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RE: Tribute? - 4/12/2005 11:58:55 PM   
MsMacComb


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Status: offline 		Heres a bit of reality (might put some twists in some panties, but oh well).
There are thousands of companies online that are "Content Brokers and Distributors". Simply put people buy photo sets and/or clips through them, slap a website together, put up some "Money Slave" or "Financial Domination" text and are in business. The photos you see may not be who owns the site. It could be a 80 year old grandma, some guy or part of a conglomerate of companies that deal in adult business. Same goes for phone sex. Who you see or talk to might not be what you think you are paying for.
For probably the same amount of money, there are fetish webcam sites where you at least have live interaction with the lady you are desiring and expecting to. And NO, I do not own webcam sites, never have and never will, in case someone thinks this is a plug.


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RE: Tribute? - 4/13/2005 5:37:34 AM   
Oumae


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Status: offline 		I agree with LadyAngelika on this... personally I prefer a "tribute" to be sponateous and not asked for as it is the thought which counts to me. A tribute doesnt have to cost.
If others are into it I see no harm in it, as adults people can decide if they want to get involved in it or not.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/13/2005 5:40:54 AM   
EmeraldSlave2


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ORIGINAL: ProScatman

The only Dommes' I notice asking for tribute are the Pro Dommes'. The last one I asked about it replied that from seldom to never does someone come to Her asking what they could do to please Her? And the fact that some get burned out from 'Lack of Devotion"!

No, they are just the only ones CALLING it "tribute."

If you look at things a certain way, anything a submissive does for a dominant's pleasure that is not related to some life necessity could be considered a "tribute" to the dominant.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/14/2005 4:11:02 PM   
HayaSierra


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Status: offline 		Greetings,

I would likely not be too keen on tributes from someone who is not in my household, or who is not in the immediate process of meeting me Face to Face for some reason or other. (Whether it be a first meeting in a public place, or much later gettogether more privately). Those of my household do give tributes, but they do so at their own free will, and by whatever means they choose. And no -- it is not neccessarely money. I had one of mine compose me some music, make a disk of his music and some favorites he thought I might like, and airmailed the disk to me. It must have been the best tribute I had ever gotten, it was also my first one, and not solicited by me. As the person giving it to me was well familiar with me by that time it made it extra special. So it's Quality i'm after, not quantity. .

Now I will not pass judgement on anyone else who wishes gifts and tributes up front, but this way is my preference.



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RE: Tribute? - 4/25/2005 1:48:35 PM   
MsIce


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Status: offline 		Over the years I have come upon many submissives. On line they say "I just want to please you". The trueism is that they wish to please themselves.
I have always been quite open regarding the scene and my thoughts on it. I personally dont see anything wrong with submissives paying for email domination, provided the Dominant is willing to make the time committment to explore submission with the submissive. Now Im not talking about the two minute wonder here, but the sensibleness and thoughtfulness that is required to firstly get to know someone and then tailor domination that is suitable for that situation.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/27/2005 12:18:40 AM   
Osiris2028


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Status: offline 		I am late to this posting but it caught my attention because it is an issue that I was wondering about. I am very new to this site, joined it yesterday as a matter of fact. When I first started browsing through the profiles, I was amazed at the number of DOMs that seemed like all they were interested in was monetary tribute. I think it was almost half of the profiles I read if not more. It was a little disconcerting for me because I thought this site was more about finding like minded people and not about finding a pay day. True, to each his own. If someone likes the feeling of giving all of their money to someone, then I guess more power to the both of you, but at the same time it is kind of a let down to see many profiles that say, "If you want me to take you seriously you're better send me tribute! If you don't have a big bank account then don't bother!"

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RE: Tribute? - 4/27/2005 2:26:37 AM   
MsMacComb


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Status: offline 		Osiris,
Yes but see those people are NOT Dommes. They are gold diggers who saw an opportunity to make a buck. Is that bad? Not necessarily in my opinion. Its their choice and the choice of the people that support them. No one is forced to do anything (well that might come later, lol).
I am a lifestyle domme who also happens to own a couple of pay websites. But my attitude is that the money that I make from them either goes to pay for bandwidth or to charity. I dont need the money so if people want to join fine, if not, then dont.
But I am curious how some people think this should be any different than say a singles bar. There you have guys looking for sex and women looking for a sugar daddy. He buys drinks and pays for things so he might "get some", she might "give some" if he buys enough drinks and promises more.

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RE: Tribute? - 4/30/2005 9:08:19 PM   
Asianatrix


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Status: offline 		It's all about perception, isn't it?

