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Ask? Why would I? - 5/20/2004 11:31:49 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		I have come across some sub personal ads here where in their profile space they have just typed "ask me" or simply "ask". What the hell? If you are too lazy to write about yourself, or don't have anything to say about yourself, why should I make any effort to ask you anything?
I'm not talking about the ones that say they will be posting soon, I can understand that. But sorry, no ad is that compelling that I will answer a blank slate. Blank slate = blank sub in my opinion.
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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/20/2004 11:37:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I fully agree.

But then I never contact them first anyway, lolol.

But yeah lack of input/energy/thought/effort equates lack of interest on my end.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 3:24:06 AM   
saddorie


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Status: offline 		Sir, my profile on here was blank for awhile and it had nothing to do with being lazy or not having anything to say about myself or lack of interest on my part. Since I am new and just beginning my explorations of this lifestyle, I had no idea what to say in my profile. It is difficult to express in the written word feelings, wants, desires etc that you do not yet fully understand.

I have updated my profile now but fully expect that it will continually change as I learn more and become more enlightend.

Sometimes asking, especially if the profile is a new one, could be a good thing. You could be helping someone new to lifestyle become more comfortable being able to express themselves and understand those feelings etc, that they are just discovering.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 3:29:37 AM   
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It is difficult to express in the written word feelings, wants, desires etc that you do not yet fully understand.


Why not express that?

"I am posting this ad on collarme because I desire to learn more about the sorts of things discussed on this web site, and wish to find a partner to help me to learn, although I am unable to express in written words the feelings, wants, desires, and other aspects of those things I do not fully understand."

I think the point made was that putting nothing or "I dont know what to write" in your profile on here does not do a very good job of marketing.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 4:25:16 AM   
saddorie


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Status: offline 		LOL, well I think part of it, for me anyway, is that I havent had to "market myself" in a very long time.

I fully understand where Estrict is coming from regarding blank profiles. There are Doms with blank ones also and those do not receive my attention either. My profile was blank for about a week before I completed it. I still received emails from people while it was blank but will readily admit that I have received better quality emails since updating it.

So perhaps, it is simply an irrational fear of expressing desires for all to see. A fear, because of being new, of first experiences being with wrong people, and not even r/t experiences. The first few emails I received on here were so awful I nearly deleted my profile, not wanting to be involved with people like that. Fortunately, that same evening I received one from a very pleasant Dom that took the time to talk to me and begin trying to explain and answer questions.

Since updating my profile, I have had the opportunity to chat with two Masters who have been kind enough to put up with my incessant questions. Some days I feel bad for them, lol.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 4:31:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I feel bad for people who ask me questions, saddorie.

I tend to devil's advocate almost anything. Then, having figured out as many contradictions to it as I can come up with, my next approach is to start figuring out how to use it to make fun of the whole idea.

So asking me questions means you will here 19 different alternatives going from the reasonable to the ridiculous.

I will eventually answer the question seriously, but I generally take the scenic route to get there.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 5:31:25 AM   
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I think the point made was that putting nothing or "I dont know what to write" in your profile on here does not do a very good job of marketing.


Perhaps those who leave their profiles blank, or put something short in them are not here to be "marketed", but rather to explore the territory.

Though I have something in my profile, I'm not here to 'market' myself. If in being here, I make a few friends, a few enemies, and have a good time, that's enough for me. If in the midst of all that I find a dominant that I click with....then all the better, but it's not my main focus.


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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 8:56:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not talking about blank profiles. Or subs that add their thoughts later on. I am talking about the ones who simply type ask me or ask. To me, they are lazy or boring. Or both.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 10:12:22 AM   
saddorie


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Status: offline 		I would venture a guess that some of those that state "ask me" maybe here to push for some type of pay for cyber service. JMO.

edited for a typo.

< Message edited by saddorie -- 5/21/2004 11:36:43 AM >

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 10:19:07 AM   
saddorie


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Status: offline 		I love playing devil's advocate in vanilla life. It really gets some people worked up :)

However, doing that to someone just learning could be contrued the wrong way.

Besides, if you play devil's advocate with me, giving me 19 alternatives, I may ask 20 questions about each alternative.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 11:05:48 AM   
Sinergy


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Besides, if you play devil's advocate with me, giving me 19 alternatives, I may ask 20 questions about each alternative.


Of course, then I give you 19 alternatives about each 20 questions.

We are talking geometric progression; we would never have the opportunity to go scene or do anything in real life...

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 11:35:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

[We are talking geometric progression; we would never have the opportunity to go scene or do anything in real life...



Yes but at least we would be well informed :) Of course if you provided wrong answers to my questions then I would be ill informed, just causing me to ask more questions of you to straighten me out.

I think all this could be construed as mental torture, although for which one of us, I am not sure.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 11:52:04 AM   
Sinergy


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I think all this could be construed as mental torture, although for which one of us, I am not sure.


I wear the blue name tag, so you are the one being tortured.

It is not rocket science.

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 12:46:39 PM   
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Besides, if you play devil's advocate with me, giving me 19 alternatives, I may ask 20 questions about each alternative.


This reminds me of a kid who asks "why?" every time you tell them something, but isn't that how we learn?

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 1:53:03 PM   
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quote:

fully understand where Estrict is coming from regarding blank profiles.


::laughing:: hey keep me out of this :) Actually I also agree with *Estring* (the male dominant from CA) to a point. But I think blank is better than ask. Blank means not looking, ask is expecting someone to do your bidding.

EStrict (or Sandy), the female slave from Vegas who has never met Estring :)

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 4:52:36 PM   
saddorie


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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 5:31:25 PM   
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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/21/2004 9:25:56 PM   
rain


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Why ask why?

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/22/2004 7:50:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

I feel bad for people who ask me questions, saddorie.

I tend to devil's advocate almost anything. Then, having figured out as many contradictions to it as I can come up with, my next approach is to start figuring out how to use it to make fun of the whole idea.

So asking me questions means you will here 19 different alternatives going from the reasonable to the ridiculous.

I will eventually answer the question seriously, but I generally take the scenic route to get there.

Sinergy



YES!!!

I am NOT alone!! LOL!

WATERBROTHER!!!

hehehe

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RE: Ask? Why would I? - 5/22/2004 7:54:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ShadeDiva

I am NOT alone!! LOL!

WATERBROTHER!!!

hehehe

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