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Paradoxic -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (3/31/2007 10:36:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist I wanted to ask other Doms both male and female if they could "smell" the submission on others. Did you know what they were before they did? Secondary question... How many think that there are mre submissive people out there but they get hung up on the label of submissive? They have all the tendancies of a sub but once they hear that label they freak out. I think that yes, you can smell the submission on others. When I started to follow a dominant personality development system that required disciplined breathing, slowing my inhale and exhale while breathing very deeply, using as few muscles as possible, my sense of smell increased in a way that at first I could not believe..I've also relaxed more than I ever had. People's mental states affect the endocrine system, which secrets hormones into the blood that you can taste and others can smell - for example, when your body is flush with adrenaline, there's a metallic taste in your mouth, the taste of the adrenaline, and others become wary of you without knowing why. If your sense of smell is trained to be sensitive and open, you can easily smell someone's anxiety, anger, horniness, etc. On the one hand, I'm much more intolerant to certain smells - I run gagging from many public restrooms, and I can't tolerate people wearing too much perfume/cologne. On the other hand, if someone is lying to me sometimes there's a stuffy smell. Submission has a very light/young smell, like rosewater. At first I thought it was some sort of instinct, but when I focused on what I was smelling as part of this system, I begain to notice that there were also actual smells involved. Does this seem like what you are experiencing?

unsung -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (3/31/2007 2:08:28 PM)
I wear rosewater as a body mist, omg I am a dead give away. j/k Paradoxic but truely I do wear that mist daily.

KnightofMists -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (3/31/2007 4:19:31 PM)
this thread has been really enlighting..... All this time I thought it was them farting.... and here it was their submission that smelled so pretty.

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (3/31/2007 4:50:39 PM)
I love behaviorial science, so, I do tend to people watch..., people are so complex..., but I cannot tell if someone is submissive or Dominant.. (assuming we are not talking TypeA personalities..those I can track like radar and become a magnet..I find Type A's very amusing) *I do assume all people are vanilla unless they tell me specifically their orientation....does anyone else share that perspective?* *always,* *curious*

ONEDEMANDINGMSTR -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 6:35:53 AM)
SexyRed...........You hit the nail on the head! "Vanilla" public life situations are seldom indicative of the underlying personality traits. I have found that females who are significantly dominant in their public lives very much yearn to be submissive, 'offstage'. A lot of us Dom guys are just ordinary guys..........maybe a bit more funloving and outgoing......but , still pretty 'ordinary'. Until we meet in forums such as this site, or one of the many others........or actually broach the subject in casual conversation........it's very difficult to 'know'

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 6:57:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist I wanted to ask other Doms both male and female if they could "smell" the submission on others. Did you know what they were before they did Yes. There is a young woman that becomes very submissive in my presense. She just about radiates it. quote: Secondary question... How many think that there are mre submissive people out there but they get hung up on the label of submissive? They have all the tendancies of a sub but once they hear that label they freak out. I think it's more about what they hear about BDSM in general that freaks them out more then it's about being called a submissive.

BayouSub -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 9:34:17 AM)
It does not happen very often but on a few occasions a dominant in the vanilla world has sensed or "smelled" my submissive nature and acted on it. In my first real office job, I worked with a woman who was not outwardly dominant but I noticed as time went on that she subtly changed her polite requests to mild orders with me. "Would you please bring me the Jones file" became "John, bring me the Jones file" and that kind of thing. Frankly, I loved "serving" this woman but I thought it might hurt me at the job so I spoke to her privately and asked her to stop. She gave me a knowing look and said "John, we both know you love it when I treat you like that." She did stop which is what I guess I wanted. (Not Really) But it surprised me that she could pick up that I was a submissive at a time when I thought I was hiding it pretty well. This has happened a number of times over the years with both male and female dominants in the vanilla world tuning into my submissive nature. Unlike when I was younger, I readily submit to vanilla domination now unless there is a good reason not to. I wish it would happen more often..

SilkLaceNPearls -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 9:38:08 AM)
I once had a Dominant tell me he knew I was a submissive by the way I touched his arm. We had met via a chat room and become good friends. There came a time when we decided to meet in person. We were watching a movie at my apt when at one point I reached out and touched his arm. Later on that night he asked me how long I had been a submissive and I thought the man had lost his mind. I did not see myself being submissive to anyone and I said that to him. He then proceeded to direct me to webpages dealing with this subject matter and the proverbial lightbulb went off. It all clicked for me and I realized what my life was missing. We never entered into a D/s relationship due to the military relocating him in a few short weeks but I will never forget the profound effect he has had on my life. I always smile when I think of him.

crouchingtigress -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 9:43:09 AM)
how did you touch his arm...do you remember?....

drawntothedark -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 10:07:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER In short I think that vanilla woman belong in the vanilla world and they cant ever be trusted as far as what they say they like or are into. I found that a lot of woman especially after break-ups are scattered in there thoughts and they have a tendency to over think things and confuse themselves so I dont view them as people who are responsible enough to consent to anything so I just stay away from shit like that. I was once in vanilla land. Don't discount everyone [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m11.gif[/image]

SilkLaceNPearls -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 12:45:07 PM)
Yes I do remember. We were sitting side by side on the couch and he was teasing me about the movie. It was a horror movie and while I love them, I do get scared very easily. I just barely touched him on his forearm. I remember as soon as I touched him I felt this energy coming from him and I immediately withdrew my fingers from him.. It startled me greatly. It was just one of those things you never truly forget.

