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TexasMaam -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/17/2007 7:48:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel
Ah Richard... you are such a cutie... long winded, but still a cutie.
 Jewel
Nodding in agreement. [:D]

Anyway, we welcome you and your long winded cuteness to the boards.   M


LOLOLOLOL!  [:D][:D][:D]
See there? Those 'serious Dommes' I mentioned are already overlooking your misdirected exuberance!

TM




mam -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/17/2007 8:12:13 AM)

I am almost speachless. Almost.

Thank you for your educational posting and for letting us know your feelings on this matter.
But I don't think I am going to run and change my profile just yet.

Mam




MiladyElaine -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/17/2007 8:39:48 AM)

I give specifics because I am only interested in those specifics.
If I have "painted Myself into a box", it is MY box.
I stopped reading all that was written about a third of the way down!
I detest long posting.




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/19/2007 1:49:43 AM)

Thank-You, l/Ladies - and gentleman - for replying to (and yes, reading) my post.
 
i am so impressed with the People here on CollarMe, i'm beside myself.  i have never witnessed so much awareness or actualization before, or quality of conscious articulation. Perhaps there are other sites and venues similar, but this is new to me. i learned a lot in the two weeks before joining CollarMe, and i've learned a lot in the two weeks i've been here. It seems that i can count on learning things here at CollarMe ... and that i can count on any mistakes i make being outright flushed.
That's a bit of a new one for me.
No, i'm not used to that at all.
So, just ....Thank You; i'm honored.
 
i would like to reply to Each ... in kind.
 
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill
I think if you over specify you'll miss out on a lot of things because you've painted yourself in a box.
I think people sending what they wish you to see vs what they think you want to see shows you who they really are and what motivates them. [...]
I'd rather find someone who has a similar perspective without me showing mine first and being copied.

Hates:
Chastity (expert)
i'm so sorry to find you in such situation that you don't feel it's worth trying anymore. That seems such a shame and such a loss. It make me feel ashamed as a man. There's subs and Dommes and slaves and Doms, and switches, too.
"diamond in the ruff"? You Shine Beautifully - as a Human Being.
All my Love and Hope,
- richard  (cutter of DiamondCutter, who only pastes plactic mirrored facets on)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43
It shouldn't be necessary...
But it is.
[...]
because they haven't been educated.

ok. no contest. You're very generous and forgiving. More than i, evidently.

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel
Ah Richard... you are such a cutie... long winded, but still a cutie.
All of what you said would make sense if ...
My personal faves were the ones that said "We have a lot in common!" Oh really? I wonder if they too were married, bi and poly?
...Not to worry richard...

Thank-You, Jewel; as always.
i'll try not to worry too much. i worry too much.
i'll try and keep my writing short-winded. It's actually medium-winded, now, after about six years of taming it.  It USED to be long-winded  [sm=goodnight.gif]

Jewel pins me like a butterfly in a display case, and sticks me on Her lapel occassionally when She goes out dancing...

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo
[...]
I rewrote my profile into a series of questions...

"Do you still think you want to contact me?"
no, i'm not very certain at all that i want to contact You.
Thank-You for being so very clear.
 
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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes
What really gets me is that there are submissive males out there who say that they want to be told how to contact a Domme because otherwise they are clueless....

hi SweetDommes,
actually, i can sympathize with these subs. If anything, they may just be braving being very honest. i know how painful it is to feel clueless in the presence of a Domme who doesn't appreciate cluelessness.
When in doubt, i just really, really prefer to ask. Really, i do.
After reading all the responses here, i concede that You can just do what You want and i'll just let You do that, ok?
i'll just ask for some mercy and understanding that Dommes can be very terrifying to a sub at times, and i wouldn't want to be devastated because i asked what to do because i was clueless. The state of 'clueless' is really horrible in itself, and it can take a huge amount of courage just to speak and ask because, please, no, don't do that...

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
I guarantee you, that in spite of My precise instructions, most of the email I receive doesn't even begin to approach the information I request.

understood.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
This saves Me time

understood.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
It isn't even a matter of being offended, as much as it is a matter of being efficient.

understood. 

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
never send a photo ... excuses not acceptable. I have one ... so I think I can ask for one in a private email in return.

understandable.  

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
 Why take, again, 2 or 3 or 4 emails toget all this?  It can always be expanded upon in future correspndence, but I want to begin with something solid.  I see nothing wrong with that. 

i can see nothing wrong with that.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
<snipped throughout in the interest of space and time)

[8|]

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
This premature education has become a necessity.  It is a good way to weed through the hundreds of emails most of us receive.  Otherwise, I would feel (this isMe, not everyone!) an obligation to educate on an individual basis, and, frankly, I don'thave the time.

Hundreds. ok.
No, i don't think You should have to take more time than You have to perform such obligation which You are caring enough to feel, either. But obviously, it is most considerate of You to actually even consider educating people on an individual basis.
i certainly wouldn't want to take Your time You don't have because You would have to educate me on an individual basis....
 