It's a societal stigma to pay for any services of or relating to sex. Both legally and insofar as mainstream opinions.

Calling it a tribute makes it less like paying a fee to get yer rocks off.

There is also the fact that many (not all) professional dom/mes, especially independents, have put A LOT of money, time and education in what they do. From purchasing equipment, outfits, attending training classes; medical training, psychology classes, BDSM training and events like Shibaricon, Thunder in the Mountains, Black Rose, etc. Paying rent on playspace...that is not an inexpensive endeavor.

I'm not saying that anyone goes into this blind, not knowing the expenses involved. Nor do I think that anyone who goes into pro-dom/ming should expect to make a raft of bucks.

But like any profession, there is more to it than just picking up equipment and hanging your sign saying you're a pro.

I, like a lot of lifestyle dommes, perform BDSM both personally and professionally.

"They are gold diggers who saw an opportunity to make a buck." The very phrasing makes this a shitty judgement statement. But it's "not bad".

You own paysites. You're doing the same thing. No matter what your perception of what you are doing may be. You are making money off of the people who are too afraid to go out there and get what they want for fear of censure. People are 'tributing' you as well. But of course what you are doing is different from what anyone else trying to make a living is doing, you unique individual you. You're no less opportunistic than anyone else.

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RE: Tribute? - 5/1/2005 12:31:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Men paying for sex? What a novel idea.

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RE: Tribute? - 5/2/2005 12:48:01 AM   
eroticservitude


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RE: Tribute? - 5/2/2005 10:58:35 PM   
UtopianRanger


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Onceburned wrote >>>I admit the emotions of some subs regarding tribute surprises me. I simply haven't noticed a lot of tribute demands. But after thinking about it, I realized that I look for older dommes (40+) and perhaps they are not the ones involved.


Amen Brother. I'm here for bold, beautiful, Dominant women, not gold diggers.

I follow a similar path with respect to older dominant women, but to take it one step further : My mail controls are purposefully set to automatically route any mail received from anyone under thirty directly to the junk box - Never to be seen by me. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule , but I find that women over 30 are a lot more serious and sure about their wants and desires.

No offense to any of the smart and beautiful women here as I've read many of your knowledgeable and inspiring post's, but when I look at some of these web sites that talk about ''Internet Money slaves'' or ''Financial blackmail'' I roll on the floor and bust up, because the first thing that comes to me is that old adage : ''A fool and his money are soon separated'' And remember, anyone, whether a man or women, who solicits money from you just to reply to your e-mail is probably a bigger a crook than Ken Lay.



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RE: Tribute? - 5/3/2005 4:04:59 AM   
LadyAngelika


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I'm here for bold, beautiful, Dominant women, not gold diggers.


Then focus your attention on the bold, beautiful, Dominant women, not gold diggers. Simple as that.

The golddiggers are allowed to be here too.

In fact, I have a friend of mine who has a fetish for golddiggers. He's actually trying to increase his net worth to attract more of them. I don't understand his kink, but I accept it.

Live and let live.

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RE: Tribute? - 5/3/2005 4:54:02 AM   
UtopianRanger


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The golddiggers are allowed to be here too.



Agreed. And you know what?... I make it a point to never ever ever argue with a Dominant Lady that has long honey blonde hair, clear blue eyes and a strong Rubenesque figure, because you always end up with the short end of the stick.


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RE: Tribute? - 5/3/2005 4:59:30 AM   
LadyAngelika


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RE: Tribute? - 5/3/2005 6:55:19 AM   
diaperedbaby


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Status: offline 		I would have to have that "connection" before I would even think of pulling out the checkbook.
When that time comes and I meet "the right situation" I would rather use my finances for that purpose, rather than spreading it around for desperate measures.


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RE: Tribute? - 5/3/2005 7:53:10 AM   
JDESPO


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Hello all. This is okay, in my opinion, if the Mistress or Master is Professional and providing a service.
BUT, I believe it is pretty lame for a domme to demand such claiming that they are NOT Pro and they are just into financial domination...or its the only way for them to weed out the fakes..Give me a break!
The only way for you to weed out the fakes is to get money from people? especially those people who share your special interests? That is pathetic! They are being Dominated by Money! and I really don't think they have a leg to stand on saying they are truly a Domme. Their existence and relations are based on money and how much they can squeeze from a sub. Wow, real contribution to society...need more domme's like you here. lol.
Now, dont get me wrong, a Domme deserves all that the slave has to offer, but dont be so one way...it takes away from the beauty of the domme sub relationship. If you are a True Domme you will own much more than your subs money.
I needed to vent.
John

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