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Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/19/2007 7:51:58 PM

openmindedslave

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Okay, let me try to explain here first what I am trying to say about members on collarme .
I recently was looking at a list of new members to collarme with pictures because of a conversation I was having with a Mistress friend who had great trouble in finding slaves who were seeking a LTR. On that same search alot of Mistresses are seeking only female subs /slaves. My question is..is this a growing trend for Mistresses to not want to have a male submission or has it always been very popular and I am just starting to pay attention to the interest by Mistresses here?

And if the interest is increasing in looking for female submission only, does it have something to do with the quality of males out here?

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/19/2007 8:02:00 PM

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I don't know who's collecting data on your query. lol Personally, I'm not looking as I've found my male submissives, so I have no profile at the moment and am outside of your sampling profile. (Just a gentle reminder about drawing conclusions ...)

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/19/2007 8:46:28 PM

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Without doing statistical analysis, it makes sense that it is easy to get a male submissive and once you have a good one, it would be nice to get a female submissive too. A nice pidgeon pair :)

I do not see many female submissives looking for a Mistress, so male Dominantss are obviously in hotter demand than us

In my experience the "lesbian" Mistresses have a strange need to tell men that they are lesbian....and only lesbian. And go on and on about their hot lesbianism.

My lesbian friends actually feel no need to befriend (much less titillate) men over the internet. They advertise on pink boards, not collarme or alt

I suspect lots of Mistresses say they only want women because being unattainable makes them sexier. And many submisisves want their Domme to be bi and want a sister sub. Its a good advertising angle to look for women. You can always find men and its better to pick out the ones that post here in Ask a Mistress than answer a million email from a million idiots :).

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/19/2007 9:17:00 PM

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yes we are

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/19/2007 10:01:54 PM

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As a new person to collar me, and bisexual, I've just found that female subs that want to be with a Mistress are just harder to come by. Not that men are any less desirable, just more plentiful.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 5:06:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: DawnFire

As a new person to collar me, and bisexual, I've just found that female subs that want to be with a Mistress are just harder to come by. Not that men are any less desirable, just more plentiful.

I would have to agree with this. I currently am in a LTR with my male sub, but I have seriously thought about having a female submissive to play with as well. Most that I found do not want to play as a threesome, they want a strictly one on one relationship and I can respect that. It is just I would want for all 3 of us to play together sometimes.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 5:24:14 AM

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Hi OMS

Aside from the genuine cases of women having such profiles, have you thought at all about the allegedly high number of het males here pretending to be females, I wonder, and thus wanting contact only with female submissives, as an explanation for the high incidence?

I'd say that has more to do with the quantity of males out there, than the quality, and their corresponding desperation for contact with any female.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 5:32:50 AM

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And yes, it could also have to do with the quality of males on this site.

You'd really have to do your own scientific research to draw a real conclusion...but this is a free site which doesn't do much to screen out undesirables (however one chooses to define that) - so there you are.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 5:37:28 AM

openmindedslave

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Lady ellens comments on an issue I just don't get..and I do see it on profiles often enought that it must happen enought to comment on it...but guys pretending to be females???? Why? I mean, you are already lying about yourself from the begining so theres no future..You might hurt the people your contacting who think your someone else? I just don't get it.

Sorry to take this post in another direction.. And to make it clear,I am asking the question about the number of Mistresses seeking females as to discover if this is a common trend out here and if its a growing trend due to what conditions...
thank you

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 5:39:13 AM

Morghan

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There are lots and lots and lots of male subs on this site and most other lifestyle sites. Finding one who genuinely wants and is prepared for a LTR has proven a pretty big challenge for me as a female Dominant. The 'net has made it easier to do one's thrill seeking, to get a rush from the idea then go back to mundania..So you might be seeing a dilution of the sincere men on this and other boards. The same applies to Dominants. I get asked constantly if I'm a pro, and I'm not! But apparently when you go looking as a sub male for a Domme, you get a crazy number of prodomme profiles. Dilution is an inevitable product of popularity.

Morghan

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 6:20:48 AM

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If it is a trend, it makes perfect sense on a site like this. Women, it seems, want a long-term relationship with a devoted male submissive and the overwhelming majority of men want "instant gratification". This is a clash of idealogy. My only data to support this is the journal entries written by women on here. I've also spoken with several Dommes over the years and that seems to be their number one complaint...along with disrespect towards them, juvenile behavior, and a total lack of conversational skills including grammar.