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
Trust Me when I say [...]
I can cut through that pretty quickly,and I am sure My Dominant Sisters have the same ability. That would be an extremely rare instance, and I have not seen complaints about this on the boards.   So your argument holds no water for Me.

i trust You and Your Dominant Sisters.
did i make an argument?
i really don't want to be making arguments; i don't like them.
i usually find it's an argument if i feel it's an argument.
do You feel an argument?

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
 

I am sorry that you seem so frustrated and feeling [...]
But, again, I ask you to trust me when I say [...]

Thank-You; i feel much better, now.
ok, i'll just trust You.
 
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
And if they are...isn't it nice that some or many of Us are trying to help them along with this premature education? My profile is quite specific and most will not be bothered because it is too much work. So I can save time, I can save them time, and I can open the door for someone like you. 
Sounds like a good and fair deal to Me.

Yes, i agree that it is very nice of You to help.
That is an excellent and fair deal You have made for e/Everyone.

Thank-You, GoddessDustyGold for all Your time and consideration which You placed into Your reply.
i am feeling very selfish, that You needed to do all this. i'm very happy that i have a clearer understanding of much more than i wrote about.

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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou
Ditto. [:)]

Thank-You.

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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou
I think seeing in the first email whether a prospective submissive reads and can actually follow directions is a good thing.


ok. no contest.

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
Nodding in agreement. [:D]

Thank-You.
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
To the OP...  but the basics of propriety are only basic to people who know them, and I am convinced of this every time I go out with yet another person who missed the little lessons from mom/dad/grandma.

i understand. i can't guarantee that i have learned all such little lessons, actually. It's obviously a good thing that You're here to take up the slack.

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
In our dominant women defense,

uuuuuuuu.....

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
Besides that, I wouldn't reject a kind/generous/gentle soul simply because he missed some civics lesson, as long as he is open to learning without tude.
Anyway, we welcome you and your long winded cuteness to the boards.   M

that makes complete sense, and i can only agree with agreeing with You.
Thank-You for Your gracious welcome. I am very happy to be here.

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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
LOL.. richard.. u are a treat!
[:D]

i am?

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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
It seems common courtesy is NOT common... and manners... like service that I desire.. sometimes must be taught (boo! on those parental figures that left that to the wayside..

much boo. Those parental figures have not been doing all the best job they could.

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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
I wont even begin to talk about internet introduction as a whole, My feeling is that the internet somehow allows those that use it to forget propriety.

NOBODY in their right mind would want You to begin to talk about that. You might get angry or upset or who knows.

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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
and
I have been in the lifestyle long enough to appreciate the old way of meeting prospective subs.. either by good fortune (and manipulation..lol) or proper introduction from other Dominants.
 
Thank-You, Miss Tanya

Well, i have been replying for hours and i think i might be exhausted, it being nearly 5am.
i think i will get some sleep now...




bignipples2share -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 1:13:45 PM)

Do you share the same cranium with Benji?

~Big




MIstrezzTanya -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 1:30:27 PM)

lol.. I can't quibble over the little bits...
the rant to Me is the equivalent of a tantrum
 
and I find temper tantrums quite sexy....  (or wait..no...)
 
the spanking that FOLLOWS the tantrum.. THAT is what I like......
 
seems richard likes that as well..... he had a tantrum, and he's being spanked! (u naughty boy!!!!)
 
LOL
 
 
 
 
 
 




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 1:38:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rskenderian

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
Trust Me when I say [...]
I can cut through that pretty quickly,and I am sure My Dominant Sisters have the same ability. That would be an extremely rare instance, and I have not seen complaints about this on the boards.   So your argument holds no water for Me.

i trust You and Your Dominant Sisters.
did i make an argument?
i really don't want to be making arguments; i don't like them.
i usually find it's an argument if i feel it's an argument.
do You feel an argument?



*Smile*  "Argurment" in the sense of a debate.  You have your side and I have mine. You did not make a good case for Me to consider changing My mind,  therefore your argument for your cause did not sway Me. 




Laura -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 4:23:39 PM)

The part about not asking questions (or waiting for permission) bothered me.

I met a sub male, went so far as to go for coffee with him, who had the idea of only giving exactly as much as he got from me. This did not work out. Why? Because I felt I was alone. I didn't feel he was really interested. Also, I felt very much ripped off. There are times when a man needs to ask questions, without being led or given permission.

Maybe it's because I'm not looking for some kind of  professional relationship but a real personal relationship with the male sub I want to spend time with. But, I want someone who isn't standing back waiting for me to put in the energy to make things work. Yes, I am the Dom in the scheme of things but I want to know I'm with another person.

It really was such a weird thing, how that guy felt it should all work. Very lonely. I don't want to be the one who has to start and carry on every conversation. I don't think I'm really doing a good job of describing the whole thing. It was the first time I've encountered something like that.




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 8:21:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
LOLOLOLOL!  [:D][:D][:D]
See there? Those 'serious Dommes' I mentioned are already overlooking your misdirected exuberance!
TM

Evidently. i get called "cute".  Fortunately, i'm "cute".




