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SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 4:07:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle while i am sure rape play is arousing to some, due to my own experiences with rape (particularly knives used during rape), rape and knife play are both touchy subjects for me. not unapproachable, but touchy, and the scenario posed would freak me the hell out, personally. Yes this is true. I am sorry to hear of your real life situation. This is why it is discussed before hand and consented to. the idea of using a knife without discussing it beforehand really bothers me, personally. maybe it's cause of my reservations with knife play, but i could imagine this would bother even those with no prior bad experiences with knives. Even asking a submissive if they have any limits and discussing them does not cover all that this session can entail. One must devise a specific rape play scenero limit check list and have them sign it before hand either electronically or in person as I do. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 4:08:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch Sir Discipliner, If you ever write a book or a screenplay I will be the first one in line to buy it!! Here is yet another of your posts that will go directly into my 'filing cabinet' for (ahem) later reference... Regards, BSB Thank you. If you ever wished to be considered for casting let Me know as I am sure We might be able to come to some mutual agreement.[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 4:10:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mynded Is exactly why I love vampire tales of seduction. [;)] Yes indeed. I have incorporated My mouth on the jugular and light biting...if the response if favorable to biting can be slowly increased in pressure to include all body parts.... Including genitalia. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 4:15:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 I have a bunch of Spyderco knives. One of which I ground the edge off for weapons sparring. Amusing to whip that one out in a scene where she is bound but not blindfolded, and attack as the Psychotic Cuisanarte of Doom. So far, I have not grabbed the wrong knife... It is not so much the props but how it is done. The reassurance in stance and confidence along with the coolness in voice tone brings the hotness to the mindfuckery. The wickedness of being able to carry it off as I say is also a real eye opener to submissives. It can be as real as they want excluding the reality of physical harm...the struggle...over powering and verbage. The scenereo and setup is important rather than the end results as both consenting parties know where it will end up. The deliciousness is in the anticpation and the savoring of that like a fine wine. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 4:37:46 AM)
Rape scenereos is all about the mental realm as it is a power trip...the fight and struggle and the over powering not just of the body but of the mind. Forcing a submissive to submit (with consent) to the intruder's desires and to verbalize what is being done to her and then to have her verbalize them back in acknowledgement is pretty powerful stuff. Without the mental mindset present it is all rather mechanical. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 5:38:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Rape scenereos is all about the mental realm as it is a power trip...the fight and struggle and the over powering not just of the body but of the mind. Forcing a submissive to submit (with consent) to the intruder's desires and to verbalize what is being done to her and then to have her verbalize them back in acknowledgement is pretty powerful stuff. Without the mental mindset present it is all rather mechanical. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Well said.

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 5:44:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch Sir Discipliner, If you ever write a book or a screenplay I will be the first one in line to buy it!! Here is yet another of your posts that will go directly into my 'filing cabinet' for (ahem) later reference... Regards, BSB Thank you. If you ever wished to be considered for casting let Me know as I am sure We might be able to come to some mutual agreement.[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Deal!

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 6:27:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch Sir Discipliner, If you ever write a book or a screenplay I will be the first one in line to buy it!! Here is yet another of your posts that will go directly into my 'filing cabinet' for (ahem) later reference... Regards, BSB Thank you. If you ever wished to be considered for casting let Me know as I am sure We might be able to come to some mutual agreement.[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Deal! Ok...send Me your pic via messages. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] See what attributes might put you in the running for casting. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

