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FelinePersuasion -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 11:00:08 AM)

I have met poofer's in real life too it's not mutually exclusive to online.
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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

This happens all the time online, one of the hazards of trying to meet people this way. People lack follow up and behave rudely because it is easy to hide online.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 12:12:44 PM)

Yes, I've been dropped. I'm at a point in my life where I realize that they dropped me not because of me, but because of "their stuff". It doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt, but, I find it helpful in realizing these things. One of the Four Agreements is "Don't take is personally." Very simple...and often hard. But, it can be done.

I have dropped people. In fact, I dropped a close friend when they hurt me beyond a level that I could recover. I usually try to give some sort of explanation, but often, what I think is very clear is often cloudy for them. It depends on the circumstances involved if I explain further. For this friend, I knew I could never explain it enough, so I didn't try.

Master Fire




curiouslyseeking -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 12:57:06 PM)

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I feel like I was safely crossing a street and a friggen Mac Truck hit me head on.  Not a very pleasent emotional experience.


May I ask when did you realize you were emotionally attached?  Before or after the disappearance?

Respectfully,
curious




firemuse -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 12:59:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressScarlot

If she is so bad at making choices that she keeps making the same mistakes over and over again (lied to, stalked, harrassed, etc.) then there are likely deep internal issues at hand that you'd just as likely be better off without trying to fix and heal in here.


Actually, those were my words...what I said was I've experienced ALL of these things, simply from terminating correspondence.  No 'bad choices', I think more a reflection of how many weenies are out there.  To be fair, I should correct that statement - the stalking situation was someone I briefly dated (and stopped when I saw some concerning warning signs - which ended up being indicators of issues within him).

fire

Alienum est omne quicquid optando evenit




WhiplashSmile -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 1:31:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: curiouslyseeking

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I feel like I was safely crossing a street and a friggen Mac Truck hit me head on.  Not a very pleasent emotional experience.


May I ask when did you realize you were emotionally attached?  Before or after the disappearance?

Respectfully,
curious


It was before her disappearance when I realized this.  Ironically, this morning the message I tried to send her was rather detailed in this regard as well.




Vendaval -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 5:23:44 PM)

I always caution people to not put any real emotion into
a relationship until it develops in real life, not just in
e-mails, chat and phone calls.  Even then, you run the
risk of being rejected without any explanation.
 
Be careful with your heart and look out for your own best
interests, is the best of advice I can give you.
 
Take care,
 
Vendaval




Sinergy -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 5:30:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

WhiplashSmile,

Yes I have blocked someone before, leaving them clueless.  My usual assumption in such a case is that the person I was communicating with had gotten to know Me well enough and were confident enough that they wrote, called or visited Me while either being: intoxicated, on crack, or in bi polar phase.

When a SERIOUS alarm bell rings, I don't owe any explanations to anyone other than Myself.

If the sub in question has simply revealed something in a polite way that is a dealbreaker for Me, I always take the time to let them know what and why I am ceasing communication.

When it's a HUGE red flag, I don't owe them a thing.

TexasMaam


I was doing a workshop at a local college, and a student came up and asked about a man stalking her.  Said she had broken it off after he got drunk one night and hit her, and now she says he follows her, etc.

My boss looked at her a long time and said "I am not going to kid around.  He will kill you.  The thing about people who stalk is that they are playing a sick cycle in their head, and every interaction with them starts the whole cycle all over again.  This can include getting a restraining order.  Having the police go over and talk to them.  Etc."

Told her to make sure she kept herself safe, without responding to any contact the person made, until the cycle ended and they found somebody else to stalk.

I can understand those who want some closure, but I would suggest they find the closure within themselves if the other person is not able or willing to give it to them.

Sinergy




WhiplashSmile -> RE: When things go bad without explaination (3/17/2007 5:32:17 PM)

There is a bit of poetic justice.  FukTroll has started a thread a couple weeks ago about self sabotaging ones chances.  A sort of Rubicon, that once you cross a river there is no turning back.

