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Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 2:51:06 AM   
KarbonCopy


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My Mistress has recently informed me that she'd like to take me shopping in another town to buy womens clothing for me, so to have me trying on womens clothing while we're at the store.

I know this sounds stupid, but I know nothing about it. Is this legal?
I wouldn't have so much of a nervousness, if we were buying the clothing and then I went home and put them on, I like to please Mistress and indulge any fantasy or desire that she has.

Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm very easily embarrased, and one of my things is humiliation, but thats pretty intense. Its hot to me thinking about how humiliating it would be, but when I start thinking about the fact that she really will do this, just one day tell me to get dressed, hop in the car and drive to another city and start making me cross dress right in the middle of a store.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 3:10:39 AM   
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Is this legal?


Sure! Women can wear guy's clothing so why not the other way around?

The only legal barrier would be use of the restroom. But you weren't thinking of using the ladies' room were you?

You might run into some trouble with dressing rooms. Often they are divided into male and female rooms and you might get dirty looks or even stopped if you try to use the women's dressing room. Of course, if your Mistress accompanies you this might not be a problem.

Be glad this is just clothes and not cosmetics!

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 3:12:01 AM   
KarbonCopy


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Oh god cosmetics....*Mistress is an ex makeup artist*

You know a little part of me was hoping it was illegal >.<


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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 10:14:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KarbonCopy

My Mistress has recently informed me that she'd like to take me shopping in another town to buy womens clothing for me, so to have me trying on womens clothing while we're at the store.

I know this sounds stupid, but I know nothing about it. Is this legal?
I wouldn't have so much of a nervousness, if we were buying the clothing and then I went home and put them on, I like to please Mistress and indulge any fantasy or desire that she has.

Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm very easily embarrased, and one of my things is humiliation, but thats pretty intense. Its hot to me thinking about how humiliating it would be, but when I start thinking about the fact that she really will do this, just one day tell me to get dressed, hop in the car and drive to another city and start making me cross dress right in the middle of a store.


You risk offending the salesgirls at the store, not to mention the other women who are shopping. Some of them might have kids with them. I would question your Mistress' respect for others if she intends to make you try on clothes in a womens' clothing store.

If she makes arrangements with the staff ahead of time, that's a different story.

The other option is to make sure you are doing it in a store that it's appropriate for.

Or, wait for Halloween. At least you have an excuse.

There are a lot of humiliating shopping tasks that you can do that do not involve other people who do not want to be involved.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 11:45:46 AM   
KarbonCopy


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Ahh good point. I never thought of it that way Akasha. Thank you

I will definantly bring this up wiht my Mistress.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 12:19:43 PM   
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Most stores unless they are kink friendly will not let a man into a woman's dressing room nor let a man and a woman go in together.


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RE: Public Feminization - 4/4/2005 12:37:24 PM   
KarbonCopy


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heh.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/5/2005 9:33:17 AM   
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i doubt it is illegal in any state for a man to just try on female clothing, karboncopy...but as others have pointed out here, it may not be appropriate in a lot of stores, depending on the vibe and the clientele!

i have shopped in person for female clothing for myself both with a Mistress accompanying me and by myself, and have never had any problems (i'm not counting quiet and sometimes intense internal embarrassment as a problem...), but i have always targeted more adult-leaning stores. there are some places that cater especially to crossdressers, which should be quite "safe" for you, and some that are more inclusive in terms of gender and orientation but still aim at fetish and sex appeal overall (for instance, i buy a lot of my shoes at a shop that caters largely to exotic dancers) -- these should all work for you, and perhaps it is stores of these types that your Mistress intends to take you to. i have also been brought to victoria's secret by a Mistress i know, and We/we had no trouble at all entering a dressing room together, where i was made to try on several bras and garter belts...standard department stores may not be quite as lenient, though, especially, as someone else pointed out, if there are a lot of children about.

it really does depend on the store you choose, and on your own behavior while there...but i *really* doubt that just respectfully attempting to try the clothing on would be considered illegal.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/5/2005 1:34:28 PM   
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as others have pointed out here, it may not be appropriate in a lot of stores, depending on the vibe and the clientele!


Indeed.

