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mixielicous -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 9:04:37 AM)
fast reply, i too am the rare, INFJ and i take much much pride in the fact. some of the greatest people are INFj

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 9:46:26 AM)
i took the same test before and found i was an INFJ too.

RumpusParable -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 3:18:46 PM)
INTJ here. As for as BDSM orientation, I'm primarly a dominant and masochist, enjoy subbing with one particular partner.

DoctorDubious -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 4:07:40 PM)
Hey all perverts and myersbriggsians.... Back when I was still a sick-ologist I trained quite a bit in MyersBriggsBunk.... It has some uses, for sure, but think of the over-riding metaphor that is used in this system. Take a test. Then we put you in one of sixteen boxes. I don't fit well in a box, and I'm sure most of you readers don't either.... (even if your master does lock you up in one from time to time, eh?) I think M-B blows the whole thing by not allowing for how different we all are in different contexts.... A fine surgeon can be a really effective T (defaults to thinking under stress) when she's in the operating room, and an equally fine F (goes to feelings under stress) when her baby girl comes home sobbing from being hurt at school. So, this cranky old INTJ thinks that MyersBriggsBunk has very little to add to an understanding of thiskinkythingthatwedo. DD

KatyLied -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 5:23:11 PM)
Yet another INTJ.

mp072004 -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/6/2007 6:00:36 PM)
I'm an INTJ. The N (intuition) is pretty weak--I'm close to an ISTJ. The I and the T are both very strong in me--I'm an "introverted thinker." It's said that INTJs project self-confidence and certainty in a very concrete way. INTJs become erudite, and test their knowledge, and think carefully about it, and once they have proven their mastery to themselves, their erudition prompts them to be confident and authoritative in that area. That's a trait I've been said to possess, and once it was pointed out to me (out of the context of Myers-Briggs), I noticed it as a pattern, too. I behave more authoritatively when I know that I know what I'm doing. Vendaval's quote about INTJs wanting a rational universe, where people "make sense," is spot on. I've never heard it phrased quite that way before, but I like it. But as Vendaval's post continued, I found it dissonant with my own experience. I've found that it's very easy to misunderstand me if you don't regard what I'm saying to be what I mean, and very hard to misunderstand me if you do. ISTJs like people to keep their promises. They like rules and structures. I prefer a covenant model in my relationships, and I set explicit rules, so this is characteristic. My experience with polyamory and BDSM indicates that they both favor a little more explicit covenanting than mainstream vanilla monogamy does, which helps me with this. In sum, my Myers-Briggs type affects how I do BDSM relationships--just as it affects how I do all relationships--but I don't see real support for it predicting that I will have a BDSM relationship.. It has somewhat to do with _how_ I develop dominance, but I don't see how it would predict _that_ I would develop dominance well. I certainly don't think it has anything to do with my fondness for tying people up and hurting them. Monica

Vendaval -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 2:01:42 AM)
Some more information about INTJs - "The Portrait of the Mastermind Rational" (iNTj) http://keirsey.com/personality/ntij.html "It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers." " >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INTJ FAQ's http://fuzzy.snakeden.org/intj/ [image]http://fuzzy.snakeden.org/intj/dealing.jpg[/image] "1. Be willing to back up your statements with facts - or at least some pretty sound reasoning. 2. Don't expect them to respect you or your viewpoints just because you say so. INTJ respect must be earned. 3. Be willing to concede when you are wrong. The average INTJ respects the truth over being "right". Withdraw your erroneous comment and admit your mistake and they will see you as a very reasonable person. Stick to erroneous comments and they will think you are an irrational idiot and treat everything you say as being questionable. 4. Try not to be repetitive. It annoys them. 5. Do not feed them a line of bull."

DragonXPhoenix -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 3:21:15 AM)
I'm also INTJ. It's odd how we only comprise 1%, but yet we all wind up on collarme. Hmmm......Interesting.....

Emperor1956 -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 10:04:53 AM)
quote: KatyLied: For Emperor -- how do you feel about the Enneagram? I took it and must admit that it captured who I am good & bad, except for the fact that it insists I am profoundly creative, which I am not in any form. Katy, I don't "feel" any way about these faux personality tests. They are gimmicks, one and all. I feel angry when people use Myers-Briggs or any of the questionable progeny (and by the way, the more online ease of taking the "test" the more questionable, usually) to limit others' choices, careers or paths. I feel amused when people spend money on an M-B test when they could read their horoscope and get much the same warm fuzzy. And I feel a mixture of disdain and schadenfreude when I see clueless people brag about being a "rare" M-B type. Equating an M-B personality profile to "better than YOU" is stupid and sad. E.