CuriousLord -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 3:30:44 PM)
Slaves and subs normally come to me. Most do not come as slaves or subs, until recently. Most have been girlfriends who have acted submissive, later becoming slaves, pets, or/and daughters. Lately, out of annoyance for the failure rate of first-time subs (a fair portion of them are unsure of how to cope with the barrier between their vanilla life and the new-found life of slavery), I've been only accepting slaves, and after quite a long consideration period. A lot of girls have been approaching me, asking for anything from guidance, to "kinky" sex, to slavery, since I've been more open about my relationship style. Society really shuns s&M a good bit. It's quite a shame, but, frankly, I'm finding it easier to deal with the shunning than denying being honest about myself. A lot of people tell me I'm sick. But, finally, it's all honest, and the right people stick around.

simplygrl -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 7:25:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord Society really shuns s&M a good bit. It's quite a shame, but, frankly, I'm finding it easier to deal with the shunning than denying being honest about myself. A lot of people tell me I'm sick. But, finally, it's all honest, and the right people stick around. Good for you. I've only recently started sharing this side of myself with others that are very close to me. At first, I got a few reactions from friends telling me that I was in an abusive relationship if that (s/m) was what was happening. But in general, it's nice to be open with people. And if they can't accept that side of me...well, I'm learning to deal with it. Glad to know I'm not the only one trying to be open. (Though granted, I'm not "publicly" open. :))

Slavetrainer2007 -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/4/2007 8:53:56 PM)
I wouldnt say "smell" their submission. I can usually pick up if a persons personality is submissive or dominate within a few minutes of interacting with them or watching them interact with others. Most submissives and dominates i come in contact with dont persue it( i can usually tell this by their demeanor) actively. It is my belief, that most people are either sub or dom, being a "neutral" is a hard status to obtain. As some have said here, they are dominate in one part of their life and sub in others. Or dominate to some people and submissive to others. I typically dont pay much attention to others in the vanilla world unless i get a strong sense of submission or dominance from them .

SilkLaceNPearls -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/5/2007 8:16:39 AM)
I have been conversing with a Dominant for a few days now and last night I shared a picture of myself with him. He said I would make a good submissive. And when I asked him why, he said he can see it in my eyes. His comment made me smile from ear to ear as it reaffirms my destiny in life.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/5/2007 8:18:19 AM)
One on one meeting there is submission in their eyes. So if you meet me Have some courtesy Have some sympathy, and some taste Use all your well-learned politesse Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah Pleased to meet you Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

drawntothedark -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/5/2007 8:38:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 One on one meeting there is submission in their eyes. So if you meet me Have some courtesy Have some sympathy, and some taste Use all your well-learned politesse Or I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah Pleased to meet you Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Hope ya guess my name do do...do do*

Radasham -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/7/2007 5:21:34 AM)
From my personal life, I wouldn't call it "smell", so much as "strongly suspect"....so far my radar has been 100%. All the slaves in my life I have met in the vanilla. I've been able to nail them down as sub's usually with in the first few hours of meeting them. It mostly comes down to tone of voice, usage of words, carriage, and display. But I was brought up to be observant of human nature, and body language. So its something I don’t think about but do with out thinking. As far as the number of sub's in the world. I'm of the opinion that there are more sub's than Alpha's. And yes they do tend to get hung up on the term rather than the concept. Because in our modern western culture everybody wants to be the strong, dominate lead actor in the play of there own lives. We all have been taught that we are equal, strong minded individuals. And that we should not submit to anyone. We are the lucky ones who have listen not only to our heads but to our hearts. We see human nature as one or domination and submission. That we each have a place in life to fill...and following can be just as rewarding as leading. Myself I'll lead with the leash in my hands, the paddle on my hips and a smile on my face as I blaze my own trail [8D]...of course the opinions stated above are the sole expression of a self asured bastard, so your milage may vary

Padriag -> RE: Can you smell the submission? (4/7/2007 5:51:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist I wanted to ask other Doms both male and female if they could "smell" the submission on others. Did you know what they were before they did? I encounter people all the time who have "follower" personalities. That's not really hard to spot and there are various books on reading body language that can teach almost anyone how to pick up on that. It is more difficult to spot someone in public who may be "submissive" in the lifestyle context by observation alone, but it is possible (course its a bit easier if they're being led on a leash at the time... ). Sometimes I'll encounter someone that after a bit of interaction, conversation, etc. I can fairly well guess probably is in the lifestyle and submissive in that context. quote: Secondary question... How many think that there are mre submissive people out there but they get hung up on the label of submissive? They have all the tendancies of a sub but once they hear that label they freak out. Of course there are and its not surprising really. Then there are those who flip out over the use of labels at all. You meet all kinds in this world.

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