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BeingChewsie -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:23:13 AM)

I can't think of any undomly orders but I do know he would never order the below. I'm not sure what the lesson is supposed to be for submissives who would find the below overwhelming. I would be so afraid that my choice would be wrong, not pleasing, not perfect..ugh. That is why I searched for a dominant partner who was very unlikely to use me in this way.  I'm a do abc type not a plan abc type. It has nothing do with it being "hotter", it has to do with the types of things I'm capable of doing. My owner knows the worry over pleasing him would leave me unable to decide where to go or what to do. I would be lost in the maze of what would make him happier in any given moment. He loves mexican, he loves beef, he loves dinner on the ocean, sometimes he likes to go inland...or any numnber of possibilities.I would need to know exactly what he was in the mood for at that moment to make the decision so it would be right and perfect for him. No matter what he said, he would have something in mind, if I got it wrong, even he said my choice was fine. I would feel terrible the whole night if he had really had a hankering(but was too busy to mention it) for fish and I planned for mexican.

I guess the lesson would be to not meet or get involved with men who would use me like that but I have known that for years. I would think submissive people who don't want to be used that way( because it is anxiety and stress producing) would know it too. I don't think you could get to be adult and not have some idea of what works for you. So I would think submissive women already know that there are other forms of dominance besides micromanagement, they probably already know which types works best for them and seek to place themselves under that type.

Is your point know what type of dominance you need? I think that is a valid point and people would be much happeier if they did got to know themselves better ahead of time.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I am curious to hear what "undomly" orders other have given or have been given.  I want to make a point, or at least think I can, that not all orders come out of the "uberdominant" coloring book. 

If my life is busy, I don't want to take my time to plan a pleasant evening with you.  I give you a couple of times I am free and I want you to pick one and set it up.  Sure it is hotter if I plan the whole thing out, pick what you are to wear (oh hell I can still do that, wear the red blouse) or what we are going to do.   I will enjoy your company which is my goal and just don't have time to deal with the minutia, make yourself useful to ME, which is your role.

Submissives get it in their head that only micromanagement is "real" dominance.  I hope to god LA doesn't do her drive by linking and actually posts something about her "reactive" style as I think that is along the lines of what I am talking about.

So tops and bottoms, doms and subs, and god knows what others, post away about your undomly orders!




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:25:29 AM)

I had a submissive over last night. This was the first time she was in my house. she was fixing dinner and I got up and fixed myself something to drink and said, "Can I get you something?" and listed what I have. she turned and just kinda looked at me. I said, "Pay attention. I get you one drink." Now, I have the southern hostess thing out of my system and she knows where the glasses are. *chuckle*

I do stuff like that a lot, as in the whole southern hostess thing. I've just in the last six months or so gotten out of the habit of "picking up" before the houseboy comes to clean. Lots of conditioning to "pick up" before company comes to get over!

Master Fire




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:29:44 AM)

LOL MFM- this was very surprising to me as it happened at EVERY southern household I've been to.  They would specifically tell me "OK this first time I'm doing it for you, but after that you fend for yourself" and acted as if this was the height of polite hostessing!

Everywhere I've been in the North, the host was expected to provide and deal with those things directly every single time and it would take quite awhile for someone to become socially close enough to start rummaging in another kitchen and "help themselves."

Culture clash there.




dawntreader -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:34:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sadista

So somewhere in america there is a sub who is carrying My vagina with him.




LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This definitely should have come with a "don't drink while reading" warning!!!!




FukinTroll -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:41:38 AM)

Hmmm... I used to paint and install new interior in aircraft and one day covered in paint and yuk, I tell her to wiggle my winky out of my pants and hold it so I can take a leak. I know it sounds weird, but I had to pee bad and it is my favorite toy in the whole world and I wont touch it with dirty hands.




BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:45:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sadista
Then I blurted "Don't move. Pull it out. Pull it out. Pull it OUT!"  and he does in one quite move. So somewhere in america there is a sub who is carrying My vagina with him.



