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LadyAnnabelleLee -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 2:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura See that's what Im talking about. Yes there are masculine subs but when comes to play time it's like they all WANT to be sissified - the whole stockings, corsset, heels crap! I mean you don't have to be girly to be a sub do you?!!! Err... A guy in panties does NOTHING for me! Just pointing this out... You're a trans switch. head tilt Don't you find this entire thread ironic? No offense meant, your pictures are lovely but uh... Isn't that the pot calling the kettle ebony???

viperess -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 2:05:23 PM)
Greetings, i got a good laugh reading this as i keep seeing "The Undertaker" from wrestling...i would so not call him a sissy slave ....but in rl he is a slave.

MissDiscipline -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 2:10:59 PM)
I am in total agreement with you,. I love them big ,tall and strong. I enjoy watching the internal/external conflict of submission in such big - Manly -men. in addition- the uglier they look as women- it is so much more humiliating- I love it. An dit doesnt matter to me if they are not sissies- As my sub- they are if I say they are. Aaawww that was mean....

sjacket -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 2:21:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAnnabelleLee quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura See that's what Im talking about. Yes there are masculine subs but when comes to play time it's like they all WANT to be sissified - the whole stockings, corsset, heels crap! I mean you don't have to be girly to be a sub do you?!!! Err... A guy in panties does NOTHING for me! Just pointing this out... You're a trans switch. head tilt Don't you find this entire thread ironic? No offense meant, your pictures are lovely but uh... Isn't that the pot calling the kettle ebony??? Now that's funny! I just read the OP's profile too.... Now I think I am offended.

Misstoyou -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 5:54:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura ...Yes there are masculine subs but when comes to play time it's like they all WANT to be sissified - the whole stockings, corsset, heels crap! ... Without going into possibly why (waves at LadyAnnabelleLee) while this may be your experience, you just have to trust us that it's not the experience of every Domme here. [:)]

BadJezebel -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 7:03:06 PM)
hmm

BadJezebel -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 7:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAnnabelleLee quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura See that's what Im talking about. Yes there are masculine subs but when comes to play time it's like they all WANT to be sissified - the whole stockings, corsset, heels crap! I mean you don't have to be girly to be a sub do you?!!! Err... A guy in panties does NOTHING for me! Just pointing this out... You're a trans switch. head tilt Don't you find this entire thread ironic? No offense meant, your pictures are lovely but uh... Isn't that the pot calling the kettle ebony??? OMG!!!! This is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you're right! On Black Sakura's profile it says: Actively Seeking: Dominant Men Male-Dom Couples Online Romance UNREAL! [:D]

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 7:45:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BadJezebel OMG!!!! This is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you're right! On Black Sakura's profile it says: Actively Seeking: Dominant Men Male-Dom Couples Online Romance While I totally get the irony of a TS getting all huffy over the lack of masculine male subs around, I'm not sure why looking for men and online romance is unreal? There's a difference between reality allowing for amusement, and just being catty.

BlackSakura -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 7:55:52 PM)
Umm, ok. I don't know why the attack all of a sudden. Yes, I am seeking out a Dom, which I believe I have found, so that I can be properly trained. First, He's going to train me as a slave, and then as a mistress. Of course this is all in talk at the moment. I feel I should know what it's like as slave in order to be the best Mistress I can be. This is why I labeled myself as a switch. I personally am not looking for a sub. This post was just a question, one in which I certainly had answered! As for, "Isn't that the pot calling the kettle ebony" what is that supposed to mean?

LadyAnnabelleLee -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 8:49:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura Umm, ok. I don't know why the attack all of a sudden. Yes, I am seeking out a Dom, which I believe I have found, so that I can be properly trained. First, He's going to train me as a slave, and then as a mistress. Of course this is all in talk at the moment. I feel I should know what it's like as slave in order to be the best Mistress I can be. This is why I labeled myself as a switch. I personally am not looking for a sub. This post was just a question, one in which I certainly had answered! As for, "Isn't that the pot calling the kettle ebony" what is that supposed to mean? Hello there lil' dark cherry blossom! (BlackSakura) You are a transvestite, you identify as one in your profile and it clearly shows in your pictures. Which as stated prior I have no issue with, they are lovely. I even wrote you a message stating such. The thing that I personally find ironic is that you're writing a post complaining about male subs wanting to be sissified/CD-ers. Or rather that there are no masculine submissives and they're all girly men. You yourself identify as a switch which means occassionally (I am to assume) you are on the bottom. And you are also a transvestite. (Yay you! Seriously though.) So that would make you the object of your annoyance in some cases. I merely find it ironic. Believe me, m'dear if I was getting catty you'd know. I play nice with others unless they don't reciprocate. Sincerely, Lady Annabelle Lee

BlackSakura -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/19/2007 10:31:39 PM)
Lady Annabelle Lee,I'm sorry for mistaking your post. The last thing I want to do is be catty. But I must correct you, I am not a transvestite. I am a transsexual. There is a huge world of difference. "Transvestism is literally the practice of cross-dressing, wearing the clothing of the opposite sex, and transvestite literally refers to a person who cross-dresses. However, the word has often had additional connotations." "Most transsexual men and women desire to establish a permanent social role as a member of the gender with which they identify. Many transsexual people also desire various types of medical alterations to their bodies. These physical alterations are collectively referred to as sex reassignment therapy and often include hormones and sex reassignment surgery. The entire process of switching from one physical and social gender presentation to the other is often referred to as transition, and usually takes several years. The transition process can be highly traumatic and may involve the person being off work for a long period of time."

