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Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 9:29:52 AM   
DominaSmartass


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Status: offline 		I would like some opinions or thoughts on this. What is the difference between having someone as your "collared girl"/"collared boy" vs. "collared sub"/"collared slave" ? I am not asking what the difference between the sub and slave are, mind you but what does it mean to you (if you are in this type of relationship) to collar someone as a boy/girl? Is it synonimous with slave or is the connotation completely different to you? And if so, what does it mean in your context? Thanks!

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 9:31:03 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Unfortunately your question really boils down to the difference between the two.

A collaring can mean anything you want it to mean with whoever you want it to be meaningful with..



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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 9:48:06 AM   
DominaSmartass


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Status: offline 		Well yes, I do get that. It's just that I would really be interested in hearing from people with personal experience that they defined as falling under those terms and what it meant to them. I often use examples from other people combined with my own ideas and experiences to form new ideas of things. So, just looking for real life personal anecdote type things here, not definitions.

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 9:55:12 AM   
bearincuffs


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Status: offline 		I had this same question a while back and asked my Master for his opinion He related that usually a Master has slaves and a Sir has boys, whch this is common in the gay male community. There are exceptions to this and regarding the collar aspect, as LA stated it is what you place meaning to it.

In my own context and having a Master, I personally believe I am his slave and this works for our relationship. I do wear a collar and for me it gives me a sense of pride knowing I am his. The collar also is a symbol reflecting to everyone that I belong to someone, much in the same way a wedding ring indicates they are "spoken" for.

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 10:33:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen boy/girl used as both an identity of young energy as well as synonymns for slave. I call my girl that because she has young energy AND she's my slave. I've called another by the title slave because he feels old...but I've also said that he's a good boy.

What do YOU want it to mean?

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 3:30:24 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Once upon a time all S types were called slave, as time went on the term seemed not to fit everyone very well so they started playing with terms and new definitions.(at least that's the way I have heard it from the various "Old Ropes" I have spoken to about it. In the gay leather community part of those canges was the Daddy/boy relationship. Gay men in the 50's and 60's had few if any masuculine gay role models, those that were gay and masculine were closeted most often. So the sexual modeling we usually get from our parents was not exactly transferable for them. The Daddy boy relationship partly procvided a way for young gay leahermen to learn about how gay relationships worked, and provided a role model for how to be a masculine gay man. The model served also as a means to "grow into Leather" to start as a leather boy and develop into a leather man.


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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 3:39:40 PM   
raevnn


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Status: offline 		I am my Daddy's enslaved little girl, complete with collar.

It's a symbol of his ownership, like a wedding ring is a symbol of marriage, I think.

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 3:50:53 PM   
gypsygrl


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Status: offline 		Oh dear.  I didn't know this was an issue.  I like the term girl because I thought it was a convienent way to avoid the sub vs. slave debate which gives me a headache.  Until recently, girl referred to status and didn't have much relationship to chronological/developmental age.  So it seems to work.

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 4:28:34 PM   
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OK.. maybe I will just add a different twist...
 
I am - in my relationship - the submissive half.  He calls me his girl and that is something we love and feel really comfortable with.  Now my partner, who is dominant within our relationship is my Boy. It is something that a (very) few people seem to take issue with - at least that is what I have found.  But truth is, he is my Boy and there really isn't a damn thing that anyone can do to change that, because he wants it that way and is comfortable that I call him that.  Doesn't make him any less the dominant in our relationship and it is his and consequently our choice to be exactly how we feel about each other.
 

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 7:28:45 PM   
DominaSmartass


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Status: offline 		Thanks for sharing that, dark, I find it quite interesting.



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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/26/2007 7:35:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		To us it means I am his slave who happens to be female, hence - girl.  It's one of the many things he calls me.

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RE: Collaring a girl/boy as opposed to sub/slave - 3/27/2007 7:55:29 AM   
Mustardseed


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Status: offline 		Daddy and I are eying a collaring in about a year and a half, when he's slated to finish school (he starts next month). I'm his girl and his submissive. I have issues about being called a slave, so even though he wants one that title is likely going to someone else some day.

Daddy looks at a collar as a wedding ring. Since that's how it's being addressed, and I've been married before, I decided to look at the entire relationship as an engagement and have us put time and effort towards getting the points in life we'd want to be before taking on a "spouse." That's going to take us both a while, but given my experiences that's what I'd want before tying my life to another's in such a way.

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