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veronicaboundcd -> Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 11:26:55 AM)

I constantly get letters from male submissives, which state that they are into forced fenminization. The thing that I question is, "Is it really forced, if they actually want it to be done to them?"  In my opinion, forced fem is something which someone might do to a sub who had no interest in the topic. I'm just curious as to Other's opinions on this topic.
                      .......Yours, Veronica




cowbellsub -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 11:36:40 AM)

for me it would be more of a humiliation thing... im not into being a crossdresser or being feminine...but the idea of being forced  is def a turn on for me...and if my mistress is enjoying it, it makes it even better.  i guess it could aslo be seen as a roleplay thing, where the male would be pretending he wasnt into it at all.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 12:56:06 PM)

They want "it" and they want it bad,just a little part in their brain that says if i am "force"  not because i want to...then its ok..bounty




MzMia -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:02:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaboundcd

I constantly get letters from male submissives, which state that they are into forced fenminization. The thing that I question is, "Is it really forced, if they actually want it to be done to them?"  In my opinion, forced fem is something which someone might do to a sub who had no interest in the topic. I'm just curious as to Other's opinions on this topic.
                     .......Yours, Veronica


It does not sound like it is forced to me, do they also asked to be forced bi?
LMAO




Cuckme4Life -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:14:22 PM)

Seems to be a matter of "forced"  or FORCED... I wonder if push come to shove,, would someone who fantasizes of forced "anything" actually panic if their fantasy started to become a reality.  Alyways thought the magazine "Forced Womanhood" was pretty damn sexy myself.. Interesting concept,,  kidnapped, forced onto hormones, forced into servicing a Mistresses men visitors, changed into a complete TS while held captive in some way by a Domme.   Curious, does that practice really exist or are 100% of the stories in the popular magazine "fake" ?????????  




veronicaboundcd -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:19:51 PM)

Yes, forced bisexual activities are also a big part of their requests.




LadyPact -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:21:18 PM)

This goes back to that term "forced" that I dislike so much.  That word is used in the wrong context way too many times.  There is either a hidden desire for an activity or there isn't.  Obviously, if it is being brought up by the sub, they have an interest in it already. 
 
Personally, I have no interest in feminizing male subs.  When CD's contact Me, I tell them frankly that I am not interested.  I want My boys to be boys.  I don't find female attire sexy on a man at all.  It's rather a turn off for Me while it is a turn on and comfort level for them.  Makes it a bad match from the start. 




MzMia -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:21:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaboundcd

Yes, forced bisexual activities are also a big part of their requests.


I KNEW it!




veronicaboundcd -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:32:17 PM)

I've never really encountered anyone who was actually forced into a situation as depicted in "Forced Womanhood". I agree with You that it was a great magazine, and certainly spawned many a fantasy for me, but I think for the most part it was just that ....fantasy.
A while back, My Mistress was contacted by someone who wanted a fantasy like those depicted in that magazine, brought to reality. He said his dream was to be taken as a male slave, and held in slavery, slowly being transformed into a shemale slave, with nothing to his name ...to be totally owned. He supposedly was a successful person, and was willing to turn over everything he owned to a Dominant who would let him live his dream. Both Mistress and I corresponded a bit with him, until the point where he found out that we actually were real people, who could possibly bring this all to reality .... then he just simply disappeared.  We knew that this was probably a case of a fantasy gone wild, and never intended to take anything from him, all along, and sure enough, when push came to shove ...he vannished !!!
  I think there probably are cases where this type of thing has happened, but the whole process probably was concentual from the start.




Unrepentant1 -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:42:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaboundcd

I constantly get letters from male submissives, which state that they are into forced fenminization. The thing that I question is, "Is it really forced, if they actually want it to be done to them?"  In my opinion, forced fem is something which someone might do to a sub who had no interest in the topic. I'm just curious as to Other's opinions on this topic.
                     .......Yours, Veronica



It would have to be forced on me with a gun to my head! I may be sub but I am still a man, lol.




Cuckme4Life -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 3:46:31 PM)

Someone disappears off Collarme after seeing fantasy might end up reality?  NO WAY!!!  LMAO!!  happens every friggin' day actually no matter what the fantasy vs reality equation is. Be curious to know just how many fakes are on here that really would carry out their secret desires if they were truly faced with them and they had no option to back out ( such as disappear like so many do)




lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 4:20:47 PM)

i love being feminized for me it was forced the first time when i didnt consent to it well not realy kinda got drunk and after some friends got me drunk then they dressed me up




ineedotk -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/18/2007 11:06:04 PM)

The more general idea behind this thread shows up here periodically.  That idea is if a sub desires something, anything, is that something being "forced" onto him?  In reality, if we don't want to do something, we won't.  And if we don't want a certain thing done to us, we won't allow it.  Unless, of course, there is a perceived equal exchange taking place.  A sub will do an unwanted thing or allow something unwanted done to him if he believes he will get a desired thing in return.  Otherwise he wouldn't participate.  Likewise, a Domme will "reward" a sub if he accepts an undesired act from her.  This type situation always leads back to two questions: 1) Is the sub really submitting?, and 2) Just exactly which one of the two (Domme/sub) is truley in control?