daddysprop247 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 8:26:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Safe, Sane , Consentual Ever fantasize about being over powered and taken by an attractive strong virile intruder? Ever wonder what it would be like to in the middle of a conversation to be slowly fondled while trying to ignore it and then being pushed back and entered? Dreamed about what it would be like to taken unaware and to struggle but only to be over powered and ridden hard? Arms pinned back by the wrists and thighs splayed open by an intruders knees awaiting something massive and pulsating to penetrate? The anticipation followed by the taking and then being ridden to climax as your body betrays you? Perhaps you left your door unlocked and you were in the shower. Or you fell asleep nude on your bed face down. Or you answered a knock at the door . Let's talk about it. Nothing will happen without your consent but it will happen in a safe, sane consentual enviroment if you wish. Over and over if you wish. Do you wish? Do you desire? Do you dare? Thank you. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© SSC...i understand that's a philosophy you believe in and live by SirDiscipliner, but SSC is just not a part of everyone's way. in that one way i suppose my Master may be a bit "edgier" than yourself smiles...He cares for me dearly but he also has his personal sadistic and perverse drives that need quenching, and he will take a fair amount of risks with his property in order to make that happen. He also does not believe in doing anything with a slave's pleasure/comfort/enjoyment in mind. but being a perverted lil subbie myself, of course i have fantasies of rape, abduction, etc. and i share these with him. what he will do is, rather than fulfill my fantasies in a way that would translate as pleasureable for me, he twists and tweaks them to meet his own desires to see me suffering and tormented. but i am an emotional masochist, so this still fulfills something within me. the major scenario that he says may happen next month or next year or whenever, involves me being abducted from some public place by 3 or 4 strange men, just picked up and thrown into the back of a van or into a car trunk. quickly blindfolded and gagged, maybe lightly bound, first. then being driven off to the middle of nowhere, thrown out of the vehicle onto the ground, and have all my holes used brutally by all the men...lots of verbal degradation, and of course lots of beating (punching, kicking). when it was all said and done i should be bleeding from every hole, be covered with deep bruises, have a split lip and a cracked rib or two. the finale of course would involve being showered in their urine. when they were done they'd put me back in the vehicle, drive down a major road or highway and simply push me out on the side of the road, with the vehicle barely coming to a stop. and just leave me there, for my Master to find sometime soon afterwards. so what do you think of that one, as far as the practicalities of it?

sugarcoatedscamp -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 8:49:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Even asking a submissive if they have any limits and discussing them does not cover all that this session can entail. One must devise a specific rape play scenero limit check list and have them sign it before hand either electronically or in person as I do. Any chance I could get a copy?

Devilslilsister -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 9:34:34 AM)
i think dumping you some where would be too risky and might end up noticed by the police. Logically, i would think they should leave you in the woods (or where ever) for your Master to find you. By pushing you out of the car onto the side of the road, just opens up doors to be noticed by police. And no matter what you say to the police, being brused, with broken ribs, and bleeding from every hole (AND nekkid) they wont believe a word you say. i'd say leave the roads alone. Too many passerby's that might want to "rescue" you. Have them dump you some where in the middle of no where.. a pasture.. the woods... maybe even a dirt road that is barely ever used.. i think, as a precautionary idea, you might have your Master tell you a "code" word before hand and when you are abducted to have one of them say it as well. That way you know to either A) fight for your life because you're being abducted by a bunch of crazy men or B) know things are going a long as should. Course you might like that added element of not knowing, but just a thought.

daddysprop247 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 9:47:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister i think dumping you some where would be too risky and might end up noticed by the police. Logically, i would think they should leave you in the woods (or where ever) for your Master to find you. By pushing you out of the car onto the side of the road, just opens up doors to be noticed by police. And no matter what you say to the police, being brused, with broken ribs, and bleeding from every hole (AND nekkid) they wont believe a word you say. i'd say leave the roads alone. Too many passerby's that might want to "rescue" you. Have them dump you some where in the middle of no where.. a pasture.. the woods... maybe even a dirt road that is barely ever used.. i think, as a precautionary idea, you might have your Master tell you a "code" word before hand and when you are abducted to have one of them say it as well. That way you know to either A) fight for your life because you're being abducted by a bunch of crazy men or B) know things are going a long as should. Course you might like that added element of not knowing, but just a thought. lilsister...thanks for the advice. you are probably right about passersby or the police possibly becoming involved if they left me on the side of a major road. but naturally that is part of the appeal for two pervs like us. :) then too ideally my Master would be in the area already, and say they could give him a call when they are about to dump me, and he could come get me within say 10 minutes?? if it's at nighttime, which ideally it would be, i may not be noticed. plus to be honest people around here tend to be snooty and standoffish..not at all the good samaritan type. but that is something to think about... oh, as far as the fighting for my life thing, if i was weirdly abducted by total strangers and not those he had sent for me..that's not something i'm ever permitted to do anyway. He wishes me to "save" myself by complete submission, not by going against my nature and his training and fighting.