While I did not block somebody, I did pull of sort of pull hand grenade pin thing with somebody I spent weeks getting to know.  It was a sort of mutal friendship, that turned into a wow. (another thread)  We both started to have a certain growing fondness for each other.  Anyways, long story Short.  I pulled the Hand Grenade Pin on the ONE I've fondly call "Mystery Girl". (not the same one that blocked me)  It was a big, all or nothing type of move, actually knowing deep down inside what the probable out come would be. 

Actually, I did this for both her and my own sake.  To sever the ties and make it easier for her.. She was at odds over things between her and I  because she had met somebody wonderful in real time.  Right or Wrong, I went and did it.  Now, I hope and pray she has peace of mind.  It was rather distressing to have her torn up about this matter.  I pulled the pin, or flushed the toilet per say.  

I instantly built a brick wall between her and I as difficult as it was for me.  So I sit here questioning myself now, while I can honestly say, I have never blocked anybody without explaination.  It's a very similar tactic though, to build up a quick wall.  Damn you FukinTroll for that wonderful thread on sabotaging ones own chances. 

There was another thread back nearly a month ago, on when a sub goes "poof".  I wrote a comment, about if somebody goes poof on me, that I don't like to take them back, if there was somebody else in the picture.  Basically playing the game of second best.  I'm certain that the one that went poof on me read all these things.  She had commented that she had been reading things I wrote.

I know I've made several posts where I mention about the emotional connection elements of a D/s relationship.  That I'm not into sub/slave types that have emotional affection as a hard limit.  The more I think about this, it makes sense that this one, choose to place up a quick wall, if there was somebody else involved.  

The thing for me is getting used to all this on the online environment.  Because in a sense, all this is not real, but still is.  Meaning that online relationships are not the same are real time ones.  Think DomiGuy and a few others hit the nail on the head with the Hammer, in terms of meeting somebody for real.   Then MistressScarlets absolute truth of  "Understand that on some level that it wasn't right, and likely wouldn't have worked out."  along with the infinite wisdom of "We are partially a product of the things that happen to us, but /mostly/ a product of our choices.".   That was alone enough to get me to reflecting upon some of my own choices in dealing with things.

If this were the 80's, I would be making jokes like "Is this Real, or is this Memorex".  Another Quote from MistressScarlet "You don't know her, and what happens online is... a reality subject to different rules.".   I'm simply going to take what I can learn from everything, learn from it and grow.   I'm rather spoiled in Real Time face to face interactions, without all the long distance issue and hiding out behind keyboards going click click click.   Firemuse really added a lot of food for thought for what it's like on a subs end.   From comments from others, it appears that both Dom/mes and sub alike go through this painful process at one time being online.

While I myself did not play "Mystery Girl",  that's the one I pulled the Hand Grenade pin on.  Not the one that blocked me.  Had to make clarification so nobody is confused here.  I was very honest with "Mystery Girl" and I really did enjoy great conversation with her.  Still non the less I did pull that pin, to make life easier for both her and I.  In retrospect, I believe I placed too much "real time" emphasis on things here in Cyberspace.  I find myself, questioning and backing the fuck up in regards to how serious to treat everything online.   SexyReds comment "This happens all the time online, one of the hazards of trying to meet people this way."  I can fully relate to on both sides of the coin.

Yes, both sides of the coin.  I asked for input on both ends here.  From those that have been stood up and those that have done the standing up.  I find myself guily of standing up a great friendship (with Mystery Girl) because of placing too much unwarrented emotional emphasis on this online thing.

I'm sharing everything with you guys, so that you know what a big help you have been.  I thank all of you very much. I started out this day questioning anothers action and asking Why?  Now I end this day, questioning one of my own actions.  I am not perfect and I do have my own set of Quirks.  I hope there is something of value that another person reading this post may find. I'm certain I am not the first person, to be faced questioning things like this.

From time to time, I can be a real smart ass.  I love to laugh and joke around.  Yes, I'm still a twisted perv like the rest of you. There is a very human side I try to share in my posts as well.   Things both good and not so good.  I'm sharing all these things with you guys, so you truely know what I've gained from your insights and helpful comments.  Thank you again. It really does mean a lot to me.




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