A: 1) If a sub either really likes what he is "submitting" to, or dislikes what he is submitting to but believes he will get a more desirable thing in exchange for the undesirable, then no real submission occurred, only an equal exchange.
A: 2) If both the Domme and the sub are getting what they want out of the D/s relationship, then reguardless of who it is that appears to be "in charge" at face value, you still have equal exchange occurring - each is getting what he or she ultimately wants. It's no different than if you went to the store to buy a loaf of bread - you got your bread and the store owner got his money.  Done deal, equal exchange, everyone's happy.

I always say, you only have true control and submission in slavery, the illegal kind.




cloudboy -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 8:35:22 AM)

The argument that there is no force in forced femimization parallels the argument that there is no domination in BDSM. Each claim is spurious.

In a BDSM context, "forced" means controlled without choice.

When a femdom withdraws choice from a slave or submissive (or a sub gives up choice to a femdom) , he is being "forced" for BDSM purposes.

Where "forced feminization" is concerned, the "forced" element relates to pushing limits:

a. plucking eyebrows
b. painting nails
c. the when, how long, where and in what one is dressed
d. pick something
e. shaving

etc....

Hence forced feminization is all about force and being forced. In fact that's the heart of it. There would be no BDSM at all if sub's didn't cooperate and eagerly seek out Dommes, and such cooperation and enthusiasm doesn't mean BDSM lacks force or domination.

To wit: I truly believe in all of the following:

forced enemas
forced spankings
forced bondage
forced chastity
forced nudity

-------

in a BDSM context.......




iwearpanties -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 2:05:25 PM)

i agree with many of   diffrent things you all have written stated  here and yes as a panty wearing male it has crossed my mind alot too seek out forced but i know it realy can' t be if you in your heart and mind want it ....  i do know that each Mistress can put her own twist on this when she has you under power or in a session.   and i think deep inside each sub that seeks this dreams of it but dose it and can it realy happen who realy knows i ve never seen a poll or questionaire asking this .. as for my self i started wearing panties at age 7 or 8 now 42 and still hooked on them this fetish led me into the wrold of Dominations  and submissions as well as wearing more girly or females things but like you all have said the magazines realy do push your minds and fantasys alot i know for me it was  femDom magazine with Mistreses with sub male who crossdressed pictures and ads for others seeking to be owned or Mistreses seeking sissys/subs....   in close please dont flame me here but i hope this dose open other eyes as to the minds of what some sub/ panty boys seek and want would like froma Mistress ..   incloses may i ask the Mistreses and any others that care too resond   the diffrent between a sissy and a submisves panty wearing / cd ????????  thnak you for allowing me to be open here




iwearpanties -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 2:09:29 PM)

i did for get too mention i dont pass as a female nor seek too and if you passed me on the street you never know i was wearing panties  or other items garter n hose  a bra  for me i like being allmale and wearing am i sick o or just a fetish   freak




LadyPact -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 2:52:48 PM)

This is very much one of those cases where one of My favorite phrases comes into play.  Not everyone is for everybody else, but for some, it's a perfect match.  There is nothing wrong with any particular fetish (with the exception of harming innocent by-standers to satisfy it... another topic completely) and most likely, you'll find someone that shares it. 
 
I hold absolutely nothing against CD's at any level.  Well, ok, some of them make better looking women than I do, and that is just irritating *laughs*.  I just know that it is not a good match for Me.  I do put some stock into appearance, and I know that My sub should understand that I want him to look a certain way that will please Me.  Yes, I agree that under-garments are not seen in public view, but when undressing My boys, I know what I want to find there *wink*.




pantysniffer777 -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 6:38:15 PM)

i am a panty wearing sissy slave  i jus luiv th efel of silky panties and stockings they bring ou th esissy in me




DawnFire -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 10:41:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

The argument that there is no force in forced femimization parallels the argument that there is no domination in BDSM. Each claim is spurious.

In a BDSM context, "forced" means controlled without choice.

When a femdom withdraws choice from a slave or submissive (or a sub gives up choice to a femdom) , he is being "forced" for BDSM purposes.

Where "forced feminization" is concerned, the "forced" element relates to pushing limits:

a. plucking eyebrows
b. painting nails
c. the when, how long, where and in what one is dressed
d. pick something
e. shaving

etc....

Hence forced feminization is all about force and being forced. In fact that's the heart of it. There would be no BDSM at all if sub's didn't cooperate and eagerly seek out Dommes, and such cooperation and enthusiasm doesn't mean BDSM lacks force or domination.



Yeah, I'm with you on this one, "forced" has it's own meaning in it's own context.




spiritd1 -> RE: Forced Feminization (3/19/2007 11:19:21 PM)

I think that forced is the wrong word for it as they are asking to be feminized. For the dictionary says that forced is to do something against ones will. They should be asking to be taught to be feminine rather than forced.  I am one who would love to be taken under a womans control and taught to be feminine, I have wanted this all my life and think of it everyday.  I would welcome any woman out there that would be willing to help me to write and I will write back, I am real and hope that they would be also. 
                                                   Thank You,
                                                     Ashley




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