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would you support a revolution

yes, sign me up

9% (2)

yes, but i would not fight in it myself [apathy]

4% (1)

yes, but i would be a consciencoious objector to support [passive]

9% (2)

no, this country is great!

0% (0)

no, but we do need a rennovation

36% (8)

we are beyond revolution [suggest alternate]

0% (0)

yes, but the idea is too optimistic

13% (3)

no, the idea is treason

9% (2)

no, it would never get off the ground

9% (2)

yes, and it is inevitable

9% (2)

Total Votes : 22

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would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 10:39:07 AM

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would you support a revolution in this country, old school bring down the regime pick up your gun type of revolution - the kind that affects every one but us

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 11:36:04 AM

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No, not at all. Revolutions cause more mass chaos, slaughter of innocents, and outright anarchy more then anything else. A full scale uprising would leave this country ripe for the picking, not to mention the possibility of worldwide economic disaster.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 11:40:49 AM

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To me that is treason. The system is plenty good enough to evoke change, especially if you got the number of people motivated so much to have serious talk or effort.

I think people who blindly think America is simply the best country to live in to be living in complete isolation of the world but for people to think that this country is so screwed up or our quality of life is so bad that we need a drastic change need to study history and travel the world a little bit. We are for the most part extremely spoiled.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 1:12:11 PM

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It is not the system that is faulty... it is the people in charge of the system that are faulty....

The change comes in the polls... The problem is we have too many people that are apathetic that do not get up to vote. There are alternatives to a two party system. There are other parties, and there are more than enough people that are tired of the two party system that if they were to organize and vote for the Libertarian Party or the Green Party or another party in Mass that it could change this country in just TWO to SIX years...

In SIX years every single person in office right now could be replaced... and a Massive effort by those that are currently not voting, to stand up and make a change could change the entire country in six years.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 4:53:39 PM

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The change comes in the polls... The problem is we have too many people that are apathetic that do not get up to vote. There are alternatives to a two party system.

That's the thing about a revolution... with such a large percentage of the U.S. population so well placated by bread and circuses (Starbucks Lattes and reality TV, for those without a background in history) that trying to change "the system" isn't even worth dragging ass out to the polling place, a revolution would be short-lived.

i make a point of discussing the Libertarian Party whenever i find a potentially receptive audience engaged in political discussion, but i'm no man's cannon fodder.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 6:11:37 PM

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i would support a revolution yet would not personally fight in it. i would do my part giving speeches in support ...fundraising ...writing pamphlets ...marching in protests, etc - you name it - i would be willing to be arrested for my beliefs and tried/convicted as traitor for treasonous acts. as you see, i'm not afraid to speak my mind.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/13/2007 6:16:35 PM

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Only if it involved getting rid of the Tories..aka Republicans once and for all.

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would you support a revolution in this country, old school bring down the regime pick up your gun type of revolution - the kind that affects every one but us

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 8:17:46 AM

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quote:

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i make a point of discussing the Libertarian Party whenever i find a potentially receptive audience engaged in political discussion, but i'm no man's cannon fodder.

...dave

what? it exists? what? i live in MA? what??? what? we're not JUST bi partisan? you mean there are others out there that arent red or blue? WHAT??? coulda fooled me!

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 8:26:07 AM

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 8:54:29 AM

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We are the same country that feeds Britney Spears and Calvin Klein's bank account. Tommy Hilfiger and Bill Gates are proof positive that we simply don't want revolution; we want designer jeans and video games. We want bland movies, blander music, and the worst quality of food in the world.

We are a nation of mediocrity, but there are so many of us that are mediocre, that we simply have more money than anyone else; because our best and brightest really are the best and brightest.

Oh Irony...

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 9:44:23 AM

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I support a healthier course of leadership for the USA.

In terms of blood in the streets- consider this- we are ALL subject to the grid. If red lights and cell phones were down for 24 hours- all hell would break loose. the govt would protect us- just as it did visa-vi Katrina.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 10:10:52 AM

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Nope, I don't see.

That we have become reliant upon systems to survive does not necessarily mean that we would fail to survive without them. If we lived in a constant state of revolution, our future poets would instead carry guns. Our future wives would become spoils of war. Our future scientists would become laborors. This is appealing to many. I don't see them racing off to Antarctica, Iraq, or Nigeria to practice what they preach.

The expectation that we must destroy existing civilization, in order to move 'forward' is preposterous fantasy fiction at best. A society cannot thrive, when it's children are eating ashes.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 10:28:50 AM

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Nope, I don't see.