BadJezebel -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/20/2007 2:55:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: BadJezebel OMG!!!! This is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you're right! On Black Sakura's profile it says: Actively Seeking: Dominant Men Male-Dom Couples Online Romance While I totally get the irony of a TS getting all huffy over the lack of masculine male subs around, I'm not sure why looking for men and online romance is unreal? There's a difference between reality allowing for amusement, and just being catty. Catty? NO!!!!!!! That's why I put the smiley after the "unreal" frankly, I find it curious and kinda funny. c'mon, try not to assume tones, this is chat. Using icons, such as a smiley are meant to be descriptive of attitude.

slavezero -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/20/2007 3:30:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura Are there many male subs/slaves that would described as masculine, a "man's man" if you will? i would definately class myself as masculine, and a man's man!

BeachMystress -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/20/2007 4:49:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura First, He's going to train me as a slave, and then as a mistress. I am not sure why you are having him train you as a slave and then a mistress. There is no rule that you must do it that way. (This is the third time I've heard it this week - and this week is what, three days old- that Dominants need to be submissives first. I wonder what has been touting that lately.) If you wish to be a Dominant, find someone to mentor you rather than to serve. Only do the service first if that is what is needed in your heart. You may be seeing more of your share of CD applicants because you are transgendered. Men into dressing may feel because of that, that you'll understand them and their urges. I have been dealing with submissive men for years. Prior to advertising for a domestic, I ran into few crossdressers. I suspect because my profile, when I was seeking, mentioned that I didn't find crossdressing to be BDSM. To me, it is playing barbies with life size dolls. And no, my husband has no desire to put on any form of women's clothing. He does when I order him to wear panties to work so he is reminded of me every time the lace chafes. Other than that bit of whimsy on my part, neither of us have the desire to cross dress him. (Though I have painted both his finger and toe nails to match mine when going to a party. It had nothing to do with feminizing and everything to do with mildly embarrassing him.)

Unrepentant1 -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/20/2007 1:21:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Like was said, it takes all types. I am one of those Domme's who has a preference for wanting Her boys to be boys. CD's just don't appeal to Me. For others, it seems to be their particular interest. Just like in the vanilla world, there are always different things that appeal to different people. It's ok to ask questions. That's how we learn things. Yes and you like your boys to be taken by boys too! lol. As it happens I am a totally masculine sub, who would have nightmares just thinking about cross dressing etc.

LadyAnnabelleLee -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/20/2007 4:26:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackSakura Lady Annabelle Lee,I'm sorry for mistaking your post. The last thing I want to do is be catty. But I must correct you, I am not a transvestite. I am a transsexual. There is a huge world of difference. ... (cut to save space) Hello again BlackSakura! Funny we keep running into each other. [:D] I apologise for the mistake, and I assure you its all collarmes fault. Damn that lack of trans specific labels! (It's a joke. Please tell me you're at least chuckling.) Thank you for correcting it. Now to speak to the " I am not sure why you are having him train you as a slave and then a mistress." point. I am a dominant female with submissive tendencies towards certain types. I even have an alternate sub profile on here for those specific interactions. Now in -my- mind I am NOT a switch, and I don't like being labeled such. However, I feel that one learns best by being on the receiving end first. To understand the mental aspects that run through a bottoms mind is to better know how to anticipate (if possible) and use that knowledge to further the interaction between the two of you. My 6 cents. I'm glad this thread has maintained its fairly mature conversational bend. It makes for interesting perspective. Sincerely, Lady Annabelle Lee

CuteIrishM4F -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/22/2007 7:03:36 AM)
Hi all, I am definately a masculine type. I think theres more of a challenge in getting one such as me to submit, but once it is earned, it really is worthwhile! A.

dicipline2 -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/22/2007 1:51:19 PM)
Well, it always seems to me as if the Dommes are the only ones who really understand male submission, which is a shame. I hear these stereotypes all the time, "If you are a male sub, does that means you like to wear panties and play with barbies?"[:@] Ummmm no. I am pretty masculine in my manner. I hunt, fish, and love to do all those manly things. As a matter of fact, one of my passions is guns. To put it another way, you would have no idea I was a sub from just looking at me. In my mind, the cross dressing thing doesnt really work to humiliate me because if you consider your place to be at a womans feet, how does dressing like your boss degrade your ego? Or is imitation simply the highest form of flattery? lol. Thats why cross dressing isnt really a fetish of mine. If the idea is merely to wear revealing clothing, there are plenty of clothes for men that will have you red in the face. lol.

mixielicous -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/22/2007 1:54:43 PM)
fast reply, i just had my first "outing" if you will, and there were TONS of muscley men... i mean there was even this mega jacked group that i have hard time believing were Doms [i think they were all gay hehehe] and all the men i saw with Dommes [this particular night] were all quite masculine.

dicipline2 -> RE: Masculine male subs? (3/22/2007 1:58:33 PM)
yeah, your going to find that out. These stereotypes of an unfeminine Domme and a sissy male sub are just that, stereotypes. I dont mean to trash anyone, but most of this crap comes from the devout M/f groups who want to desparage the other side of BDSM.

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