KatyLied -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 10:09:07 AM)
Hey, Emperor, thanks for responding to me on that. I often wonder how much use any of this has. I was much more freaked by the Ennegram because I felt it was a good read on me. I am different. LOL

Emperor1956 -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 10:41:16 AM)
Maybe this will make my point. Probably not, but hey...I got an hour to kill. Here goes: As I wrote above, one of the reasons people like Myers-Briggs is that the 16 personality types are written so that anyone can see something they want to be in the descriptions. It is fine to be non-judgemental, but to be so warm and fuzzy in a personality analysis that the reader says "OH YES, that's me and I'm PROUD of being ME" indicates a very likely flaw in the instrument. So in the spirit of exploration I've developed these snappy little capsules of personality theory. Below each by the way, I've posted the original M-B descriptor. An Open Letter to My dear INFJ friend: INFJ Its always, always all about you. Everything in your world had better connect back to you and what you want, or -- be it a thought, a person or an object -- it is history. Greedy. Gossipy and one who worms their way into the relationships and private thoughts of others. Committed to your own ideas, regardless of what evidence, experience or knowledge might say otherwise. You know what's best for everyone else. Some famous INFJs: Mussolini. Pol Pot. Nancy Reagan INFJ Seek meaning and connection in ideas, relationships, and material possessions. Want to understand what motivates people and are insightful about others. Conscientious and committed to their firm values. Develop a clear vision about how best to serve the common good. Organized and decisive in implementing their vision. To the dear INTJs among us: INTJ Thinks way way way outside the box. Compulsive about getting their way. Judgemental. Formulates plans and explains views based on snap judgements with little or no knowledge or information. Once you decided what's right, its always right until you are done with it. Inflexible. Disbelieving, demanding and cynical. Sets unrealistic standards for self and those around you. Will not play well with others. INTJ Have original minds and great drive for implementing their ideas and achieving their goals. Quickly see patterns in external events and develop long-range explanatory perspectives. When committed, organize a job and carry it through. Skeptical and independent, have high standards of competence and performance – for themselves and others. Some Famous INTJs: Rasputin. George Bush. Phyllis Schlafly OH...and a note to myself: ESFP Aggressive, loud and without any real standards. A glutton, greedy and gregarious. A slut. Lazy and uses the talents of those around him or her to reach a goal. A fuck-off, but also a brown-nose. Unable to stick to a schedule or follow the rules. Cannot form committments and so is always jumping to new situations and new people. Willing to abandon old friends for a perceived new benefit. ESFP Outgoing, friendly, and accepting. Exuberant lovers of life, people, and material comforts. Enjoy working with others to make things happen. Bring common sense and a realistic approach to their work, and make work fun. Flexible and spontaneous, adapt readily to new people and environments. Learn best by trying a new skill with other people. See what I mean? --E.

mixielicous -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 11:17:09 AM)
well the test i took for my results were very thorough, and these seem like uber crap descriptions as i am infj and the stuff it "says" about me i do not recognize almost at all..... now if i could only find the website i used oh well

KatyLied -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 11:43:59 AM)
quote: See what I mean? Yep!

SusanofO -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 11:46:52 AM)
Emperor1956 is obviously an INTJ (hehe). It's a joke...[:D] - Susan

nyrisa -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (3/7/2007 1:54:25 PM)
(fast reply) I am an INTP in Myers Briggs, who is equally a Generalist and Peacemaker (scored 6 in both) in the Enneagram test. But all the inkblots look like scorpions to me. Hmmm......