This goes back a few years, but the TJ Maxx store chain in the San Franscisco Bay area used to frown on cross-dressing. But in Los Angleles TJ Maxx was more accepting.

BTW, this thread really does belong in the "As a Submissive/Slave" forum.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/6/2005 10:13:11 AM   
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You know a little part of me was hoping it was illegal >.<

You don't sound so certain that you really want to do this / have this done to you, KarbonCopy. Is this something that you suggested to Mistress and now She is acting on it ? Or is this Her desire and as Her sub you feel you have to go along with it ? The former would be SSC, the latter NOT SSC.

Going out in public crossdressed is a big step even for a lifelong closet TV. But at least such a TV has spent many hours thinking about what he wants to do or happen when he finally does do it, and during all his dressing behind closed doors, he has also learnt much of the deportment (walking in heels, etc.) and possibly disposition (learning to tone down his more obvious masculine traits while emphasizing the feminine) necessary to "perform" acceptably in public.

If you have never crossdressed before what you are suggesting here is a recipe for disaster. How well people accept and react to a crossdressed male in public depends on the attitude of that male. If he is confident and relaxed in the role people will warm to him just as to any other person with self-confidence. If the CD looks ashamed or uncomfortable in the role, this is what makes others feel uncomfortable with the situation, and may possibly cause them to freak rather than accept, or at least, ignore you. The issue of children and minors that might be present in a department store aside (which is a complete no-no), even in front of other innocent adult witnesses, if YOU appear uncomfortable, THEY will be uncomfortable!

Just as you wouldn't put on a play in public with rehearsals and a final dress rehearsal, you shouldn't crossdress in public until you have done it a sufficient number of times behind closed doors such that you are aware of what you are in for when you hit the store that you ultimately choose as the venue for this scene. Similarly, you shouldn't indulge in the humiliation aspect of crossdressing until you have done that behind closed doors, too, and consequently understand your own limits - but more importantly, that Your Mistress fully understands your limits and knows exactly the full gamut of what She can do to you and how far She can push you.

You should only do in public something that you have practiced, or at least mapped out, in private beforehand. The department store floor is NOT the place to discover that walking in heels is a lot different than you imagined ... your embarrassment will be EVERYONE ELSE'S embarrassment. And those are the situations in which others may freak and reveal their own disgust at what you are doing, or the police being called. Crossdressing in public is NOT illegal, but causing a public commotion or corrupting minors IS prosecutable.

If you are NOT fully into crossdressing what you are suggesting here is NOT for you. It takes a male that is very secure in his masculinity to wear a dress in public. If you have any doubts, don't do this ... think of an alternative activity, such as crossdressing in a fetish or BDSM dungeon environment. This way you get your public humiliation, but if you freak or make a complete ass of yourself at least your public consists of kinksters that can understand what is going on. If you cause someone to freak in Macy's you may well end up down at the police station if only because the police have to remove you to calm them down.

BTW, it is ultimately LESS humiliating to be fully en femme and in full makeup than to be partially crossdressed and/or without makeup. If you really want to do this you need to work up to it gradually by making some forays fully crossdressed to TG friendly locations (such as gay bars and restaurants and/or fetish clubs). You must master the gay / TG / kinkster public audience before you move on to the general public, which is prime time. If you make special arrangements with the store to do what you suggest out of hours when nobody is there except a CD-friendly sales clerk, where is the humiliation in that ? You have just sanitized what you want to get from this scene. If this is about buying a feminine wardrobe for you, you can do that mail order or over the web with the help of your Mistress WRT measurements and choice of clothes, etc. without even leaving home. Learn to separate fantasy from reality.

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RE: Public Feminization - 4/10/2005 3:10:31 PM   
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From my own personal experience the small Latin woman's clothing stores are the most friendly and helpful when it comes to buying women's clothing. For the past two years I have been buying my clothing at a store where both the owner and her teenage daughter helped me with my shopping. While I was trying on some of the items that I had picked out, both mother and daughter were looking for other items that I might want to try on. I never experienced any problems from with walking around the store in either skirts or dresses. Last week I found another Latin woman's clothing store closer to my house and the young the salesclerk there was also very responsive to my needs.

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