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mixielicous -> RE: S&M, inborn or acquired? (3/6/2007 10:23:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous
but the OP is asking about s & m, not M/s, bdsm, or D/s

The title of his post is S&M but the actual post goes into just about everything. So I decided to just go with it as a whole entity.

yea i saw this after a reread [i have a bad habit of skimming] :D




LordJessie -> RE: S&M, inborn or acquired? (3/6/2007 10:23:32 AM)

Perhaps there are many roads that lead to the same destination?  I for one recall as a young lad,being drawn to captive play in which I tied or caged the neighbor girls,captured them and tortured information out of them and so on.  Even as a young adult, long before I knew there  was such a thing as BDSM, I was drawn that way.  Looking back to the scenes I recall most clearly in old movies and TV shows, passages I found most stimulating in books, and even lyrics I was drawn to in the music I listened to, I have no doubt I was born at least with the need and desire to dominate.  My slave luci is also a prime example of this.  When I found her she was new to the life, and untrained, and yet she instinctively knew and knows more than those who have been practicing BDSM for years. she continues to amaze Me, not just with her words, or even actions, but with her entire attitude toward Me and her understanding of exactly what this lifestyle really means. Some may choose this life for whatever personal reason, and some may be drawn by their personal history, but I truly believe some of us are simply born to it, and can never be complete without it.   




Hime -> RE: S&M, inborn or acquired? (3/6/2007 11:40:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SubmissiveSissie

Personally, I think it's definitely possible to be born either submissive or dom.


How we interact as children (more often than not) plays a defining factor on how we interact as adults.

Hormone levels of testosterone and estrogen have been linked to personality traits.  Studies have shown that female children born of mothers with high levels of testosterone in the womb during early development were more prone to Assertive, Competitive, and otherwise seen as masculine personality traits.  Females born of mothers with less testosterone and more estrogen were innately Gentle, Accepting, and more Passive.

This seems to have the same effect on males.


~ xoxo




AquaticSub -> RE: S&M, inborn or acquired? (3/6/2007 1:52:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SubmissiveSissie

I got thinking earlier, is it really possible to be born into such a lifestyle? Or do you think it is something that has to be acquired, through training or through hardships and normal lifestyle? I'm sure this will make for interesting debate, seeing as it is a very interesting question.

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In closing, I personally think that doms and subs can be the way they are based on natural life events, rather than just all of a sudden deciding they want to enter the lifestyle. So what do you think?


I think I want to talk to the parents of everyone who claims to have been and raised in this lifestyle.

To get more to the point, and away from bad discussions, I think it's a mix of both personality and circumstances.




GeekyGirl -> RE: S&M, inborn or acquired? (3/6/2007 2:26:55 PM)

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I got thinking earlier, is it really possible to be born into such a lifestyle?


I don't know if you're born into, but I theorize that it's determined by a fairly early age. I was thinking BDSM thoughts prior to elementary school. (hope I'm allowed to say that without violating TOS ).

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Think about it though. It all starts when you're a kid for some people. If you're a girl growing up who has always had everything handed to you on a silver platter, spoiled lived a cushy life for your entire childhood, and then suddenly you find yourself out on your own in the world, you'll probably be strong minded and strong willed to continue to get what you want and desire in life.


I'm not sure I agree with this. I was spoiled 10 kinds of rotten my whole life. When I finally was out on my own, I fell flat on my face in a horrible way and I said "No way, not for me" and ran straight back home. Here I am, 24yrs old, mom and dad still pay almost all the bills and I don't have a problem with that. If anything, I think it contributed to me being submissive because I've never learned how to take care of myself or manage my own life/finances (I make plenty of money, just can't manage it for crap!)

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So basically since childhood I've had females constantly telling me what to do and how to behave and whatever else, so it only seems natural that after awhile I got used to it, and then to the point where I wanted to be dominated at an intellectual level, sexually, physically and in any other way possible.


I also grew up with a very dominanting mother and females telling me what to do and I ended up a hetero sub so go figure...I think I got sick of dealing with dominant women and formed a negative view of them.

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n closing, I personally think that doms and subs can be the way they are based on natural life events, rather than just all of a sudden deciding they want to enter the lifestyle. So what do you think?


I think for me it was based somehow on natural life events...I can't remember a time when I wasn't interested in the thought of women being abused, used, tortured etc (I'm just glad I found a healthy, sane way to indulge those perverse desires).

I do find it interesting though that I am usually dominant with people other than my sexual partner..within my group of friends, my coworkers, etc, I am almost always "the leader".




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