[sm=biggrin.gif] Thank you for a good morning belly laugh!




Mercnbeth -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:45:18 AM)

Oh hell Mike, I give "undomiant" orders and do "undominant" things daily, perhaps hourly. You want examples I have to all the way back to, oh let's see, last night. beth was in process of straighting up a minor mess left by my son's visiting friends, and I told her; "Stop it!". I was quick to add the domly, "sit your ass down next to me", but then regressed by saying; "please just relax with me". I think she also asked if I wanted a drink, and I said, "No thanks, I'll go get it myself." And then I actually did! You can make an argument that the very fact I routinely say; "thank you" when she does something, or brings me something, represents rampant "undomliness".

The "Most" undomly thing? Easy - "Will you marry me?"

Do I have to surrender my "Master-card" and turn in beth to the nearest "Dom-Depot" for redeployment?

btw - How are your plans going for next month in SF?




dawntreader -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:45:48 AM)

i think it is wise to take care of one's toys! LOL!




CreativeDominant -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:46:34 AM)

As I've often stated, I appreciate courtesy and civility in dealing with people, including submissives. That comes across in my orders, which like bita's and other submissives' dominants, are usually stated quietly and politely. That doesn't mean that they should not be followed, it just means that I see no need to come across like a leashed pit bull.

A few years ago, when I was living with a submissive, I came home from work tired and stressed. We ate dinner and then I retired to the couch to continue unwinding. She came in and sat down next to me and became very playful. I protested and she continued. Finally I just looked at her and said "Can we just sit tonight...pretty please?". The look on her face as she tried to muffle her laughter...unsuccessfully in the end...was priceless.




Mustardseed -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 7:52:49 AM)

"Shh."




agirl -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 8:01:14 AM)

 I don't think I've ever had an undomly order from M, not that I can recall, in any case. 

I offered him breakfast in bed on Sunday morning, he suggested going out himself, choosing , buying and cooking it for myself and the sproggies.

Tomorrow, I'll be choosing, buying and providing lunch.

Your example doesn't seem to be the least bit undomly, to me.

agirl






MasterFireMaam -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 8:06:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

LOL MFM- this was very surprising to me as it happened at EVERY southern household I've been to.  They would specifically tell me "OK this first time I'm doing it for you, but after that you fend for yourself" and acted as if this was the height of polite hostessing!

Everywhere I've been in the North, the host was expected to provide and deal with those things directly every single time and it would take quite awhile for someone to become socially close enough to start rummaging in another kitchen and "help themselves."

Culture clash there.


Well, I must be more northern that I thought, because usually, I AM serving the drinks until I know them. This is why it was an important thing for both me AND her that I got ONE drink!

Master Fire




SirDominic -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 8:08:30 AM)

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Submissives get it in their head that only micromanagement is "real" dominance.


Where-ever did you get this idea from????? Only the really out there control freaks need to micromanage everything. Most Doms and Masters I know are very happy to give a basic framework and let the sub/slave take it from there.

Being Dominant is a state of mind, the way you are wired. If you are comfortable in your dominance, you don't have to prove anything. I make what you would probably consider undominant statements all the time. My slave will be the first to tell you there is no iota of doubt in her mind that I am her Master.

Namaste, Sir Dominic




ONEDEMANDINGMSTR -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 8:44:05 AM)

I second Sir Dominic......  I respect all women, treat them as equals(which they are)...........and raised to be polite. While I'm a Dom, and in certain situations it's obvious, I am first and foremost a gentleman. My 'demands' are most always couched in terms of a request. It matters not whether we're in public, or not, that's just who I am. Hey, I'll even say "Good blow-job, My slut, thanks"............now is that polite , or what?????  smile




AquaticSub -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 8:57:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I'll start by saying that 'most' of the orders in this house don't come from an uber dominant coloring book. Most are very benign couched as a polite request.


