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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:14:26 AM   
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Think I had something like 20 megs of ram.
Not on a 386... unless it was some mega server suped up special 386...
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So I imagine your color was CGA?
Commodore actually have impressive graphics with hardware accelerated sprites... so no.  As for the Kaypro, I can't speak, but I would also assume not, as it doesn't sound like a PC clone.
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running 64 megs of ram you must of been flying!
he said 64k...
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Finally I was able to find a storebought program...
the c64 actually had a LOT of games written for it... a whole bunch of them were AD&D games by TSR... but it had others too.  Wheel of fortune... wooo
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Wonder how much this box w/ 5.25 & 3.5 disks is worth?
I would assume nothing, but who knows.
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Quite cool...I STILL remember My DOS prompts and commands...how scarey is that?
not at all.  very practical knowledge.
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who needs a monitor when you have a teletype and paper tape punch
Now that's cool.
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On the VIC we played the text based turn games...I was never the greatest at those, but I'd try anyway.
I had a really cool one on my C64 that was written in basic -- not an adventure game, but you had to micromanage a town, and like it would tell you how many people died each year, and about plagues and crop harvesting and such.  badass.  On my TRS-80, before I ruined the disks (I was 11...) Donkey Kong was my favorite game...
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Also on the shelf here is a stack of about 13 IBM thinkpads 2465
* has no money to speak of * I'd love take one off your hands and even pay for shipping, hell, you can just wipe the drive, don't need no OS. :-) -- so long as the machine actually works.
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anyone remember wampus? or is that really too old
Hunt the Wumpus, holy shit, I used to play that! -- A while ago, I found a page that let you play hunt the wumpus online via a javascript application.
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I remember putting in a Hercules mono card...wow!
I took one out of a computer once -- when upgrading to EGA, the card and monitor were spare, so a friend got the benefit.  And I ended up with a herc card... no idea what I ever did with it.
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Never had the heart to part with them...still in the boxes waiting for resurection.
DOSBOX?
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Later the USB flash dongle came into play..which was rather interesting as when Upgrading to the Omega version it would flash the printer dongle useless and activate the USB...yes another back burner project...
Now that's copy protection.

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:18:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justplainjava

my first my son built for me and it the op was windows 98, the first one he own was a vic 20
take care and be safe
java


Taking computers apart and fixing them became the new hot rodder of tech.

Havig worked on My 68 650 Bonnivelle Triumph and 69 check pick em up I se to have..it seemed the process was rather simular and logical.

Cracking open a case and pulling cards was an easy transition.

Demanding of My slave...My computer....for My artwork I use to need more and more...just as in real life...so I began building them also and continue to do so.

I just found a Northwood with a SV266M mobo (motherboard) and 256 ram in the dumpster. (yes specialty dumpster diving of particualr places) the hard drive was yanked but I believe it might have an old AMD Duron cpu....

Looking for another MSI K7N2GM-V motherboard....sort of like the unrated lil hot rod of vintage boards....

Get those old systems open and tech kids how to replace them by hotrodding 'em!

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:23:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressMaamNH

My first computer was a Commodore 64 that I ordered through the Sears and Roebuck catalog store.   It had the big ass actually "floppy" floppy disc, and a green monitor.  To get it to actually DO anything, you had to program it yourself. I remember the owners manual that came with it..it had several programs you could duplicate...so I spent an entire day once typing in completely nonsensical letters and numbers, and I created a program that showed planets and moons floating across the screen for about 15 seconds! Whoohoo..time well spent lol  Finally I was able to find a storebought program..."The Legacy of the Ancients" OMG, I LOVED it....My dad and I used to play it together..he'd go into the towns and gamble and win a whole bunch of money that I could then go out and buy supplies with to fight the evil monsters. It was a great time :)



Another mail order bride happy customer!

I remember the green monocolor (mono meaning one) and yes it was a thinking persons deal to program computers to do something

That was when code was efficent and not bloated with nonsense

I remember the horoscope compaibility programs and how bio feed back were popular.

Not familair with that game I did do the diablo, and such to see how they were.

Now I believe there are places that people pay for status rank and powers in the online games for real $$$$

I remember telling someone how I would take here Quest game and reverse engineer it to have a BDSM type...now I see they are rather mutiple in source.

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:24:11 AM   
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I remeber pouring over mags that you could copy the code to do something like make it speak in computer sounds or something as equally world breaking.
OOOH, I had a dos program that could make the pc speaker talk on my 286... it was soo cool, I wrote a talking alarm clock in qbasic that shelled to the program, it would not only beep like a bitch at me, but it would tell me why it was beeping -- I left this running for about 3 weeks straight, and my alarms didn't go off anymore... I looked at the computer and the screen was filled with garbage, it never booted again... just came on and beeped... the ram probably got mis-seated or something... either that or the processor burnt out...

