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LaraVictore -> Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 9:51:08 AM)

I don't get the all fascination about strap-ons and dildos. Used anally, they make sure that their lovers have to wear diapers prematurely, no pun intended. I smirk and laugh when reading about the wonders of the huge plastic penis! It is, certainly not, a black's favorite gadget. I have NEVER seen a black guy with a dildo even in my extravagantly free spirited 20 years past vanila era! But in Domination, I found it fun to tease with My strapon a nice Black submissive: he loved those webcam sessions!  Domination is not a pre-established world; it is a paradox that many cherish, right? My loving white xlave does not get it strapped to him very often, so what the heck am I doing here? Strapon deal or no deal? Only with a stranger! Hey, I am BAD, a Boldy Active Domina. Wat was the question again?
Ebony Mistress Lara Victore
http://www.starparis.com/mistressstrapon.html




babyboyk -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 9:57:36 AM)

im guessing it is showing Dommination of the sub by the Domminant, particuarlly male subs, as most guys dont tend to like having power taken away from them, as they see themselves as being in charge.....




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 11:08:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaraVictore
they make sure that their lovers have to wear diapers prematurely
http://www.starparis.com/mistressstrapon.html


I'm WAY less apt to visit your site given your knowledge, or lack thereof, of the subject. I don't see all that many gay men in diapers...

Master Fire




SoCalOTKhristine -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 11:21:13 AM)

My first and only experience with a strap on was with a Dom friend/mentor.  I was totally into the idea of trying the strap on on myself and doing him with it.  I had had sexual dreams in which I was the "man", and remember enjoying them.  So, I was all game.  Mind you, I am primarily a sub...very new...inexperienced.

He brought out this MONSTER dildo.  It wasn't black, but it was probably 24 inches in length, 3 or 4 in girth.  It scared the shit out of me.  First off, it was awkward and didn't "saddle" properly in the strap.  I am only 5'4", about 130 pounds, the thing weighed a good 3-5 pounds....yikes.

Need I say, "I didn't like the experience"...I had suggested to my mentor that for my first "try" we do something of "average" size, but NOOOO.  I couldn't control it, so he ended up topping it...The guy is 6'5", 310 pounds...nothing about this scene was attractive or fun.  He just went too far, and freaked me out.

However, I am still up for trying this again with an average sized dildo, on a guy who wants me to do it to him.  I don't look at it as a power thing...I just had some damned good dreams where I had a penis and I used it...I want to attempt to recreate that and see if I like it.

But, since I am a sub, I may have some trouble hoping my future dom desires that I do this to him...but we shall see!!

So, if the monster strap on is only used once in a great while for my friend's pleasure (it won't be by me I can tell you that much), do you think that will cause future issues requiring diapers?  Or, is this something to worry about only if it is a day to day type activity?  I wonder about these things, since I do like Anal activites (I do have a limit on size though).




toservez -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 1:51:22 PM)

To discard the stretching issue/future diaper as what seems a way to slant the question, I can see why men find a dildo and strap on to be a powerful physical manifestation of power exchange.

I know in my experience few things sexual if any surpass being taken anally and especially by a woman wearing a strap on. As a woman I am use to things going into my holes so I can only imagine that for a man to get that treatment that it would be quite a powerful thing.

The physical showing of a power exchange relationship is important to most and I would think this is why penetration for a male submissive is a thing that they find enjoyable.




Squeakers -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 3:37:40 PM)

   It know a self proclaimed black Dom, although, I personally wouldn't consider him one unless it's Domineering.   Anyways, he had his own dildo, that was for his use.    He doesn't wear diapers that I know of but he does have IBS---does that count?




RWAble -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 4:00:54 PM)

Whats????IBS?????




Arpig -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/9/2007 6:28:22 PM)

What does the blackness or whiteness of a sub have to do with anything. Would somebody please explain this American fascination with race, I mean I can understand finding or not finding a particular race's general looks or skin colour and characteristics appealing, but that is about it.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (3/11/2007 3:42:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RWAble

Whats????IBS?????


