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DemonSadist -> How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 4:45:26 PM)
Whippings that break the skin? Needle torture, drinking urine/scat? I'm in the uk with a consensual slave and I'm concerned about the legal side fo things. Any help would be appreciated.

StacyCat -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 4:51:54 PM)
Dude, the law has nothing to do with it. Even a "consensual slave" can go cry abuse and throw you in jail. I suggest communicating with your slave about their desires and wants, and tell them about yours.

DominaSmartass -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 4:51:57 PM)
I don't know about the UK, but in the US none of this stuff, consensual or not, is "legal." You cannot (in legal terms) "consent" to being assualted. You can of course give your consent to play at S/M but if the law gets involved, they will not see it that way. As long as you are doing it in private and your slave truly is consenting and doesn't change her mind and press charges, you should be fine.

nissa -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 4:54:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DemonSadist Whippings that break the skin? Needle torture, drinking urine/scat? I'm in the uk with a consensual slave and I'm concerned about the legal side fo things. Any help would be appreciated. If you are thinking of things to do, and at the same time, pondering the legalities of such activities, I would think that you would recognize that you are already heading in a direction that could possibly harm her. Of course, you post was a bit vague, but that is the first thought that comes to my mind.

TxBlkMistress -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 4:56:18 PM)
You say you are already with her....didn't you discuss any of this in advance? before you collared her?

SirDominic -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:07:25 PM)
Legally, just about anything you do in S&M is against the law. From reading your profile, you want to go deeply into sadism. Better make sure you and the sub are on the same page and both understand the limits. If she decides you have abused her, she can go to the police, and you will have precious few defenses. Namaste, Sir Dominic

Mercnbeth -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:10:49 PM)
Most of the times death is the end of a relationship. Beside the problem of body disposal you have to go through the entire search process again. Death should be a hard limit.

hisannabelle -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:13:04 PM)
as others have said, the law really does not care whether or not she consents (at least in the us). beyond that, you can pretty much go as far as she consents to. ask her what her limits are.

BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:21:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Most of the times death is the end of a relationship. Beside the problem of body disposal you have to go through the entire search process again. Death should be a hard limit. Maybe they have a zombie slave fetish? [;)] [sm=lol.gif]

CreativeDominant -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:25:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Most of the times death is the end of a relationship. Beside the problem of body disposal you have to go through the entire search process again. Death should be a hard limit. Maybe they have a zombie slave fetish? [;)] [sm=lol.gif] Let me just say....for myself personally...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! [:'(] I mean, just think what could fall off or cave in at all the inappropriate times...

DemonSadist -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:28:20 PM)
Well amidstt the usual crap there's some good advice. Of course I've discussed things with her, my post made it pretty clear I was talking about things from a legal standpoint. Cheers.

MagiksSlave -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:30:33 PM)
people gave you the legal stand point which is it is not legal even with consent and if she is the spitfull type then if you piss her off and she goes to the cops your shit out of luck. Magik's slave

DemonSadist -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:32:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave people gave you the legal stand point which is it is not legal even with consent and if she is the spitfull type then if you piss her off and she goes to the cops your shit out of luck. Magik's slave Hence me saying "some good advice". She's not the spiteful type so I'm not going to worry about that part of it.

mstrjx -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Most of the times death is the end of a relationship. Beside the problem of body disposal you have to go through the entire search process again. Death should be a hard limit. Maybe they have a zombie slave fetish? [;)] [sm=lol.gif] Let me just say....for myself personally...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! [:'(] I mean, just think what could fall off or cave in at all the inappropriate times... I should think that if one is fairly adept with the flogger, this could be avoided if your aim is pretty decent and you don't get that awful wrap-around effect. If you're unsure, practice with your pillow before taking on the zombies. Jeff

hisannabelle -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:34:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DemonSadist Well amidstt the usual crap there's some good advice. Of course I've discussed things with her, my post made it pretty clear I was talking about things from a legal standpoint. Cheers. i think the point we're trying to make is that, like magiksslave said, from a legal standpoint, -everything- is illegal, pretty much...so if she does all of a sudden decide she's mad at you and goes and shows her bruises or cuts to the cops, you are in big, big trouble. pretty much everything that falls under bdsm also falls under assault in their book. so really it's a matter of what she is consenting to, but legally, it's important to keep in mind that the law doesn't care whether she said yes or begged for it. here are a couple of articles: http://gloria-brame.com/domidea/rumpoule.htm http://www.unfettered.co.uk/bdsmrights/

DemonSadist -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:36:23 PM)
Yeh, I understand that, that't the good advice I mention. It's helpful to know. We trust each other and I trust her not to squeal to the pigs if we break up or whatever. Thanks very much for the links.

MagiksSlave -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:36:37 PM)
LOL you know this makes me think who really is in charge the Dom or the sub food for thought!! Magik's slave

DemonSadist -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:37:51 PM)
Care to expand?

LadyPact -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:47:18 PM)
I'm not familiar with the UK, but I can tell you that, here in the US, just about any physical form of BDSM play can be considered an illegal act. There are a lot of domestic abuse laws here that don't even require either of the participating parties to press charges. For example, if the neighbors overhear a scene, call the police, and there is evidence that somebody's been struck..... I think you get the scenerio. Just some thoughts to ponder.

CreativeDominant -> RE: How far can you legally go with a consensual slave. (3/14/2007 5:59:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mstrjx quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Most of the times death is the end of a relationship. Beside the problem of body disposal you have to go through the entire search process again. Death should be a hard limit. Maybe they have a zombie slave fetish? [;)] [sm=lol.gif] Let me just say....for myself personally...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! [:'(] I mean, just think what could fall off or cave in at all the inappropriate times... I should think that if one is fairly adept with the flogger, this could be avoided if your aim is pretty decent and you don't get that awful wrap-around effect. If you're unsure, practice with your pillow before taking on the zombies. Jeff Would that be a pillow that's lost all its' support and softness...a "dead" pillow? Hmmmm?[8\|]

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