Female submissives, being women, probably want the same type of commitment so the trend would be to gravitate to each other. This is just an observation I developed from reading a great many profiles as well.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 6:50:31 AM

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Well, there is a small segment of men who are seeking LTR as well but it's as hard for us to find as it is for the women seeking the same thing as well. Making a connection can be really hard sometimes. I'm anything but a "do me" or instant gratification kind of guy, but quite often I find myself being contacted by women who are either at the opposite end of the country or already married and seeking a submissive. I'm constantly being told by others to "settle" for what I can get because there's so many male submissives and so few female dominants. I've spent a great deal of my adult life trying to become a quality submissive, so why is it that it's immediately expected of me that I should settle for pretty much anyone that possibly shows an interest, because that's the paradigm that's being presented to most of us. And the rest of the male submissive population (the male dom one as well, sometimes) feeds this irrationality by leg humping any woman who comes along advocating a femdom mentality.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 7:49:48 AM

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Femdoms are about males serving them.
If you are looking for a Domme, that is the way it works.
I have a nice male slave whom I am engaged to be married. We are in a long term relationship, but he serves more like a female submissive would.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:03:44 AM

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openmindedslave,

I'm afraid you're more likely to be confused, battered and bloody by this thread...or maybe that's just my experience so far...

Lady Ellen is talking abt a segment of the CM population of men who are seeking instant gratification through instant chat...they present themselves as female, many times to attract male subs and sometimes to attract female subs. I've heard of more instances of the former rather than the latter, tho.

But this speaks to the issue of the quality of some males on this site. I am not talking abt the numbers b/c I don't have the stats. I can only suggest that since this is a free site that does not screen it's membership that anyone who can do some basic reading and writing can get a profile on here...including minors...so, that being the case, there's likely to be all manner of human being on this site - from genuine seekers to mere spammers (the dregs of society).

Hope that helps a bit.

MNN

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:41:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSCD

...but he serves more like a female submissive would.

..........how????

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:54:17 AM

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From where I sit there seem to be more dominant women looking for male submissives/slaves.

I also do not really see a shortage of female submissive/slaves looking for dominant women, then again I am not really actively on the hunt either. I can only go by the profiles I troll when I get the urge.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 9:04:26 AM

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quote:

LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

From where I sit there seem to be more dominant women looking for male submissives/slaves.

wow.....totally the opposite of my experience. but then i'm sure timing, being in the right place at the right time, and it being possible to know someO/one for a long time and not know T/they have the interests Y/you seek all play to both views.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:04:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

Okay, let me try to explain here first what I am trying to say about members on collarme .
I recently was looking at a list of new members to collarme with pictures because of a conversation I was having with a Mistress friend who had great trouble in finding slaves who were seeking a LTR. On that same search alot of Mistresses are seeking only female subs /slaves. My question is..is this a growing trend for Mistresses to not want to have a male submission or has it always been very popular and I am just starting to pay attention to the interest by Mistresses here?

And if the interest is increasing in looking for female submission only, does it have something to do with the quality of males out here?

I hope the board will forgive Me for not reading all of the responses. If I echo similar sentiments, please excuse the duplication.

Being as One who doesn't look for female subs at all, it is really hard for Me to judge. Constantly, I am told that there is some vast number of male subs out there, but I hear from very few of them. I do understand that many male subs are not interested in FemDomme couples, so I'm sure that explains a great portion of it.

Still, I would like to find one who might be a close enough match that at least lives within the state (or neighboring state within reason). So, yes, from My perspective, there is a small pool of quality male subs out there.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:20:42 PM

openmindedslave

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So is the lack of quality in submission is forcing Mistresses to expand the potential market with females. It would seem to me that being a Mistress or a dom allows for more expression of interest and possiable more experiences. In a sad truth that has been discuseed here more than once , it seems that many are not giving up on males for submission, but simply are opening the door to both sexs as long as their quality.

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RE: Are males just not as importain as they once were? - 3/20/2007 8:36:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

So is the lack of quality in submission is forcing Mistresses to expand the potential market with females. It would seem to me that being a Mistress or a dom allows for more expression of interest and possiable more experiences. In a sad truth that has been discuseed here more than once , it seems that many are not giving up on males for submission, but simply are opening the door to both sexs as long as their quality.

I hope that I am understanding what you are getting at here. For lack of a better term, I think you need to be more...well, open-minded and not try to draw conclusions that are not necessarily there. I think it's fair to say that some Mistresses prefer male subs, that others prefer female subs and others still who enjoy both. I don't think that a Domme who ordinarily prefers a male sub is going to necessarily (altho, she might) go looking for female subs just because she's having bad luck, or finding poor quality in male subs on this site. This site is not the end all and be all of the Lifestyle community and frankly anyone who is putting all their eggs in this basket is doing themselves a disservice. Not saying there isn't a lot of good to be found on CM, just that there is a whole world out there. Why limit oneself to one web service? Why limit oneself to the internet? Life is a bit more complex and varied and exciting than that.

MNN

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