IBS is Irritable Bowel Syndrom and is caused by irritation of the small and/or large intestine. It has nothing to do with the parts of the digestive system that are involved with strap-on play. If IBS were caused by it, I'd have to undergo a lot of therapy...'cause it would mean that I don't remember any of the anal sex I'm having that causes my IBS. Maybe I get abducted by aliens frequently.

Master Fire




LaraVictore -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (4/23/2007 6:03:52 AM)

Anal penetration done without moderation, causes the ring around the anus to lose its elasticity forever (words of a  Parisian pro femme fatale coming from 3 generations of courtisane:).
It is possible that they will find, somedays, a medical way to rejuvenate the thing, just as they do with the vaginal muscle nowadays, because the problem is big in the plastic surgery paradise: Los Angeles. Or why not a prothese?:), if it is not already done.
Personally, I don't have this problem as I will never be straponed in this life time and know many erotical thrilling anal plays and techniques without penetration.
Thank you for the private letters telling me that I am right. It is not about being right or wrong, it is about THAT ONE PERSON, who feels glad to be warned about the strap-on  hidden charges.
Ebony Mistress Lara Victore
www.laravictore.com




stockingluvr54 -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (4/23/2007 8:31:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: toservez

The physical showing of a power exchange relationship is important to most and I would think this is why penetration for a male submissive is a thing that they find enjoyable.



I think you're right on about this? Having small objects shoved up there a few times (small vibrators,fingers)...I know that for me it was somewhat painful and not all that enjoyable physically. On the other hand....just the THOUGHT of a woman "taking" me with a strapon is highly erotic? I'd probably cry like a baby but the mindfuck would be very powerful.....




RythymMan -> RE: Strap on deal? It depends! (4/23/2007 12:26:38 PM)


yes, that is right.  All muscles lose tone and strength with
repeated use.   That is why bicyclists have those itsy bitsy legs,
weight lifters have arms like chicken legs.  The key to 6-pack abs?  stay perfectly still!


The following is a pubic service announcement from another channel.