StellaByStarlite -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 10:05:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Rape scenereos is all about the mental realm as it is a power trip...the fight and struggle and the over powering not just of the body but of the mind. Forcing a submissive to submit (with consent) to the intruder's desires and to verbalize what is being done to her and then to have her verbalize them back in acknowledgement is pretty powerful stuff. Without the mental mindset present it is all rather mechanical. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Amen to that. A rape scene has always been one of my top fantasies that I'd love to put into motion, but my owner is also my husband of 3 years. In our case, it's him that can't get into the mindset. Which is understandable... he loves me so much! Any ideas on how to "ease" ourselves into it? Thanks and Cheers, Stella

BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 10:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch Sir Discipliner, If you ever write a book or a screenplay I will be the first one in line to buy it!! Here is yet another of your posts that will go directly into my 'filing cabinet' for (ahem) later reference... Regards, BSB Thank you. If you ever wished to be considered for casting let Me know as I am sure We might be able to come to some mutual agreement.[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Deal! Ok...send Me your pic via messages. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] See what attributes might put you in the running for casting. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Ross, You have mail...

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 11:32:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 [SSC...i understand that's a philosophy you believe in and live by SirDiscipliner, but SSC is just not a part of everyone's way. in that one way i suppose my Master may be a bit "edgier" than yourself smiles... Perhaps you forgot My post regarding *RACK - RISK AWARE CONSENUAL KINK & EDGE PLAYERS* http://www.collarchat.com/m_775732/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm that you contributed to? I am not carving notches so he can have that title you bestow on him...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Hmmmm.... Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 11:40:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: daddysprop247 the major scenario that he says may happen next month or next year or whenever, involves me being abducted from some public place by 3 or 4 strange men, just picked up and thrown into the back of a van or into a car trunk. quickly blindfolded and gagged, maybe lightly bound, first. then being driven off to the middle of nowhere, thrown out of the vehicle onto the ground, and have all my holes used brutally by all the men...lots of verbal degradation, and of course lots of beating (punching, kicking). when it was all said and done i should be bleeding from every hole, be covered with deep bruises, have a split lip and a cracked rib or two. the finale of course would involve being showered in their urine. when they were done they'd put me back in the vehicle, drive down a major road or highway and simply push me out on the side of the road, with the vehicle barely coming to a stop. and just leave me there, for my Master to find sometime soon afterwards. so what do you think of that one, as far as the practicalities of it? I have enjoyed a few kidnapping sessions...gagged her, bound and covered with a blanket in the back of the car...stopping on side roads to fondle and examine... Another couple having them sit in the front seat handcuffed behind the seat and driving to thier place while I find their warm dampness turning to hot wetness betraying their consent protests. I would have to draw the line at the violence...punching, kicking and broken ribs....or the vehical assault... I do not need to betray the submissive's trust in not revealing to the world what went on...sort of like taking out a neon sign or billboard...just not My cup of tea. I once mentioned to a sub that I was reading a version of O that was illustrated and it showed o on bound on the hood of a car...she immediately wanted to do that. Sometimes things are just best left for fantasy... I personally do not see the practicality of the events of violence that you mentioned ....nor the legal ramifications of witnessing public. Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 11:41:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sugarcoatedscamp quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Even asking a submissive if they have any limits and discussing them does not cover all that this session can entail. One must devise a specific rape play scenero limit check list and have them sign it before hand either electronically or in person as I do. Any chance I could get a copy? Yes. Why do you wish to fill it out and return it to Me?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 11:47:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: StellaByStarlite quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Rape scenereos is all about the mental realm as it is a power trip...the fight and struggle and the over powering not just of the body but of the mind. Forcing a submissive to submit (with consent) to the intruder's desires and to verbalize what is being done to her and then to have her verbalize them back in acknowledgement is pretty powerful stuff. Without the mental mindset present it is all rather mechanical. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© Amen to that. A rape scene has always been one of my top fantasies that I'd love to put into motion, but my owner is also my husband of 3 years. In our case, it's him that can't get into the mindset. Which is understandable... he loves me so much! Any ideas on how to "ease" ourselves into it? Thanks and Cheers, Stella I have always been an advocate of communication. Did you by chance see the links I previously supplied in post 84 of the link below? http://www.collarchat.com/m_875085/mpage_5/key_/tm.htm you may wish to tell him you found them interesting..have him read them...followed up by a video of such desired activities just before bedtime.... Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