That we have become reliant upon systems to survive does not necessarily mean that we would fail to survive without them. If we lived in a constant state of revolution, our future poets would instead carry guns. Our future wives would become spoils of war. Our future scientists would become laborors. This is appealing to many. I don't see them racing off to Antarctica, Iraq, or Nigeria to practice what they preach.

The expectation that we must destroy existing civilization, in order to move 'forward' is preposterous fantasy fiction at best. A society cannot thrive, when it's children are eating ashes.

Stephan

imo the wealthy 1% have run-a-muck.

the masses are more concerned with trivial things right now....

mom always said- choose ur battles carefully

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 10:33:57 AM

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You suppose they are concerned with trivial things on accident? Indeed, isn't the conversation we're having through this website an example of what trivial things we discuss?

The wealthy 1% have always run amok; it isn't their fault they are wealthy, it is our fault for not being smart, cunning, and efficiant.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 12:35:29 PM

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Stephan- good point.

reminds me of the game guess which of the 3 cups the ball is under. of course the better is always wrong. the house wins.

ild say a good 60% folks are fickle/self absorbed/yadda yadda- to rise up- over anything other then beer and cigarettes.....

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/14/2007 1:08:29 PM

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Revolution is just a matter of time. For even the USA will eventually fall as have all previous societies. And when you consider how long those societies held together the USA is just an infant. Most societies have fallen due to internal forces more than due to the external forces placed upon them. Look at the Roman Empire, 1,000 years to its rise another 1,000 years to its final fall. If you count that up that is just 2,000 years, but when compared to just over 200 years of the USA being around we are just 10% along the way when compared to Ancient Rome.

Rome was not defeated by the barbarians coming across the boarders but instead by the internal decay from within that caused the people to loose faith in the government. The world nowdays still faces the same problems that ancient Rome faced. Pax Romana...Roman peace. Rome became stagnant because if stopped expanding. They had conquored all around them. They became the Big kid on the block that nobody wanted to mess with. And with that came peace. And with peace comes stagnation and decay.

Then came England, Pax Britannia, British peace. England was the new Big kid on the block and ruled most of the world at one time. It was said at one time that the sun never set on the British Empire. Look at England now, just a small island, without any real true power anymore holding onto past traditions of greatness.

Our American society has grown to become the big kid on the block. Pax Americana, American peace. But we also have forgotten all the sacrifices that were necessary to get to where we are. And because of that, we are no longer willing to do what is necessary and right for we have become lazy as a society. We have taken for granted the wealth and freedoms that we now enjoy.

Thus the USA will fall not because of external threats but because of internal decay just as ancient Rome and the British Empires fell. And they lasted thousands of years. Then throw in the Asian dynasties, the Egyptian dynasty, Persians, etc. They have all come and gone leaving us with what, just old ruins. What will the contribution of America be to the history of the world only time will tell, but I doubt seriously if we as Americans will last long enough to be more than a footnote within the history of the world.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/15/2007 9:59:52 AM

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exactly, people think that because this is the 21st century, something like that could never happen to us. This is precisely WHY they teach us history.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/16/2007 9:39:12 AM

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Just one thing i want to add in reply to RPutnam jr, England still has more influence in world matters than anyone today, we simply evolved, during our Empire it was about trade, trade wars with the Dutch, the Spanish and the French moreso than anyone else it was a race we led for many many centuries.

Just because countries such as Australia, India, Canada and various African countries are now self run dosent mean they dont operate on British principles, send their potential leaders to universities in England and seek British advice more than anyone else. We just live in an era where Empires dont work, we understand that and those other countries also cost Britain ALOT of money, the trouble with the USA on that front is they think they can be the next Empire, this is a futile practice, its better to have allies who are self sufficient these days than to govern, we still have an Empire its called the commonwealth, the next generation of Empire lol.

As for revolution i agree with a few points made here, we are all pacified into talking our objections out instead of taking to the streets and warring, dont get me wrong if a group of people decided enough was enough i think it would spark a much needed protest and revolution but i agree its no surprise we have so many distractions to occupy our minds whilst more sinister workings occur under our noses.

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RE: would you support a revolution - 3/16/2007 2:47:10 PM

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I think what this country needs is to get rid of the party system all together. Make candidates get elected based on actual merit and not who has the bigger party. As for the revolution....I may fight in it. Not because of any political ideal....just because I'm a typical bloodthirsty American barbarian in search of a fight. What? I know there's people here thinking it....