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you must of had some money to buy that 2400 baud...gee...
It was a hand me down -- mind you, I got my 8088 when 386s were avilable... and my 286 lasted until just before the downfall of the 486 DX4 (pretty much the last 486...)

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I went thru so many 486s it wasn't funny...
There was a wide range to go thru... for a while, you'd think instead of going up to 586 that they were just going to keep increasing the DX multiplier, and the speed... I never saw one in the days of the 486, but much later, in a pile of boards, I found a 486 DX4 with a 120 MHz chip -- not one of those chip addon things... the chip was actually labeled to be clocked at 120 MHz... (the first 486s were around 20-25 MHz IIRC) ... It was really the first chip that had a multiplier, and the first to need a heat sink (though the heat sink wasn't a realized issue until late in it's life, so they burnt out, and acted up a lot...)

A hardware geek friend told me that the millitary for a while was using 486 chips on some missile guidance systems, that were clocked to ~ 800 Mhz -- Though it's possible, as you'd only have to impliment the instruction set, and use small enough transistors, I find it more likely that they'd use a more standard RISC chip; but it's still an interesting story.



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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:25:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FLFunTop

Let's see here jr. high - highschool pdp-8 basic, assembly and fortran with an asr 33,  who needs a monitor when you have a teletype and paper tape punch
College DEC System 10 that had also Algol (Pascal not invented yet) ADDS monitor and printer terminal
Then a VAX  still Adds monitors.
1st cmputer Job IBM 1130 64 K doughnut memory 1st computer to have Fortan no monitor, DG Nova also 64 K and a techtronix monitor,  pc was an Osbourn(Portable and my aching back)


Ooooooo....you sound so hardcore.....

So where has all this past comouter stuff brought you to present day forte'?

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:29:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elorin

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69
Yes I am glad you mentioned that you were younf..love your pics btw....
I remember so many plugging in the TV as a monitor
I remember we had an  Atari from Sears to play pong
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Glad you like the pics...it's about time to add more, I need to resize some recent photos.
I learned to program in BASIC (not VisualBasic!) on the Vic and the Commodore. We had the Atari, with many games (I'm the youngest of three kids, we played it a LOT) including Warlords, PacMan, Yars Revenge, and multiple others (I remember what the screens looked like but not the names of the games).

On the VIC we played the text based turn games...I was never the greatest at those, but I'd try anyway.

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Yes I must admit I like the one of you one the table and with the open blouse and skirt..

I was of the pinball machine gang where a quarter could last all night over beer and blues and women

I remember playing so much defender at one point for hours where ever I looked I saw the "x" s

Dig dug, packman, space invaders (like the Pretenders' song intro)...yes I fell addicted too...

Ross
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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:32:04 AM   
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the hard drive was yanked but I believe it might have an old AMD Duron cpu....
my main computer uses the original socket A... it's was running on a Duron forever, I just upgraded to an athlon xp -- though the board isn't supposed to recognize it... it underclocks the shit out of it, ironically, going to slow is just as damaging to a cpu as going too fast... (e.g. higher core speed * lower multiplier == going slower)

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I remember the green monocolor
I've got a 9" one on my shelf... it still works, I hope.  It uses the phono plug system (yeah I used it at times on my atari 800, commodores and actually ... the phono plug interface hasn't changed for a long time... every nintendo ever made will plug into it, I could plug a dvd player into it... or my xbox... though it's a bad idea: I played n64 on it for a while (no tv) and the score in the corner burnt into the screen from an hour of play, luckily it faded back out... but I'd be scared to ruin the thing...)


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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:40:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FLFunTop

anyone remember wampus? or is that really too old

Nope...not I

what was it?

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:41:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: justplainjava

my first husband and i could not afford a real monitor for my son's first computer so he had to use an old black and white tv

Hooked up the rf addapters into them and bingo

Wish I had a large 42" to do the same thing now

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:43:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChainedExistence

ahhhhh...ditto machines....I can still remember the smell  and warmth of the paper when they were "hot off the press." The kids used to love to sniff them, ( it was probably toxic, but heck we were riding bikes with no helmets then too!). Of course, if you were running a lot of copies, you had purple fingers!


Yes but you are thinking of the powered version aren't you?

This one you had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to get it do do what you wanted.

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:46:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elorin

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69
Does anyone else remember the orginal Ditto machines?

You wrote on paper that had a cabon like page inderneath and it was then attached to a drum and ink was fed to it and you cranked a handle and it feed paper thru making duplictes of what you wanted.

Newsletters were often made this way.

I still have My 256 grayscal handheld scanner thhat I was going to go out into the world and scan textures for My art.

Anybody else get caught up in the font collections addictions?

Having to collect as many as you can and then loading them all on the system so it crawled to a s-l-o-w wobble?

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I remember dittos, though I never used the machines...I remember a teacher coming in with the warm purple pages, fresh off the machine.

I still have a bunch of fonts, actually, use them for the graphics I create.

~E


Love to see links...you may send them if you wish in email...

