see problems clearly and delegate easily, work hard and play with zest. ESFJs, as do most SJs, bear strong allegiance to rights of seniority. They willingly provide service (which embodies life's meaning) and expect the same from others.

ESFJs are easily wounded. And when wounded, their emotions will not be contained. They by nature "wear their hearts on their sleeves," often exuding warmth and bonhomie, but not infrequently boiling over with the vexation of their souls. Some ESFJs channel these vibrant emotions into moving dramatic performances on stage and screen.

Strong, contradictory forces consume the ESFJ. Their sense of right and wrong wrestles with an overwhelming rescuing, 'mothering' drive. This sometimes results in swift, immediate action taken upon a transgressor, followed by stern reprimand; ultimately, however, the prodigal is wrested from the gallows of their folly, just as the noose tightens and all hope is lost, by the very executioner!

As to the correlation of the type of role in the lifestyle? Way too long for me to describe and get into--believe me, I can, since I love the details. Just take the description above to a basic idea.




MistressTonya2u -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/25/2010 1:40:18 AM)

Your Type is
ISFP




wandersalone -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/25/2010 7:06:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

I find myself scoring differently depending on the environment I am in when I take the test. At work, I am an INTJ. At home, an ENFP (among other things). I see them as both very valid parts of me. I dislike the concept that humans can be so easily cubby-holed. I like to think of myself as "complex".


I agree with you Leadership.  My outcome can differ based on when I take the test and what has been happening in my life recently.

Whilst these psychological tools can be interesting if used simply as one piece of the puzzle that is ourselves my feeling is that people have a tendency to use results from inventories such as the MB to justify or explain their life and or choices/decisions to others eg. well I am an abcd so it is no wonder I keep falling for deadbeat doms.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/25/2010 7:09:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pompeii

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
We are told to take it quickly and instinctively.


I always wondered why they told us to answer with the first thought that comes to mind (apparently 'cuz that's the true you coming out).


That is one of the biggest fallacies ever ;-) To really know one's self requires many, many hours of meditation.

- LA





Hardbutt -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (1/25/2010 7:30:23 AM)

Pompeii, please keep in perspective that this is a measure of Collar Me people who are Forum Responders, this is not a measure of BDSM participants. I don't think this is unique to the BDSM universe.

The majority of CM people do not regularly play here on the discussion boards. Visit any profile in your geographic area, click to see their forum posts and most often there will be few to none found.

My interpretation is the E-types are more likely to socialize in real life than on boards. Perhaps you would enjoy your local munch?




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