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MasterFred77 -> Dom's and sub's (4/11/2005 4:41:58 PM)
Ladies: I know you get tons of mail from supposed Dom's, I am sure most are very serious in their quest to find their ideal mate. I have been here for a few weeks and would like to say this. Please don't let the select few jerks/assholes/wannabees/players spoil your search here. If a Dom who doesn't even know you sends you mail and Insists you belong/have to submit/get on your knees bitch anything like that, BLOCK them tell tem to "Fuck Off" or just ignore them. I speak for a select group of Dom's who are real and true and do wish to find a mate here. I would suggest that anyoone who exhorts His power over you without ever meeting you is a "Fake" and should be treated as such. They are probably "Mr. Whipple, Stroking their flaccid Penis and pounding their chests". We are all simple "Mortals" here and as far as I know "Jesus Christ" has yet to join this community. These select few make things harder for all of U/us. Let's stand up and fight them and say "NO". I also realize there are some ladies here who look for fantasy fulfillment, please state this so "no one gets hurt". MasterFred

darkinshadows -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/11/2005 5:26:25 PM)
quote: We are all simple "Mortals" here and as far as I know "Jesus Christ" has yet to join this community. Mortal? Hey, speak for yourself! fluffs up her huge pair of... wings On a side note... as for Jesus joining the community, He's (IMO) One of the finest examples of a switch I know. And as for God... wow... Dominant or what? And before I get flammed [;)]... God loves me, so there...[:-] Peace and Love

ShiftedJewel -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/11/2005 6:23:11 PM)
I would think the same thing should be said the the males submissives as well. Some of us really do respect you and appreciate the efforts you take. Jewel

MasterFred77 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/11/2005 6:42:30 PM)
Jewel" Yes some of us are looking, but let's not make this a Gangfight to find our matches. SirFred

happypervert -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/11/2005 7:00:05 PM)
quote: I speak for a select group of Dom's Really? Were you elected grand poobah of this select secret society, or are you just the self-appointed spokesman? It's kinda funny -- usually posts such as yours come in response to a thread started by someone complaining about the trolls; since you say you've been here a couple of weeks I'm surprised you haven't seen one because they are very common. So I'm really not sure whether I should admire your initiative for sharing your thoughts before anyone bothered to ask, or if I should think you're a stooge for giving all this "brilliant" advice which is nothing more than the obvious answers that you would have seen if you had bothered to lurk longer or look back a little bit in the archives.

BobcatsLilMinx -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 4:47:49 AM)
"Grand Poobah" - I like it! giggling I think that about said all I wanted to say but couldn't think how to put it... MasterFred, subs really aren't stupid. We know there are genuine people out there, and we know how to handle the losers. If you've only been here a couple of weeks, well, there are subs here handling their inboxes quite efficiently since waaaay before you came along. Having said that, well, maybe some new sub will read your post and feel encouraged... (is God a Dom? I think he bit off more than he can chew with us, if thats the case... someone want to recommend him a good course in organisation skills?) (and God loves me too..... but Mary is infinitely hotter) giggles Minx

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 5:43:17 AM)
It's a very typical pattern. Person goes online, starts spending lots of time online because they are connecting and opening up to people online in a way that they never felt comfortable before offline. Person stumbles into bdsm, renewed sense of "belonging" and being able to express fantasies and ideas they've long had. Person is joyous and amazed and look at all the "new" things to discover! Person gets overwhelmed, they want to be collared, they want to be owned, they want to be nurtured and coddled and forced to "do nasty things" and get that shivery wet feeling with a whisper in their ear. They would do anything (except THAT...but make me do THAT anyway...but I'll kick your ass if you make me do THAT...) Person gets manipulated by some dork who knows just enough to reel their emotions in, but not sustain for long or create a real security. Or person discovers the "politics" of the scene, whether it's other jealous subs, competing doms, overexaggerated experience, whatever. Person begins to be confused, they are doing the right things? They are following the rules they learned? Why isn't reality going like it was? Why aren't they always happy? Person gets angry and frustrated- this is no better than it was before! It's all just as much lies and crap! This is hard! Person gets fed up. I'm leaving, so there! This isn't for me after all. Person gets reeled back in- ok so it IS who I am, but forget all that crap before. If the person is smart, they learn how to deal with bdsm just like they do in real life (if they ever learned how to deal with real life to begin with). If they aren't, they continue their patterns.

Padriag -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 5:56:02 AM)
Have to agree completely Emerald, I've seen it happen over and over and over. You see someone new an you try to break that cycle so they don't fall into it, but so often there's just nothing you can do but give advice and hope they listen.... an be there afterwards when they don't.