pompeii -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (12/15/2008 11:07:06 PM)
I'm surprised I'm the only ESTP in this eclectic crowd based on this myers-briggs test done today. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp Here's the type for the lone (so far) ESTP out here (do I really belong?) ... one must wonder ... http://www.purdue.edu/usp/pdfs/mbtiresources/ESTP.pdf Based on this thread, here's what YOU are ... http://www.collarme.com/Ph0enixF1re = ENTJ http://www.collarme.com/KatyLied = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/MasterFireMaam = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/SusanofO = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/ToServeIsToLive = INTP http://www.collarme.com/abytchgoddess4u = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/justheather = INFP http://www.collarme.com/stef = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/Quivver = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/happypervert = INTP http://www.collarme.com/Hime = ENTJ http://www.collarme.com/DreamyLadySnow = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/MySweetSubmssive = INFP http://www.collarme.com/WhiplashSmile = ENTJ http://www.collarme.com/windchymes = INTP http://www.collarme.com/BRNaughtyAngel = ISFJ http://www.collarme.com/TribeTziyon = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/ArgoGeorgia = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/velvetears = INFP http://www.collarme.com/pollux = INTP http://www.collarme.com/dawntreader = ISFJ http://www.collarme.com/KeraiKoneko = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/losttreasure = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/smilingjaguar = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/ExSteelAgain = INFP http://www.collarme.com/KnightofMists = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/szobras = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/DefiantFlower = ENFP http://www.collarme.com/mewmew = ENFP http://www.collarme.com/Evanesce = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/yesiwill2007 = INTP http://www.collarme.com/mythi = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/jadein = ENFP http://www.collarme.com/juliaoceania = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/Anachron = ISFP http://www.collarme.com/curiouspet55 = ENTJ http://www.collarme.com/TNstepsout = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/SleepyBeast = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/Wildfleurs = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/sexypet = ENFP http://www.collarme.com/kyraofMists = ISTJ http://www.collarme.com/windchymes = ISFP http://www.collarme.com/acissej = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/QuietDom = INTP http://www.collarme.com/Aileen68 = ISFP http://www.collarme.com/MysticFireTopaz = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/Sunshine119 = ENTJ http://www.collarme.com/boltaction = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/FirmhandKY = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/Lashra = INTP http://www.collarme.com/denika = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/ownedgirlie = ESFJ http://www.collarme.com/swtrayn = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/blushingflower = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/StellaByStarlite = INTP http://www.collarme.com/PsyVamp = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/subkitten32 = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/Smythe = INFP http://www.collarme.com/myobedience = ISFP http://www.collarme.com/juliaoceania = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/Focus50 = ISTJ http://www.collarme.com/Mustardseed = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/GeekyGirl = ISTJ http://www.collarme.com/Stephann = ENFJ http://www.collarme.com/LotusSong = ISFJ http://www.collarme.com/FukinTroll = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/swtrayn = ENTP http://www.collarme.com/canupleaseme = ENFP http://www.collarme.com/mixielicous = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/sambamanslilgirl = INFJ http://www.collarme.com/RumpusParable = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/DoctorDubious = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/mp072004 = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/DragonXPhoenix = INTJ http://www.collarme.com/nyrisa = INTP

bratnwranglers -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (12/16/2008 12:11:19 PM)
wow i feel lonely on my ESFJ island..lol, least ownedgirlie and i can keep each other company

IvyMorgan -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (12/16/2008 4:11:59 PM)
INT(just)J My problem with this test is, being bipolar, I do both sides of all four pretty darned well. Last time, when I did it with a person, I was I (N and S) (F and T) (J mostly) So, the only thing we really know about me is that I'm introverted. Unless I'm manic. Or hyper. Can I be CONFUSED, please?

oceanwynds -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (12/16/2008 6:02:11 PM)
I am an INFj Ennegram I am the Artist personality Interesting thread, glad it came back up

Jeptha -> RE: Myers-Briggs personality types (12/16/2008 7:00:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DoctorDubious I think M-B blows the whole thing by not allowing for how different we all are in different contexts.... Exactly. I've taken this thing a coupla times, once with a career counselor who specialized in the thing, and found it to be pretty much nonsense. And the reason is context (...if memory serves ~ it has been a while now since I last took it.) My behavior is very context driven, and the test did not supply context that I could relate to. I think I recall feeling that there was some sort of middle class cultural bias built into it, but I'm not sure if that would really be an accurate claim or not. That's what I seem to remember, though, looking back over the somewhat hazy years. That's just my experience: I realize other's claim to have had tremendously insightful experiences with it, and that's great for them. It does disturb me if employers use it for employee screening, though, which I have heard happens.

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