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 8:27:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MIstrezzTanya
lol.. I can't quibble over the little bits...
the rant to Me is the equivalent of a tantrum
and I find temper tantrums quite sexy....  (or wait..no...)
the spanking that FOLLOWS the tantrum.. THAT is what I like......
seems richard likes that as well..... he had a tantrum, and he's being spanked! (u naughty boy!!!!) 
LOL

You spank well.
*ouch*
it feels good to feel known
*ouch*
i had a tantrum.




MissSCD -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 8:28:47 PM)

This practice is noting more than basic protocall.  There are certain ways we do things, and this is why you are being asked to do these things.

Regards,

MissSCD




MzMia -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 8:41:24 PM)

You actually read posts that long? I would need 2 cups of coffee and a tab of
fuckitall to read these mile long rants.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 8:45:21 PM)

I have in my profile that i am looking for nothing but conversation. However, I get offers to serve constantly.  So,why exactly should I believe putting into my profile how to contact me would help, if they cant read whats already there?

DV




MstrssScarlet -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 9:46:10 PM)

rskenderian,
Welcome to collarme!  Not all the dommes on here are quite so critical (or defensive?), but reading something that long does tend to make us all a bit cranky.  I took a look at your profile out of curiosity and DAMN [:(] my eyes are REALLY hurting now!  It seems to me that the only thing you really need to learn (and quick!) is to get to the point faster!   Hope you enjoy your stay. [;)]  Nice picture!
Mistress Scarlet 

edited because I can't get all the little smileys to work right this evening- damn it!




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 10:11:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam
Were I to receive an email from you, having read this well intentioned post of yours flaming Dommes for their preferences on their profiles, I'd block you.
Since you did indicate on your post that you've only been here 2 weeks, perhaps serious Dommes will overlook the fact that you'll have a lot to learn here about posting positive messages.

Thank-You, TexasMaam
i have a lot to learn about being more positive. i thought i learned a lot about being more positive. Then i came here.

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ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne
So the trick is to only look for friends here and not openly seek men at all, much less tell them what to write or what photos to send.  The good ones (like richard) will find you in their own way :)

Thank-You
i get so many goodies from my tantrum, i don't know what to say.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
OK, I'll jump on the bandwagon too, I liked his post as well.

Thank, cloudboy. i like you.
Ladies, is he not cute?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
In my mind, laconic profiles like shiftejewel's are just as good as the ornate ones like GDG's. Who really cares about profiles anyway??? What's more important is how we conduct ourselves --- which arguably was the OP's very thesis point.

you're not supposed to have a mind, at least not yet; you can get criticized for that.
Besides, you're accumulating a spanking with such contextual, opinionated statements ;)




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 10:33:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bignipples2share
Do you share the same cranium with Benji?
~Big
< Message edited by bignipples2share -- 3/20/2007 1:18:18 PM >


- severely edited so as not to be negative.
- edited again
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rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/20/2007 10:42:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet
Welcome to collarme! [...] but reading something that long does tend to make us all a bit cranky.  I took a look at your profile out of curiosity and DAMN [:(] my eyes are REALLY hurting now!  It seems to me that the only thing you really need to learn (and quick!) is to get to the point faster!   Hope you enjoy your stay. [;)]  Nice picture!
Mistress Scarlet 

Thank-You, Mistress Scarlet.
i am aware that i write profusely. i wrote poetry profusely for many years, from waking to falling asleep, and it comes effortless, now.
i've been working on cutting down my writing for about six years.
i've cut it down, at most, by about half.
i'm still trying to work on that, and i need to hear when i'm being too verbose.
i'll have to say that You actually made me feel encouraged about my taming my writing.
Thank-You.
i'm sorry for hurting Your eyes.
can i lick them and make them feel better?

- richard "puppy"




bignipples2share -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/21/2007 8:40:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rskenderian

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ORIGINAL: bignipples2share
Do you share the same cranium with Benji?
~Big
< Message edited by bignipples2share -- 3/20/2007 1:18:18 PM >


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Hmmm.  Was I too quick to pass out a compliment of such magnitude? Then I'll just agree that you're cute and leave bigger compliments by the wayside.

My apologies to Benji.

~Big




rskenderian -> RE: Why tells subs what to/not to write and what pics to/not to send? (3/21/2007 1:35:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bignipples2share
Hmmm.  Was I too quick to pass out a compliment of such magnitude? Then I'll just agree that you're cute and leave bigger compliments by the wayside.
My apologies to Benji.
~Big


Oh, Miss Bigness.

Your compliment i misconstrued,
i've felt some fur-plucks and flinched a few,
such i run the buck, and do duck a bit,
and i suppose You'll have to aim for me
Your compliments a little lower than normally;
since i'm just yet a puppy,
and don't stand,
but to a good Domme's knees,
and Her compliment could easily well
pass right over my head.

-richard "puppy"




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