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Dominating a TV/TS? - 3/6/2007 11:36:16 PM

SubmissiveAK

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For those of you interested, I am curious. When it comes to feminization, and the lengths to you hope to take a sub into, how do you go about dominating the Transvestite and the Transgendered? To take joy in finding ways to humiliate a shy sissy, bringing him to do things he never dreamed he would do... or would you rather change a faltering male into a sweet, submissive girl...

Is it better to watch him simper and squirm for your sake, or to work hard and become a sub/slavegirl you can be proud of...

How do you feel such transformations relate to submission? While its true that Forced can never exactly be forced, I would imagine that you can push someone past limits they never even considered before. And for those who want to go full time, those who truely need this... What then? Is it still submission, do you craft them into a woman in your own image?

I would appreciate hearing your thoughts and opinions in this matter. :-)

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RE: Dominating a TV/TS? - 3/7/2007 4:51:02 AM

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As a pre-op TS woman, I'm not sure I understand what youre saying? That I live as female 24/7 has nothing to do with anything erotic at all - its an entirely separate thing for me, allowing me to be myself and be treated for who I am in my daily life. There would be little point in anyone trying to feminise me either, as aside from the obvious, I dont see how I could be, having gone so far already under my own power, for entirely different reasons, and it wouldnt do anything for me either! Although, if anyone wants to contribute towards the SRS fund, then they are entirely free to do so LOL!

Now, apparently at least, everyone sees me as female in my daily life, even those who knew me before all this were not overly surprised at my transition, since there was always something "wrong" with me before which now seems to have been put right. From what I understand now, I was always feminine - not effeminate mind, which is a different thing, so crossing the border has resolved that disparity. Given what I said on the sissies & partners thread about femininity, (response to your post), it should be no surprise to you to hear that all through my former life, I had no idea that I was "wrong" in that way; I was being me as far as I was concerned, and even when I was told to stop "acting like a girl" and was forced into "being a man" by way of "man's work" etc, I was still me and still picked on for being feminine, despite my best efforts to take part in whatever it was. When I transitioned, I did so easily and to great success - literally, it was natural to me. I've been living as female now for four+ years, and have come across plenty of others in my position for whom it doesnt come naturally, though I dont doubt their conviction that transition is right for them.

This, along with my post on the other thread, indicates to me that you cannot make someone feminine - they either are, or theyre not. Sure, its possible to make someone look feminine according to a certain idea of femininity, but you can never really change their character and personal identity on a long term basis by such a degree, even if theyre willing to take part in such a process. You can put them on hormone treatments, pay for surgical interventions and so on, but in the end, even with willingness, its not going to work out well if there is such a disjoint between what they end up looking like and who they are as a person. In fact, its going to be a disaster.

But as a periodic/temporary thing, then assuming SSC you can do whatever. This is where eroticised transformations belong after all, in the periodic/temporary world - they cease to be erotically charged when they are once and permanent I would argue, since they become thereby the mundane and lose their effect. Its from the change that the crossdresser derives his enjoyment too - for most, it would be a nightmare beyond belief to have to actually live as the alter-ego despite their fantasies.

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RE: Dominating a TV/TS? - 3/7/2007 12:54:50 PM

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A sissy, a crossdresser and a transgender individuals have different dynamics. I am currently involved with a transgendered girl, and we have no forced femme dynamic. Why do you ask? She already is a girl.

I think each dynamic is individual. If you where asking this question for wank off fantasies... go buy some porn.This girly-girl will not be providing any.

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RE: Dominating a TV/TS? - 3/8/2007 3:50:08 AM

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Im not looking for wanking materiel, far from it.

I asked the question because I want to get a handle on how a Mistress views gender and submission. There are so many differences in crossdressing, sissies, GID, et al... I am wondering if my transitioning can be submissive at all. I do it for myself, and to make a Mistress proud, but its really not obedience if I have to do so, is it?

Forced Fem fantasies, real Femdom feminization fantasies are just that, fantasies. You cant really force someone to change, even though its what many dream about. I want to know if Domme's, those who are interested in Sissy's or Femme males or Females, do they have the same fantasies?

I consider myself a transexual, Im starting to transition. No, it has nothing to do with my fantasies. It is a seperate thing, but does it have to be? I do remember finding those fantasies at an early age, and sometimes I wish I grew to be a submissive female at someone else's hand, but I wonder if that kind of thing ever really happens.

I hope that people will see me as a female, I hope I can live as one and it wont be any different in public than any other girl. In private, in submission I see it differently. Though I am a girl, I may look like one and even come to have SRS, that doesnt mean I consider myself a dominant female. I consider myself female, but I still consider other females to be supperior. Not because I was born a male, but because I am sub and it is my place.

With due respect LadyEllen, I think Feminity can be instilled. Being female cannot be, in my opinion. You could take an boy and feminize his body, but he would still be a boy as much as we are/were girls in male bodies. Feminity, mannerisms and behaviors can be taught and learned, cant they? I feel I am a female, but I am far from feminine. Im not very masculine, but I need to work on being more feminine. Its my hope that someday I can be taught to be submissive and sweet and femme, but if not I will still be female.

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RE: Dominating a TV/TS? - 3/8/2007 1:08:51 PM

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We see alot of trolling threads, I am glad you are not one of them. Your transition is an individual thing. What attracts you sexually is individual as well.

If you are asking is you can be a submissive female, yes .If you are asking if you can learn to be pleasing to a Mistress as a female ,yes. Will you have changes in what attracts you as part of your transition, who knows. It is probable tho, considering the amount of changes that happen physically and psychologically. A person who has undergone such a proces would be far more able to answer them than I. A good support person who is undergoing or has undergone this is a good resourse to bounce off ideas from. Gender politics can be interesting. I know I do can only speak of my experiences of being a partner.

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