Have an old program called fontfinder...

Seems there were so many fonts used that to decipher the obscure ones they had a program to measure the serif and sanserrif

I still collect fonts...and do graphics in many walks of life...

Any free sites you recommend?

Ross
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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 5:54:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MyMasterStephen

I bought a Sinclair ZX80 when I was an apprentice in the Navy.  Programming that 1k of memory was a bitch, and put me off computers for a long time.  So long, in fact, that my second computer is the one I'm using now, bought a little less than four years ago.  Sir Clive is responsible for me spending over 20 years in the computer wilderness.


Seems a lost discipline now adays as the coding has gottem sloppier and there seem to be easy ways out that aren't as efficient.

Companies are now more inclined to release BEATS with the guise of and upgrade and using the public to debugg when they shouldn't be sold.

I just got a free downloadable copy of Bryce 5 which is cool as sin.

It seems the trend in the Uk computer mags is to make a deal with the companies to make older versions available of the OLDER versions of the software...FULL versions...with the enticement of upgrading...NOT TIME TRIALS either...

It works for Me.

So why is the UK ahead of the US when it comes to software and computer mags?

All My favorite mags come from the UK

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 6:00:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BrainSlugs83

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Think I had something like 20 megs of ram.
Not on a 386... unless it was some mega server suped up special 386...

guess you were right...thik it was  1 meg mods...go figure....

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So I imagine your color was CGA?
Commodore actually have impressive graphics with hardware accelerated sprites... so no.  As for the Kaypro, I can't speak, but I would also assume not, as it doesn't sound like a PC clone.
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running 64 megs of ram you must of been flying!
he said 64k...
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Finally I was able to find a storebought program...
the c64 actually had a LOT of games written for it... a whole bunch of them were AD&D games by TSR... but it had others too.  Wheel of fortune... wooo

I actually have an original non computer D&D game given to Me....never got into it

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Wonder how much this box w/ 5.25 & 3.5 disks is worth?
I would assume nothing, but who knows.
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Quite cool...I STILL remember My DOS prompts and commands...how scarey is that?
not at all.  very practical knowledge.
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who needs a monitor when you have a teletype and paper tape punch
Now that's cool.
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On the VIC we played the text based turn games...I was never the greatest at those, but I'd try anyway.
I had a really cool one on my C64 that was written in basic -- not an adventure game, but you had to micromanage a town, and like it would tell you how many people died each year, and about plagues and crop harvesting and such.  badass.  On my TRS-80, before I ruined the disks (I was 11...) Donkey Kong was my favorite game...

Yes but I fell in favor of more graphic oriented ones..the RPG seemed to have it's following.
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Also on the shelf here is a stack of about 13 IBM thinkpads 2465
* has no money to speak of * I'd love take one off your hands and even pay for shipping, hell, you can just wipe the drive, don't need no OS. :-) -- so long as the machine actually works.
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anyone remember wampus? or is that really too old
Hunt the Wumpus, holy shit, I used to play that! -- A while ago, I found a page that let you play hunt the wumpus online via a javascript application.
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I remember putting in a Hercules mono card...wow!
I took one out of a computer once -- when upgrading to EGA, the card and monitor were spare, so a friend got the benefit.  And I ended up with a herc card... no idea what I ever did with it.
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Never had the heart to part with them...still in the boxes waiting for resurection.
DOSBOX?

I have read articles on how to run old PC games ion newer systems
 
Having seen what a AMD system can make a old dos game look like a sped up cartoon ....

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Later the USB flash dongle came into play..which was rather interesting as when Upgrading to the Omega version it would flash the printer dongle useless and activate the USB...yes another back burner project...
Now that's copy protection.

For Me that is personal knowledge...not asking for endoresement or infringement...yes I still buy and  read 2006 when I see it on the stands


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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 6:03:42 AM   
SirDiscipliner69


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Status: offline 		I remember using pencil lead to "draw" connections on cpus to over drive them.

Need to check and see if the old amd chip will work in the mobo


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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 6:07:28 AM   
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Now there are so many hacks for xboxes and such it isn't funny

Read where tom tom knew there were trojans and viruses installed yet did not tell people buying them untli antivirus software showed them up when connected via usb to a desktop

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 7:09:20 AM   
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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 8:28:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

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Atari 800xl


Was that the one with the great graphics and had a cult following or was there another one that started with "A"?

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Amiga was better known for it's graphics...my 2nd computer was an Amiga 500....and by then I had a shiny new state of the art 2400 baud modem.  Yeah baby, yeah!

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 9:38:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

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Altair.. eight switches and a button.  I bought it through an advert in Analog


Whow....do you still have it?

I remember seeing adds in magizines about buying and building kits for the latest power hungry hobbist.

Nice to see you around again...

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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 9:48:53 AM   
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RE: What was your first computer? - 3/25/2007 11:53:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lonlyrossInNeed

a crapy old machontosh


Why crappy?

What type?

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