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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 4:29:46 AM   
cjenny


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I'm surprised and dismayed that this seems to be 'news' to so many. It's been going on for years, the level of decay within the buildings didn't happen overnight.
Gulf War vets also had the same problems, lack of quality care after returning home. Vietnam vets had huge problems. Particularly those that received head injuries, much of that data is just now coming to light.
I understand the need for using our people as soldiers, but I cannot understand the apathy and limited help they receive once home.
How could people not know what was going on? Why did it take a 'scandal' to bring this to the majority?
Those are my questions  .

edit, spelling.

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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 5:59:31 AM   
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Jenny   I believe that the apathy towards our service members comes from the 60's anti-war movement where basically I heard, over and over again, "they got what they deserved".  Blaming the individual soldier for carrying out his orders and fighting a war (without regard to the right or wrong of the war) has been an American passtime for since then.  This war isn't as bad as others, but the mental attitude still exists.

It also goes to cutting the promisses made to soldiers.  We cut the budget and you suffer syndrome - so to speak.

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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 6:13:25 AM   
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You may have a point there Ken, but I rather see it as the effect of budget cutting over years and years when you and we were not fighting wars and didnt have so many casualties. If there are cuts to be made, then in such a situation of no war it would seem an obvious waste of money to spend funds on facilities that are not needed. The problem then becomes, as with this entire debacle, a lack of planning beyond issuing the order to charge.

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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 6:30:20 AM   
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Just an afterthought regarding the lack of planning I referred to....

The British forces went into Iraq without a lot of vital equipment - because in the lead up to the war, the ordering of this equipment may have provided a signal that it was going ahead regardless of what was happening in the UN etc. I might submit that had Bush had military hospitals taken out of mothball, then this would have provided a similar signal. Not politically advantageous.

Although I'll be the first to admit, that the ongoing lack of action on both of these matters - the provision of equipment to British troops and the opening of proper and sufficient medical facilities on both sides, seems to be something that as yet remains unresolved. But then, issuing body armour to British troops, not to mention armoured vehicles in which to patrol so they dont get blown to bits by roadside bombs, might tend to suggest its dangerous out there, and not all warm and cosy as our government might like to think. Likewise with opening sufficient medical facilities.

It pisses me off more than words can say, that two politicians' "legacies" are more important than the suffering and painful deaths and death-in-lifes of thousands.

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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 6:36:12 AM   
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=\  America hasn't gone without a war for a period of more than 20 years at a time.  The constant cutting, I think, is liberals in congress trying to "make world peace" by disarming soldiers.  xD  But surely, I jest.

The biggest lesson everyone needs to remember about any war in Vietnam and before is that they were fought with a drafted military.  The soldiers went to a war they had no choice about, and came home to a country that hated them.  Except for WWI and II.  Now a'days, the people think they're being savvy to the govornment in picking conspiricies and finding lies every where they look.  =\  I dunno...  The American people have been pissing me off, lately.

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RE: Failure of Care for Wounded US Soliders - 3/13/2007 11:18:25 AM   
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Don't discount the class/race issues involved. The all volunteer military draws primarily from the poor and minority communities. Which makes it easy for some scumbag Congressman to vote to cut funding for the VA or military health care.

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