MasterFred77 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 7:23:33 AM)
happypervert: I certainly am no spokesman for anyone other than Myself. And if I in some way offended you, I do apologize. But I thought this was called the Forum and a P/person couls voice their oppinion. I was just stating facts, and actually I owe You NO answers. As for Myself I take this site seriously, perhaps this is not the way you look at it. MasterFred

darkinshadows -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 12:43:48 PM)
I believe that what happy may have been trying to do (tongue in cheek, possibly) was to inform you(as you are new to the sites posting) that there is a 'search' feature and you will find that this has been discussed before in many postings. But that isn't to say that a fresh input is not appriciated! Some of the posters here have been around for a while. If you spend any length of time here, you will gain a 'cyber reality' insight into the posters. Some of us write lengthy verse... some are informative... others playful... or have a wicked sense of humour. Some... (looks at self in mirror) has (apparently to some) a horrid taste in font, but thats life! Everyone is different. Taking time to get to know people, even in a written forum such of this, takes great patience and wisdom. Knowing the difference between personal attacks, to genuine observation takes time... On such a note, I would like to harken to shifted... there are female sub/slaves/bottoms/kajiras here. But there are male ones also who are equally vunerable. In fact, some of the females may be stronger in essence and personality than some of the men(therefore less vunerable)! Whilst your kind post of a knight rushing to advise maidens is indeed commendable, maybe more positive posts on wiitwd from yourself would be a way of us 'old regulars'... and the newer posters... to get to know you better, and understand where you are coming from and possibly... where you may be heading. Peace and Love P.S forgive me happy, if I have misinterpreted your response. I may assume too much, but then, that's better than Angel judging... [:D]

Archer -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 5:59:37 PM)
I belive the problem lyes in your choice of words here. quote: I speak for a select group of Dom's who are real and true and do wish to find a mate here. You did in fact speak for other people, you may not have intended to do so but your words plainly do just that. The problem also includes the use of REAL and TRUE the most overused words by people who are new. Real and True are so often misused by people intolleant of other people's format for D/s M/s relationships. You're not a REAL Dom nless you do this, You're not a true slave unless you do that. Two traps you would do well to note and avoid in the future. BTW If you post an idea you do in fact according to the customs of communications owe people an explination of what you ment, and said, unless you are not trying to communicate. In Leather Archer

MasterFred77 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 6:07:06 PM)
Well excuse me all to hell, I thought this was a forum, not judge and jury. Not to worry I won't post here anymore.

perverseangelic -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 6:29:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFred77 Well excuse me all to hell, I thought this was a forum, not judge and jury. Not to worry I won't post here anymore. Please don't see it as a personal attack. We often get...zelous...in our attempts at net-humour. Some things get talked up one side and down the other and becomes something to joke about.

MasterFred77 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 6:37:19 PM)
Thank you for your comment, you are a lady. But I see a lot of people wanting to "Bitch" about someone doing something they have a ll the right in the world to do. Probably all schoolyard bullies in their younger days. But they can be glad they never showed up at My schoolyard!!!!!!!! And if anyone would like My personal address, and they would like to come and see Me, just say so. "I Aim To Please"!!!

Archer -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/12/2005 8:45:46 PM)
Climb on down from the 17 hand horse for a second MasterFred. If you take pointing out a mistake you obviously made personally that's not anyone elses fault. Post all you like but if you're going to take a little advise from people who've been at this awhile as a personal attack then again no skin off my nose. And the Grand Gesture of inviting someone to come see you is complete ignorance. Stay or go matters not to me, You claimed you didn't do something and I pointed out that you did, complete with quote of your own words, If you find being called on your own words distastefull then perhaps you should consider them longer. The frst one was not inended as anything but advise from an outside observer. This one you cn take as personal since you went there first. In Leather Archer

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/13/2005 5:37:56 AM)
Hmm someone who knows how to measure a horse's height...that's pretty hot.

happypervert -> RE: Dom's and sub's (4/13/2005 9:59:39 AM)
quote: P.S forgive me happy, if I have misinterpreted your response. heh, you hardly need to be forgiven for being so nice and diplomatic that you put a positive spin on my smart-assed remarks, angel. So I'll thank you instead. Rather than suggesting the search feature, though, I was really trying to point out that it's a good idea to lurk a while and read back a way in the posts to get a feel for the place and personalities before posting. I recall lurking a month and reading back another month before deciding to run my mouth here; that's probably overkill, but I didn't think I had anything so brilliant to add that there was reason to rush in, and that it would be wiser to wait for an appropriate opportunity to jump in. That's very different than the approach of Fred and some others; although he claimed to have "been here for a few weeks", it was obvious he hadn't or else he would have seen at least one previous e-mail thread. Also, I noticed that with all the threads in these forums, Fred had nothing to say anywhere else; he only started two e-mail threads here in the Ask a Submissive" section. The first initially gave the appearance of soliciting comments about e-mail Manners though it was really just a thinly disguised "I think you all should send a polite reply to my notes" type of post we see so often. Then he started this thread without even pretending to ask for anyone else's ideas; it was simply the unsolicited "wisdom" of MasterFred. I figured he was just trolling trying to impress the gals, and so I poked fun of the most self-inflating line from a post full of them to see how he would respond. Of course, I expected that his response to me would reveal the sort of foolishness that Archer has since provoked him into expanding on. So that about sums up the intent of my response above. However, I will confess that I lied a bit -- I really wasn't considering the notion that he could be admired for his initiative. I just said that for fun and to try and make myself sound like less of an obnoxious bastard. By the way, I like your font -- it's stylish and has a character that seems to fit your writing style. However, if you ever change it to something really horrid like big pink block letters, then I'll probably have to deprive myself of the pleasure of reading your ideas because it will be overwhelmed by the torture of being assaulted by such a hideous font.

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