First of all, the sphincter is built to be elastic. That's what it *does*. It stretches out to allow feces to exit, and then closes down again. So all those fantasy stories about people who get fisted until they can't hold their shit, that's fantasy. You will be able to shit just fine, even after frequent fistings, assuming that it has been done correctly and not left you with swelling and inflammation (in which case shitting too readily will not be the problem!) However, will your ass stay tight? Depends. How often does your master intend to fistfuck you? If he wants to do it something like one to three times a week (or more, but I don't suggest much more than that because asses are finicky and can get sore) then yes, it will loosen up over time. I'll go into *how* loose in just a moment. But fear not: I'd say that after six months of no fisting and very little penetration, you'd have your tight hole back. Asshole easiness is a use-it-or-lose-it proposition. Is your master the only one using your ass right now, or is this an issue of not wanting to ruin your tight hole for other partners? If it's the first, and your master would rather have you loose and easily fistable than tight for his cock, then that's the way of things (assuming you're actually owned). You can give him this post and let him make the decision. If you are lending that tight butt to other people who wouldn't appreciate it being loose, then this is something that you'd better discuss with your master. If you are only doing it with your master, but you worry that it won't feel as good for you or him if you're looser, there's always the issue of using larger dildoes. No matter how loose your hole is, you can find something big enough to give you the same sensation of fullness as a finger in a virgin ass. And as for it getting too loose to be tight around his cock, well, first, he can't have his cake and eat it too; he'd better decide whether he prefers an easily fistable ass or a tight one....or he could do a double anal and stick other things, like a vibrator, up there next to his cock. I know of at least one gay man with a fisting bottom who straps on a vibrator-dildo so that it lays just above his cock, and shoves both in at once - he says that it feels awesome for both partners. Also, if your master is really into seeing big wide ass gapes, he'd best not do it too often. An asshole that is loosened up and used to fisting will close right down again quickly as soon as the big thing is removed from it. "Ass gaping" is the response of an ass that isn't used to large and lengthy penetration, and is having trouble quickly readjusting. Even then, it's usually gone in under a minute. Once your ass is used to it, it readjusts and closes literally as the object is exiting. OK, so how loose? I'll give you an idea. Right now, hold your jaw so that your teeth are about half an inch apart, just barely enough to get your finger between. Keep your mouth closed. Purse your lips tightly and run your fingers over them. You will feel that you have two rings of muscle around your lips, one inner ring that tightens the lip edges, and one outer ring that draws them in on the upper lip below the nose and lower lip at the chin. When you're tightly pursing your lips, you are using both rings of muscle. Insert your finger through your tightly pursed lips. That's like a tight asshole. That's the "normal" at-rest state of an anus, and the one that it will always revert back to after many months of no assplay. It should be somewhat difficult to get your finger through. Now take a small dildo and slowly push it into your mouth, keeping your lip muscles tight (but moving your jaw open). You can feel the resistance, and feel your lips clamped against the dildo. That's like fucking a tight ass. Take the dildo out. Now relax the inner ring of muscle, but keep the outer ring tightened. This will make the edges of your lips softer, and protrude them outward somewhat. The outer ring, however, is still closing in. (It's rather like what your mouth does when making a strong RRRR noise.) Stick your finger in that hole; feel how although it's still closed enough to keep shit in, you can get your finger - or maybe two or three - in easily. That's the at-rest state of an anus that is fisted at least weekly plus has some other fucking going on at other times. Now stick that dildo in your mouth, keeping the outer ring of muscles tight but the inner one loose, and feel that although there's still tension, it's much easier to get it in. Try seeing how many fingers you can get in there (allowing for hand and mouth size discrepancies, of course). This will give you a good idea of what you can expect. Generally you can expect to have months or even more than a year of work before you work up to being easily fisted, with your asshole good and used to it. Fisting is a form of sexual yoga and requires lots of practice. And, as I said, if you slack off, it will start to go back to its tighter state. So if your master dumps you and you worry that he's ruined your asshole, just quit doing anything with it for half a year or more, and it'll get tight again. Whatever you do, don't injure your asshole. They are finicky divas and you have to treat them well, or you will be sorry later in life. My wife had rotten lovers who mistreated her ass for years before she met me, and now as she approaches 50 she is plagued by hemorrhoids, and can no longer do any assplay at all. You can do all sorts of extreme assplay and not injure yourself, as long as it is done with patience and care and lots, lots, lots of lube. No matter how rough you let people be with your other bits, assplay should be gentle and not terribly painful. Some discomfort and intense sensation is OK, but if it really hurts, you are doing it wrong, period. Keep this is mind if you are going to become a fisting bottom. One more thing...It may be that your master loves the idea, on some level, of stretching your nice tight ass out semi-permanently because it will ruin you for all those guys out there who might be interested in it. I did this vaginally to a slave - I introduced them to vaginal fisting, and they loved it, and over a period of time I fisted them regularly and trained their vagina such that ordinary-size cock was no longer enough of a sensation for satisfaction there. I did this largely for my own amusement, as an ego trip (and hey, we owners need our occasional harmless ego trips, right?) because this particular bottom had been very promiscuous with a whole lot of men before me, and it was sexy to reshape a little cock-whore into a total fisting slut, knowing that this made cunt-fucking most of the male population physically unsatisfying to them (as most straight men won't do fisting because it doesn't get them off, and it makes them feel insecure), "ruining" them for "ordinary" sex. At least that was the fantasy that I played out in my head - you'd have to ask the bottom in question how effective it was - and you might want to find out if this fantasy is lurking in your master's head too - getting you addicted to his fist and ruining you for all those hordes of anonymous cock. It's a thought.










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