Got to second that. However, as to the subject of the OP:

Whenever he tells me to make him a sandwich in his Gir voice (from Invader Zim), it's pretty funny. I make the sandwich, but I'm giggling all the way to the fridge. [:)]




AquaticSub -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 9:02:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

LOL MFM- this was very surprising to me as it happened at EVERY southern household I've been to.  They would specifically tell me "OK this first time I'm doing it for you, but after that you fend for yourself" and acted as if this was the height of polite hostessing!



Funny. I've never encountered this in a southern household. My mother taught me to always be the one fetching the drinks and the food. Hell, I both love and hate hosting because I'm sure I won't have enough selection and someone will go home dissapointed. Even if I spent a hundred on different types of food and beverage, I'm sure it's not enough.




thetammyjo -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 9:07:58 AM)

The most undomly sounded would probably me: "I need to figure out what to wear. Which of these do you like best on me?"

However it is actually one of the most helpful things my slave can do for me. Maybe its because he's bi but he is good at seeing different colors and styles and giving detailed opinions and reasons. Plus, as many women do, I have great confusion over what I "should" look like and what I "do" look like. When he can give me reasons I can toss aside the common mental thing I might do when someone who loves me says I look good: that's dismiss the comment as blinded by love or lust.

It's good to have a seperate pair of eyes when I really am not sure what to wear. Doesn't happen often but it can happen.




gypsygrl -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 9:28:21 AM)

He said: Are you done with the cheese?
I heard: Cheese-time is over. Put the cheese away
I thought: I'm still hungry.  I want more cheese. 
I said: No, I'm not done with the cheese but I will put it away as soon as I am done if that's where you're going.

I ate a lot more cheese, wondered if he thought I was a pig or if he was concerned that I was eating all his cheese, told him I really liked cheese, got up, put the cheese away, cleaned up the dishes and then went and sat back down and came to the conclusion that I was neurotic.






SimplyMichael -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 9:48:50 AM)

 
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I ate a lot more cheese, wondered if he thought I was a pig or if he was concerned that I was eating all his cheese, told him I really liked cheese, got up, put the cheese away, cleaned up the dishes and then went and sat back down and came to the conclusion that I was neurotic.


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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

I would be so afraid that my choice would be wrong, not pleasing, not perfect..ugh. That is why I searched for a dominant partner who was very unlikely to use me in this way.  I'm a do abc type not a plan abc type. It has nothing do with it being "hotter", it has to do with the types of things I'm capable of doing. My owner knows the worry over pleasing him would leave me unable to decide where to go or what to do. I would be lost in the maze of what would make him happier in any given moment. ... I would feel terrible the whole night ...

I would think submissive people who don't want to be used that way( because it is anxiety and stress producing) would know it too.

Is your point know what type of dominance you need? I think that is a valid point and people would be much happeier if they did got to know themselves better ahead of time.
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Lots of interesting stuff but the above is why I write this both for those who struggle with it and those who have found a nice that works for them.

As sometimes happens someone posts something that challenges me and forces me to think and even perhaps rethink my position.  Chewsies may be one of those and for that I thank her.

SO, this is the issue I was trying to get at, that there are submissives who misread anything but a knucle dragging order as "whimpy" or "undomly"  and a related one about those who berate themsevles internally over the question of whether they did it "well enough".

Perhaps the "well enough" part is fodder for another thread but I wanted to highlight these two to show why I started this thread.  The two are intertwined because if I order someone to pick a movie, some would simply pick a movie but others would be offput thinking I am not being domly because I didn't also state which movie and or paralyized wondering which movie would be "perfect".

First off, I ORDERED them to pick a movie, I am pretty sure if I only wanted to see one, I could order that too.  Secondly, I just want to sit in a dark theatere and watch a movie and hopefully I know enough about my girl to know our tastes align I will enjoy anything she would.




CrazyC -> RE: Most undominant order you give or got? (3/15/2007 9:52:43 AM)

OH goodness these are great. :D

I guess i never really thought of any order undomly.




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