daddysprop247 -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 11:56:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 I have enjoyed a few kidnapping sessions...gagged her, bound and covered with a blanket in the back of the car...stopping on side roads to fondle and examine... Another couple having them sit in the front seat handcuffed behind the seat and driving to thier place while I find their warm dampness turning to hot wetness betraying their consent protests. I would have to draw the line at the violence...punching, kicking and broken ribs....or the vehical assault... I do not need to betray the submissive's trust in not revealing to the world what went on...sort of like taking out a neon sign or billboard...just not My cup of tea. I once mentioned to a sub that I was reading a version of O that was illustrated and it showed o on bound on the hood of a car...she immediately wanted to do that. Sometimes things are just best left for fantasy... I personally do not see the practicality of the events of violence that you mentioned ....nor the legal ramifications of witnessing public. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© well, my Master is not shy about doing or subjecting me to things, even "extreme" things in public, as there are always ways to avoid being seen. also we have learned that the more people are crowding an area (like say a mall or store parking lot), the less likely it is for anyone to take notice of you, whereas in relatively isolated areas (like a park during school hours) , you will stand out like a neon sign. as for the RACK thing, yes of course i recall that thread...however we don't see a great difference between the two (SSC and RACK) and don't practice/believe in either. so while others may engage in "edgier" activities than ourselves, or more bdsm-heavy activities, the things we do are not tempered by the tenets of safe, sane, or consent, nor the idea that all things should be done for mutual pleasure or enjoyment.

Devilslilsister -> RE: Rape Play Overpowering Rough Sex (3/9/2007 12:30:47 PM)
quote: lilsister...thanks for the advice. you are probably right about passersby or the police possibly becoming involved if they left me on the side of a major road. but naturally that is part of the appeal for two pervs like us. :) then too ideally my Master would be in the area already, and say they could give him a call when they are about to dump me, and he could come get me within say 10 minutes?? if it's at nighttime, which ideally it would be, i may not be noticed. plus to be honest people around here tend to be snooty and standoffish..not at all the good samaritan type. but that is something to think about... oh, as far as the fighting for my life thing, if i was weirdly abducted by total strangers and not those he had sent for me..that's not something i'm ever permitted to do anyway. He wishes me to "save" myself by complete submission, not by going against my nature and his training and fighting. Ok. Seems like you two have already thought out all practicalities. 10 minutes isnt too bad either and night time would be best. Plus if its part of the thrill, then you wouldnt really want to cut that part out completely. LOL on the snooty and standofish.... there's alot of people like that around! BUT there is always one person in a crowd who wants to be a "hero". Ya know, your Master could be right about the saving via submission thing. Generally its when ladies fight back that they get the blood pumping in their attackers even more. In the past i've always saved myself via humour. I think it boils down to not getting their aggression going... dunno. Oh hey, i just thought about something else. Remember earlier in this thread where you spoke about the power trip and a man going toooo far? Has your Master thought about what a "group mentality" might be like? i doubt there is much farther to go then what is already laid out, but its a thought. (Not like i know what a group mentality is really.... i just know that groups of men seem more prone to do things they shouldnt then one alone) Good luck on this. If you're allowed or even feeling up to it, it'd be interesting to hear how it went.

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