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what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/9/2007 5:22:24 PM

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A friend recently asked me to write a little about my definition of a "sophisticated" dom(me). I have my own ideas, but would like to hear what y'all think about this.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 2:17:32 AM

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Hmmm... One that doesn't fart in the middle of a scene?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 2:23:40 AM

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I like that!.....
One who doesn't take the light fittings out when using a bullwhip.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 2:51:30 AM

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He knows what vintage wine goes with which subbie, when he has them on their heads with their vagina's being used as drinkiing vessels?

Has his genitals shaved each morning by his man servant, so his subbie can really enjoy the fellatio experience?

Has his crops and whips discretly marked so he doesn't confuse which is for his horses, his ponies and his pony girls?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 4:06:10 AM

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i was thinking of someone who doesn't blow their nose at the dinner table... but being able to refrain from farting during a scene works too. LOL

Too often we seem to forget that Dom/mes are people and the same character traits that make them excellent human beings are the same traits that make them excellent Dom/me or sub or whatever. Sophistication is one of those traits that isn't specific to ones role within WIITWD. i have learned, however, that sophistication is one of those traits very often feigned. Some people think that if they drink wine and listen to jazz they are automatically "sophisticated" . Sophisicated is to be refined, less simple, more complex. If we try to apply that definition specifically to the role of Dom/me is could refer to experience, skill sets and decorum.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 4:07:14 AM

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when i hear the word sophisticated, I think of the word debonair.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 5:00:55 AM

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Sophistication is such an interesting word, etymologically. I wonder if Plato would approve of its connotations and meanings today?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 6:33:48 AM

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As puella suggests, the meanings of the word has changed profoundly over the centuries. Today, I think the generally accepted definition is:

sophisticated character, ideas, tastes, or ways as the result of education, worldly experience, etc.: the sophistication of the wealthy.

That being said, I have to admit I have never heard the term "sophisticated Dom" used. It is another one of those manufactured phrases meant to elevate someone above the rest.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 6:39:28 AM

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And here I was thinking of that catfood commercial with the ugly persian cat eating out of a crystal dish.....................

silly me

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 7:18:32 AM

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Sophisticated is an adjective. Synonyms include worldly, refined, complex, and subtle. You would prefix "sophisticated" to "dominant" to more precisely describe the person (or archetype) in question. It's not a generic "good quality" word--some people are indifferent to sophistication, although I don't know anyone who proclaims its undesirability. It's a description of a particular quality, just like "gruff" and "relaxed" indicate other distinct qualities. As far as I know, "sophisticated" is not a word that takes on special BDSM meanings. ("Scat" is an example of a word that means something special in BDSM contexts.) Why would the adjective "sophisticated" suddenly mean something special when applied to a dominant?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 2:36:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

Sophistication is such an interesting word, etymologically. I wonder if Plato would approve of its connotations and meanings today?

Plato would not approve of anything today, but then we probably would not have much use for Plato if he were around.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 3:08:43 PM

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Hmmm perhaps not, but then, I doubt we would have much use or tolerance for Jesus today either (and I am including the fundamentalists in my usage of we), were he to come walking around in the same manner he did last time.... it doesn't mean we are getting better.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 7:21:43 PM

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Thanks for the responses, but I think that my question was misunderstood.
When I referred to sophisticated, I meant someone who is sophisticated in their dominant practices, as opposed to a more general definition of a sophisticated person. Sorry I wasn't clear.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 7:39:06 PM

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hrm... I am sorry, but I still do not know what you mean. What do you think makes one Dom sophisticated, and another not?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/10/2007 7:44:44 PM

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So, are you referring to one's style of dominance being more complex--perhaps with more ceremony, structure, and rituals?

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/11/2007 4:35:30 PM

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Dear Muse:
I think that you have gotten the essence of what I was asking- thanks.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/11/2007 5:33:59 PM

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To me, a sophisticated domme is not just the one who can pick out a wine but she is the one who uses her mind to control her slaves rather than resulting to brute force, that is my prefered method anyway. There is no need for shouting and beating a man to death when i can make him melt and come to my way of thinking through compelling argument, verbal teaching, gentle coaxing, loving encouragement, positive reinforcement.
Much better than beating obediance out of a slave; to rule with fear is inferior to the use of love and understanding.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/13/2007 12:34:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic

As puella suggests, the meanings of the word has changed profoundly over the centuries. Today, I think the generally accepted definition is:

sophisticated character, ideas, tastes, or ways as the result of education, worldly experience, etc.: the sophistication of the wealthy.

That being said, I have to admit I have never heard the term "sophisticated Dom" used. It is another one of those manufactured phrases meant to elevate someone above the rest.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

I dunno if you can say that being wealthy equates sophistication. I sit at poker tables with some fairly wealthy people quite often. I'd say most of them are pretty ill-mannered. But maybe all the well-behaved wealthy are out playing polo or sailing.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/13/2007 12:40:40 AM

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As a true "sophisticated Dom" I can relay to you the foundation is based on wearing an ascot during unlubricated anal.

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RE: what is a "sophisticated" dom(me)? - 3/13/2007 12:49:51 AM

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i cannot see the difference between the "sophisticated" Dom/me you inquire aboout and the "experienced" One. One who has practiced and practiced until His or Her techniques are brilliant. One who uses mental as well as physical controls. One who has had a submissive or slave before but has had to end that relationship through no fault of Their own.

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